The Warcraft Movie Protagonist

[Kerrah]

The main character of the Warcraft Movie has been described as "new" and "kick-ass". He will be on the Alliance side of things.

That reminds me of what they said about the WoW Comic.

Anyone else think this new hero is Varian Wrynn?

[Lon-ami]

Me. Probably, you're right.

[Kenzuki]

They said that he and the comic guy aren't the same person, so it can't be Varian.

[Timolas]

Which is a shame. We may have a Joe the Adventurer taking the lead.

Raises the question; who is the antagonist? A more familiar villain? Or Joe's father Alfred? Or his best friend who joined the forces of darkness, Paul, who he tries to liberate, and after an epic duel Paul realises his sins, is liberated, and dies of fatal injuries, but he dies a free man.

[Kerrah]

Well, since it'll be a war movie, and there really isn't anyone else to make war to except the Horde, we can expect the Horde to be the villains.

[Drz]

Would be wonderful it it was actually some female hero instead of cliché human warr/pala heroes and so on, or heck maybe evena pansy caster in robes! >:3

But yeah, luckily this movie will be focused on war rather than some adventure like LOTR. But maybe because of that, the story won't be very great either. ^^;

[Lon-ami]

They should make an story film, about the first war, for example.

These movie is only just another way to earn money, due to WoW's popularity.

[Kerrah]

They should make an story film, about the first war, for example.

These movie is only just another way to earn money, due to WoW's popularity.

Accourding to WoWwiki, they were originally going to make the movie about WC1, but then they decided that "The Warcraft Franchise has become famous from the MMO, not the RTSs."

Those morons.

[Aldrius]

That's clinically stupid.

[Drz]

They should make an story film, about the first war, for example.

These movie is only just another way to earn money, due to WoW's popularity.

Well i would rather want more current Warcraft movie, due to night elves, tauren, and all the cool more-unique races that some have never seen or heard of. WC1 would be way too much of an LOTR movie, WC2 would be fucking epic tho. =D

[Drirlake]

Well, since it'll be a war movie, and there really isn't anyone else to make war to except the Horde, we can expect the Horde to be the villains.

I am pleased.

[Omacron]

That's clinically stupid.

That's financially smart.


And WCI's story isn't enough to make a movie out of.

[Lon-ami]

Mix it with The Last Guardian and add more history to Doomhammer.

Done.

I wrote a script long ago... Didn't remember if post here.

[Aldrius]

That's financially smart.


And WCI's story isn't enough to make a movie out of.

Financially smart? It's about orcs and humans in Azeroth. What does that not have to do with World of WarCraft? People who care about the story enough to go see a movie aren't going to be bothered by the lack of night elves or Tauren.

And WarCraft's story has plenty of room for an involving and cool storyline... plus it would feature Stormwind very heavily.

[ARM3481]

We might be lucky if the thing bears any resemblance to WC by the time it's done. During the Doom movie's production id Software supposedly had one of their own keeping close contact with the movie's development, but in the end we got no demons (No Demons? NO DEMONS?! WHAT'S FRIGGIN' POINT OF EVEN MAKING THE DAMNED THING?!), and instead basically just another zombie-type "mankind shouldn't have tampered with genetics" story. Guess their liaison didn't much care about the content enough to try keeping it intact in the face of rampant "Hollywoodism".

Based on precedent with videogame movies, we'd best brace ourselves for anything from a passing connection to the games all the way to something fturistic in which the orcs are nature's genetically engineered revenge against mankind for our hubris. They'd just respond to ctiricism with the old "we think it retains the same feel and atmosphere of the game" line. :rolleyes: Atmosphere and feel are enough for some movies, but most great games live and die on making the player's involvement feel relevent, even if that involvement doesnt go further than self-preservation, and they translate better onto the silver screen when that sense is held onto and represented in the movie's characters. Oh, and we might have to forget about any sense of charactreization from the orcs. Hollywood isn't very good at "humanizing" villains on a grand scale. One or two semi-interesting orcs in command is one thing, but by-and-large they'll probably be reduced to Tolkein-style cannon-fodder, with the occasional dialogue between fights to make them look even stupider (maybe cockney accents or "Lennie from of Mice and Men-type speaking, creating the feel of dumb and easily fooled foot soldiers).

