Active Plotlines

[Skytotem]

Alright let's make a list of what's going on, and needs to be resolved as time passes.

Current:
1. Sylvanas/Thassarian/Koltira

2. Gilneas/worgen presence

3. Neptulon

4. Garrosh/Thrall/Horde Leadership

5. Archbishop Benedictus/ maybe Rommath

6. Zandalar.

7. Magatha.

8. Moira

9. The pure black dragon egg

10. The details on Ysera's eyes (debatable/minor)


Overdue:

1. Turalyon / Alleria

2. Where Krol went.

3. Tyr

4. The Door Bael'gar guards in BRD

5. Whether sicco is alive or not. / Gnomeragan (Seriously)

6. The dark riders (I think they're forsaken)

[Slywyn]

That whole war thing going on.

[Garotar]

Night Elves dealing with mortality.

[Sarahmoo]

Don't forget Magatha Grimtotem.

[Soldrethar]

Velinde Starsong, her fate needs to be explained.

[Sonneillon]

-The "Family" reunion and Deathwing's defeat
-The rise of Nazjatar.
-The Hour of Twilight and the Oldgods downfall
-Nosdormu's Infinite flight and the alterted timelines
-Return of the Titans and the Resurrection of Sargeras
-The Burning Legion and Kil'jaden's inevitible revenge

[Revenant]

They are countless.

[Reyson]

Magni Bronzebeard and his family
The seemingly unstoppable Forsaken army

[Gurtogg_Bloodboil]

Velinde Starsong, her fate needs to be explained.

She died in a cave in Duskwood. You could interact with her ghost there since vanilla.

[Ma Caque Attaque]

Just some off the top of my head:

1) Ashenvale (Will the night elves go on the offensive and will the Horde build another big bomb)

2) Southern Barrens (Will the Alliance get the reinforcements that they desperately need or will the Horde offensive take them out)

3) The Grimetotem, to include Magetha.

4) The Defias Brotherhood and the homeless unrest against SW

5) The Gilneans curing the worgen in Duskwood. Are they successful and what happens tot he cured worgen?

6) The Forsaken Offensive in Lordaeron. How far will they go?

7) Moira and the Dark Irons. WIll they help or hinder the Alliance?

8) Gallywix and the reasons behind his return

9) Why Mia and Tess Greymane aren't in the game anymore

10) Who took over for Cho'gal?

11) The fate of the pure Black dragon egg

12) The reason why Ysera's eyes are opened

[Soldrethar]

Who was Magni Bronzebeard's wife?

[HalfElfDragon]

9) Why Mia and Tess Greymane aren't in the game anymore

I don't think there's a reason for this beyond Blizzard just not putting them anywhere.

12) The reason why Ysera's eyes are opened

I thought it was because everything has gone to shit at this point or something like that.

[Vil'rexin]

Corki. Who knows what captured him this time.

Seriously though, you could possibly count Tyr. Maybe.

[Gurtogg_Bloodboil]

10) Who took over for Cho'gal?

Benedictus.

[Revenant]

A list of what has been resolved would be far shorter.

[Saranus]

Have we seen the last of Cho'gall?

What will be the fates of the now-headless Air and Fire elementals and their respective planes?

Throne of the Tides had a few corrupted water elementals, but mostly naga and their allies. What became of what must've been a large number of water elementals that resided there? All summoned by mages?

Where is Deathwing/where will he be when we fight him?

Where is Magatha and what is she doing?

[Revenant]

Throne of the Tides had a few corrupted water elementals, but mostly naga and their allies. What became of what must've been a large number of water elementals that resided there? All summoned by mages?

I would assume that the naga enslaved or killed them all. That would have been answered in the raid/second 5-man/whatever, presumably.

I want to know what is up with Hydraxian Waterlords and the mysterious Tribunal of the Tides. And what is the deal with hydras? And krakens? And Ozumat? Bah.

We do see one free elemental there in the Thrall quest chain.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Into_Coaxing_Tides

Also, mage water elementals do not seem to be true elementals. More like water-golems.

http://www.wowpedia.org/The_Schools_of_Arcane_Magic_-_Conjuration

[Leviathon]

Velinde Starsong, her fate needs to be explained.

She died.

[Ma Caque Attaque]

Benedictus.

He leads the Twilight's Hammer now? Thought that he was just the side show, taking charge of the more spiritual side of the organization rather than control the organization itself.

[Skytotem]

Why or why not these things qualify...

Night Elves dealing with mortality.

This isn't really a current thing, this should have been settled in fucking vanilla. Blizzard still hasn't told us what even CHANGED. They've still got power over nature, the tree's freaking blessed by all but Noz, and we don't know what THAT does.

Blizz needs to talk, but this isn't current It's overdue.

That whole war thing going on.

This could go on forever.


Don't forget Magatha Grimtotem.

This qualifies.

-The "Family" reunion and Deathwing's defeat
-The rise of Nazjatar.
-The Hour of Twilight and the Oldgods downfall
-Nosdormu's Infinite flight and the alterted timelines
-Return of the Titans and the Resurrection of Sargeras
-The Burning Legion and Kil'jaden's inevitible revenge

1. Settled in Twilight of the Aspects.

2. Huh?

3. Hour of Twilight Qualifies.

4. Not sure where this falls.

5. Not current.

6. Again, not current.

Magni Bronzebeard and his family
The seemingly unstoppable Forsaken army and possibly

1. Magni qualifies. Moira/Dagran II qualifies.

2. I don't think you finished the thought, and Sylvanas had basically been covered.

Just some off the top of my head:

1) Ashenvale (Will the night elves go on the offensive and will the Horde build another big bomb)

2) Southern Barrens (Will the Alliance get the reinforcements that they desperately need or will the Horde offensive take them out)

3) The Grimetotem, to include Magetha.

4) The Defias Brotherhood and the homeless unrest against SW

5) The Gilneans curing the worgen in Duskwood. Are they successful and what happens tot he cured worgen?

6) The Forsaken Offensive in Lordaeron. How far will they go?

7) Moira and the Dark Irons. WIll they help or hinder the Alliance?

8) Gallywix and the reasons behind his return

9) Why Mia and Tess Greymane aren't in the game anymore

10) Who took over for Cho'gal?

11) The fate of the pure Black dragon egg

12) The reason why Ysera's eyes are opened

1-2-4-5: Not the idea of this thread, zone plotlines are a whole 'nother beast.

3-6-7 have been covered.

8-9 are more of a gameplay issue.

10 No reason to think it's not benedictus

11 and 12 qualify.

Blizzard said they would explain why and we never got a concrete answer to 12, again, Overdue.

Corki. Who knows what captured him this time.

Seriously though, you could possibly count Tyr. Maybe.

I'll count Tyr as overdue.

[ARM3481]

Night Elves dealing with mortality.

Honestly the whole "so this is death" angle that Darkshore tries to beat us over the head with through the dying NPC's doesn't make much sense anyway. The night elves are well acquainted with death, since the War of the Ancients, War of the Shifting Sands and War of the Satyr, then the Third War itself all resulted in a huge number of casualties among them.

So really, the whole mortality hangup is contrary to their established history. The night elves have always ended up getting large numbers of themselves killed despite being untouched by the ravages of time, so the idea that mortality is some kind of mysterious and alien thing to them seems kinda forced and contradictory.

Atop all that, the only night elf we've seen named as obsessing over losing their mortality was Fandral. So the lone representative of what's supposedly a race-side anxiety turned out to be an obsessive lunatic who resented the rest of his people anyway, and so is hardly indicative of the mentality one would expect among most night elves.

[AndyJP]

Yeah, they could always die, so it was only immortality in the sense that they couldn't age (and maybe couldn't get sick?)

I think it would be a big shock for Night Elves to start noticing that they are getting weaker and slower, having to come to terms that they are no longer in the prime of their lives as they were for all of their adulthood until the world tree was destroyed.

It sounds like Wolfheart is going to cover this issue, though. In the book's description is this: "An uneasiness creeps over the once-immortal night elves as the first of them fall victim to the infirmities of age."

[Aldrius]

I really do just think 'dealing with old age' is possibly one of the lamest things to make a big deal out of story-wise in the history of WarCraft... like... wow.

"Watch Orcs and humans fight to the death as they battle dragons, ogres, bandits and even DEMONS!... The undead are locked in combat with a new race of wily and cunning wolf men!! while the Night Elves deal with alzheimers and arthritis... STAY TUNNEEDD!"