Moviemakers have a habit of dismissing out of hand whatever makes a videogame license interesting and assuming that they know better than those who made the franchise a smash hit in the first place.

I'm still crossing my fingers and hoping, but for it to work out, Blizz had better exercise more control over the movie's content than having a non-writer or non-developer drop by the sets every now and then to pretty much say "Wow that BFG looks cool! This is gonna be great!" :sweatdrop

[Kerrah]

The Super Mario Brothers Movie
The Street Fighter Movie
The DOOM Movie
The First DnD Movie

We do NOT want to add the Warcraft Movie to that list.

[Kenzuki]

That's clinically stupid.

In your opinion.

[Omacron]

The Super Mario Brothers Movie
The Street Fighter Movie
The DOOM Movie
The First DnD Movie

We do NOT want to add the Warcraft Movie to that list.

To be fair, Silent Hill was good, but only marginally connected to the games.



Wait, Uwe Boll isn't directing this, RIGHT?

[Kenzuki]

God this movie will probably suck.....

[ARM3481]

God this movie will probably suck.....

We'll just have to wait and see. If Blizz tells us they've got someone from their writing staff involved, that's one thing.

If they say someone from their management, financial, or PR departments is keeping an eye on things, they might as well send their janitor to do it for all the impact it'll have on the movie's creative process.

[Kenzuki]

We'll just have to wait and see. If Blizz tells us they've got someone from their writing staff involved, that's one thing.

If they say someone from their management, financial, or PR departments is keeping an eye on things, they might as well send their janitor to do it for all the impact it'll have on the movie's creative process.

It's Jeff Kaplin, he's going to make sure it stays true the the spirit of World of Warcraft. Bornakk is helping.

[Vicious]

God this movie will probably suck.....

Where´s the Kenzuki that only criticized Warcraft related stuff after they were released?

I miss you defending Warcraft man, not sure why but the place had a more friendly environment back then.

[Timolas]

Then the movie will end with everyone laughing, getting home in time for dinner and having learned a valuable lesson in morals.
Of course they'll have some shiny new bling bling to show off. Maybe one of the characters will finally settle his past demons and we realise he is actually really just soft inside. The villain will convert and realise the error of his ways, even if he ends up dying anyway.
Truly though, nobody will get hurt... except the villain. It's a film friendly for all kids as well after all. It needs to be that way since a large portion of the fanbase is under 13.

Or it might be a great film without any gaping cliches.

[Aldrius]

In your opinion.

Nope.

It's a fact.

[Kenzuki]

Where´s the Kenzuki that only criticized Warcraft related stuff after they were released?

I miss you defending Warcraft man, not sure why but the place had a more friendly environment back then.

Warcraft is dead now, all that remains is a big sucking hole where once beat a heart.

[Kenzuki]

Nope.

It's a fact.

Why are you the only one who can say that?

[Kerrah]

It is clinically stupid to make a movie about WoW instead of WC1.

[Aldrius]

Why are you the only one who can say that?

Because you have no grasp on irony.

[Lon-ami]

Oh, C'mon...

Intelligence isn't needed for explaining why WoW instead of O&H...

It's a film to earn money. Probably, nor the director nor anyone in the film know anything about Warcraft.

Only that it's a franchise which earns a lot of money.

Basically, it would be a videogame film. Not a Warcraft film. Without lore.

[Nephalim]

Guys if they were going to make a movie of the games themselves, they would have to make a movie of all of them, and they're too long and involved. The best way to have a Warcraft movie would be to have an original standalone story, which is what they're doing.

I'm not going to claim that this movie won't suck, but so far, they're making fairly good decisions, and Legendary's gotten a fairly reliable track record, particularly when it comes to adapting other media to the screen. I have far from lost hope for this particular enterprise.

[Kerrah]

Human ambassador: "This is slaughter! This is madness!"
Saurfang: "Madness? THIS IS DUROTAR!" *kicks human in an endless well*

[Aldrius]

I don't think it's gonna suck. And I have no problem with a stand-alone story...

I just think it's dumb to say 'well we're doing it because World of WarCraft will make us more money. Hurhur.'

[Lon-ami]

Arthas: I'm your father!
Leeroy Jenkins: Oh noes!

[Drirlake]

Guys if they were going to make a movie of the games themselves, they would have to make a movie of all of them, and they're too long and involved. The best way to have a Warcraft movie would be to have an original standalone story, which is what they're doing.

I'm not going to claim that this movie won't suck, but so far, they're making fairly good decisions, and Legendary's gotten a fairly reliable track record, particularly when it comes to adapting other media to the screen. I have far from lost hope for this particular enterprise.

SPOILERS!! WARNING READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!




















The movie will feature a family being sucked up into wow, with the nerd boy being the hero and the older sister falling for some Night elf/Blood Elf, and they will all learn a valuable lesson about friendship and will be back home before dinner. Yup, thats the main plot.

[Kenzuki]

I don't think it's gonna suck. And I have no problem with a stand-alone story...

I just think it's dumb to say 'well we're doing it because World of WarCraft will make us more money. Hurhur.'

I'll take that bet. The only redeemeble thing about it will be that it won't be canon due to the whole freaken timeline compression or whatever the hell Metzen was talking about.

[ARM3481]

[SIZE="3"]The movie will feature a family being sucked up into wow, with the nerd boy being the hero and the older sister falling for some Night elf/Blood Elf, and they will all learn a valuable lesson about friendship and will be back home before dinner. Yup, thats the main plot.

Now, now, it wouldn't be complete without a few Azerothians slipping through the other way. Family-friendly hilarity ensues as an Orc, Tauren and Troll try to make sense of this wacky modern world of ours!

Then the last thing we see is the three of them watching TV and eating junk food as things are set right and they vanish back into Azeroth.

[Timolas]

Now, now, it wouldn't be complete without a few Azerothians slipping through the other way. Family-friendly hilarity ensues as an Orc, Tauren and Troll try to make sense of this wacky modern world of ours!

Then the last thing we see is the three of them watching TV and eating junk food as things are set right and they vanish back into Azeroth.

Hell that's so lame for a canon story, but it would make a rather funny fanfic.

[Kenzuki]

The look on the tauren's face when he finds out what a BigMac is made out of...priceless.

[Timolas]

Of course if it was a tad more realistic it would end with all three of them face down, dead, in a disection lab surrounded by scientists.

[Kenzuki]

Of course if it was a tad more realistic it would end with all three of them face down, dead, in a disection lab surrounded by scientists.

You're WRONG TIM! They would be hanging out with George W. Bush in the White House for his last year in office playing the PS3 and eating pizza!

[Kerrah]

In the end we find out that Warchief Blackhand is actually the real leader of America, and is leading them to world conquest!

[Drirlake]

In the end we find out that Warchief Blackhand is actually the real leader of America, and is leading them to world conquest!

That would be epic.

[Timolas]

With Rice'Dan to guide him.

[Kenzuki]

No way, everyone knows Dick Chaney is the one pulling the strings. Bush is just a figure head. That one guy figured it out see and was going to confront Chaney about it on that hunting trip......we all know how that ended.

Bush isn't evil, he's just being used by the REAL villan!

[Drirlake]

I would laugh pretty fucking hard if it turns out to be another Teenage drama movie, where an orc/troll/what ever is sucked into our world only to help the nerd teenager gain popularity and win the girl he wants at school, now that would be priceless

[Timolas]

I would laugh pretty fucking hard if it turns out to be another Teenage drama movie, where an orc/troll/what ever is sucked into our world only to help the nerd teenager gain popularity and win the girl he wants at school, now that would be priceless

How I hate those films.
Yeah it would be rather priceless. Not necessarily in a positive way. =P

[Drirlake]

How I hate those films.
Yeah it would be rather priceless. Not necessarily in a positive way. =P

Meh, I won't be so sad if that happens, Warcraft lore is dead to me anyways, But I know I will laugh like !@#@

[Timolas]

Meh, I won't be so sad if that happens, Warcraft lore is dead to me anyways, But I know I will laugh like !@#@

Yeah that would certainly be the priceless bit.
Never forget the morale the story would present!