[ARM3481]

The whole idea that some are already becoming infirm and soon to be passing on naturally seems pretty silly to me. They've basically always been immortal; the physiological passage of time's basically been halted since they first existed as a species, since they were made what they are by the proximity of the same Well of Eternity that also originally made them ageless. Are we to just to assume that some unseen internal clock was tacking on proportionate years behind the scenes so that once they lost their immortality the math would all line up and things would kick off as if they'd always been mortal so that the oldest would start croaking right away?

They're essentially an entire race of people in their physical twenties and younger, so really it seems like none of them should even be visibly aging at all for the next few hundred years, much less showing signs of becoming decrepit or actually dying of old age.

It really feels like they might be trying to take something that logically shouldn't be an immediate concern for a few hundred years yet and forcing urgency upon it to make it seem really relevant. Like they'll only get any steam from it if the night elves went from never aging to dying right now, and that kind of feels artificial and forced.

[Jiwat]

"Watch Orcs and humans fight to the death as they battle dragons, ogres, bandits and even DEMONS!... The undead are locked in combat with a new race of wily and cunning wolf men!! while the Night Elves deal with alzheimers and arthritis... STAY TUNNEEDD!"

Malfurion short story: Wait, where's my keys?, by Alan Smithee.

[AndyJP]

The whole idea that some are already becoming infirm and soon to be passing on naturally seems pretty silly to me. They've basically always been immortal; the physiological passage of time's basically been halted since they first existed as a species, since they were made what they are by the proximity of the same Well of Eternity that also originally made them ageless. Are we to just to assume that some unseen internal clock was tacking on proportionate years behind the scenes so that once they lost their immortality the math would all line up and things would kick off as if they'd always been mortal so that the oldest would start croaking right away?

They're essentially an entire race of people in their physical twenties and younger, so really it seems like none of them should even be visibly aging at all for the next few hundred years, much less showing signs of becoming decrepit or actually dying of old age.

It really feels like they might be trying to take something that logically shouldn't be an immediate concern for a few hundred years yet and forcing urgency upon it to make it seem really relevant. Like they'll only get any steam from it if the night elves went from never aging to dying right now, and that kind of feels artificial and forced.

The Night Elves wouldn't have all been the same age when they were given immortality, so perhaps it didn't de-age them and some of these night elves were just going to be old forever? *shrugs* Just have to wait and read the book I guess.

[ARM3481]

The Night Elves wouldn't have all been the same age when they were given immortality, so perhaps it didn't de-age them and some of these night elves were just going to be old forever? *shrugs* Just have to wait and read the book I guess.

That's just it, though. They were already immortal before the Sundering (the ageless part, anyway.) While the original history made it seem a bit longer, according to the WotA novels especially, they only went a few days at most without their immortality before it was reinstated via the World Tree.

So yeah, they weren't all born at the same time, but they'd all been frozen in time age-wise since maturity, which means even the oldest night elf alive never had a time where he was physically aging and the rest weren't, since as a race they were literally evolved by the very source of their original immortality.

[Omacron]

The whole idea that some are already becoming infirm and soon to be passing on naturally seems pretty silly to me. They've basically always been immortal; the physiological passage of time's basically been halted since they first existed as a species, since they were made what they are by the proximity of the same Well of Eternity that also originally made them ageless. Are we to just to assume that some unseen internal clock was tacking on proportionate years behind the scenes so that once they lost their immortality the math would all line up and things would kick off as if they'd always been mortal so that the oldest would start croaking right away?

They're essentially an entire race of people in their physical twenties and younger, so really it seems like none of them should even be visibly aging at all for the next few hundred years, much less showing signs of becoming decrepit or actually dying of old age.

It really feels like they might be trying to take something that logically shouldn't be an immediate concern for a few hundred years yet and forcing urgency upon it to make it seem really relevant. Like they'll only get any steam from it if the night elves went from never aging to dying right now, and that kind of feels artificial and forced.

Honestly, it sounds like something I would write, a nice piece of existential insight about the nature of life, mortality and ambition.

It just... doesn't have a place in a setting called "Warcraft". "Brew a cup of tea and ruminate on metaphysicscraft", maybe, but not "warcraft".

It's also not the concept of "dieing" that the night elves have trouble with inasmuch as the concept of "running out of time". Night elves can die, it has to be in a war. People going into a war expect to die. When you're immortal, you don't expect to keel over in your sleep. I can see the concept being pretty devastating, but on the other hand, something way too heavy and nuanced not only to do PROPERLY in Warcraft, but I can't think of any facet of gameplay that could or should reflect it. What I do hope is that now that the night elves can die from old age they start doing shit. Their society was tagnant for ten thousand years- that's about four thousand more years than human civilization has existed for in the real world. In about six thousand years humanity went from bronze tools to the internet. In ten thousand years the night elves did jack fucking diddly, because they had no reason to, they had no ambition nor desire to make their lives better. Well let's hope they do now. Let's see them put that ancient experience into actually building something.

[Ashendant]

Honestly, it sounds like something I would write, a nice piece of existential insight about the nature of life, mortality and ambition.

It just... doesn't have a place in a setting called "Warcraft". "Brew a cup of tea and ruminate on metaphysicscraft", maybe, but not "warcraft".

It's also not the concept of "dieing" that the night elves have trouble with inasmuch as the concept of "running out of time". Night elves can die, it has to be in a war. People going into a war expect to die. When you're immortal, you don't expect to keel over in your sleep. I can see the concept being pretty devastating, but on the other hand, something way too heavy and nuanced not only to do PROPERLY in Warcraft, but I can't think of any facet of gameplay that could or should reflect it. What I do hope is that now that the night elves can die from old age they start doing shit. Their society was tagnant for ten thousand years- that's about four thousand more years than human civilization has existed for in the real world. In about six thousand years humanity went from bronze tools to the internet. In ten thousand years the night elves did jack fucking diddly, because they had no reason to, they had no ambition nor desire to make their lives better. Well let's hope they do now. Let's see them put that ancient experience into actually building something.

I think some of the consequences are the highborne in the alliance

[Carnavorr]

Do we know whatever happened to Lilian Voss?

[Revenant]

Do we know whatever happened to Lilian Voss?

She burned some people in the Western Plaguelands. Besides that, no.

[Ma Caque Attaque]

I'd like to know if there is going to be anything more about Garrosh's reaction when the player presents him with the SI:7 badges and if there would be any fallout when Thrall returns.

[Skytotem]

Alright, old one here... what's the deal with Bael'gar's door in BRD?

WHAT'S DOWN THERE.

I know that the structure of the dungeon may/may not wind back to it to have a dead end on the other side, but I think that's more game mechanics.


Honestly I think it's like this...


1. Fire giants were down there, they left at some point in the past

2. It's a Titan facility and the Dark Irons needed the codes from somewhere under Gnomer to get in, hence their support of Sicco's usurpation.


Also:

Un'goro, what's going on there?


http://www.wowhead.com/item=50410

[Sarahmoo]

Alright, old one here... what's the deal with Bael'gar's door in BRD?

WHAT'S DOWN THERE.

I know that the structure of the dungeon may/may not wind back to it to have a dead end on the other side, but I think that's more game mechanics.


Honestly I think it's like this...


1. Fire giants were down there, they left at some point in the past

2. It's a Titan facility and the Dark Irons needed the codes from somewhere under Gnomer to get in, hence their support of Sicco's usurpation.


Also:

Un'goro, what's going on there?


http://www.wowhead.com/item=50410
There's a quest that deals with that door already, right? Was added in Cataclysm. A Goblin gives it to you at at the quest-hub beside the entrance. If I remember correctly, he speculated that it could be another half of the city or be probably nothing.

[Skytotem]

I did that quest, it's how I know about the door, it doesn't TELL YOU ANYTHING

Description
At one end of the Dark Iron Highway stands a massive gate much like the one that protects Shadowforge City on the opposite side. However, we have no idea what's behind it!

All we know is that it's heavily guarded by Anvilrage patrols and the molten giant Bael'gar. You simply must dispose of them and see if you can pry that gate open!

Just imagine what could lie behind it...there could be an entire other half of the city we never knew about! Or nothing! Who knows!

Though, it's probably something...
Completion
Darn it! I simply HAVE to know what's behind that gate! This could be the discovery that makes my career, you know!

Hmm....maybe a couple good explosions would do the trick...