[Omacron]

If that happens, we should get all WoW fans to finance a MST3K treatment of it.

[Kenzuki]

How I hate those films.
Yeah it would be rather priceless. Not necessarily in a positive way. =P

I vote on the troll, because trolls are useless for anything other than loot tables or comedy anyway.

[Kerrah]

I vote on the gnome, because gnomes are useless for anything other than comedy anyway.

Fixed.

[Omacron]

Fixed.

What about sports?

[Kerrah]

What about sports?

Whack-a-gnome isn't a sport, it's a Darkmoon Faire game.

[Lon-ami]

Hope they don't destroy the film with a stupid actor like Nicolas Cage or just another parody character...

[Kenzuki]

Hope they don't destroy the film with a stupid actor like Nicolas Cage or just another parody character...

Nicolas Cage is a good actor.

[Drz]

Nicolas Cage is a good actor.

QFT, but just happened to be in every movie that was out there lol. =P think he starred 4 movies in both 2006 and 2007, could be wrong tho. (And imo thats alot, but its all about quality of course).

[Kerrah]

Lord of War is fucking heaven. Anyone who claims Nicholas Cage can't act must see it first.

[Vicious]

Nicolas Cage is a good actor.

His 2007 movies were terrible, the fact that he´s a good actor doesn´t help.

[Drirlake]

Lord of War is fucking heaven. Anyone who claims Nicholas Cage can't act must see it first.

Gooooo watch National treasure 2 plz kthnxbai.

[GreenEye]

You should watch Adaption.

[Flamestrider]

GreenEye is right. "Adaptation" and "The Weather Man" are both evidence that Nicholas Cage can be a very good actor. He just also happens to have no scruples about taking every script that's thrown into his lap.

[Drirlake]

GreenEye is right. "Adaptation" and "The Weather Man" are both evidence that Nicholas Cage can be a very good actor. He just also happens to have no scruples about taking every script that's thrown into his lap.

I think you might be referring to Ghost rider....

[Lon-ami]

Ghost rider... Ghost rider... :(

[Drz]

Yeah that was such a joke movie. :( but it was okayish to see Legion demon, always fun to see him in Castlevania games. ^^;

Btw check this quote:
Alliance players comes into a giant Alliance stronghold with a brand new leader that devs are currently building up, and a massive alliance steam ship. They plan to launch an expeditionary force to get to the Icecrown Citadel and defeat Arthas.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/

Got it from mmo-champion. =P But point being that maybe this brand new Hero will be in the Warcraft movie, or that they simply scrapped the idea of sending Bolvar Fordragon to Northrend.

[Timolas]

Or it will be none other than Varian, who's very public identity will no longer be a secret by the time WotLK is released.

[Vicious]

Devs really feel they were too protective of Illidan and want players to interact with Arthas a lot more, you will talk to him, have moments with him, and you won't have to be a raider to see him.

While this sounds pretty cool, shouldn´t they be even more protective with the Lich King?

Gameplay mechanics aside, i bet that the Icecrown Glacier Citatel is even more tight than the Black Temple.


Either way, i´ll glady welcome this expansion and the Sunwell patch, new fucking content bitch.

[Drz]

It could be we just see some form of an "ghost" or essence of Arthas, just like when you get exalted with the Netherwing Dragons and Illidan busts out the new orc general as the player. =P

[GreenEye]

The one person who I would truly applaud and support in becoming the Lich King's main antagonist is Tirion Fordring. Such a kick-butt character who's remained awesome through the entire franchise, picking up the Ashbringer and running it through the Lich King with the wrath of everyone Arthas has ever killed, and with all the lives he's destroyed in his reign of cold terror, Lordaeron, Quel'Thalas, Uther, Terenas, Muradin, and everyone else.

If they go with that I can't see anything but awesomeness. Tirion should also somehow smash Frostmourne with Ashbringer and release Arthas' soul back into his body. Though there'd be some trouble since he and Ner'zhul have "fused", however, I could imagine it working during the time he was a DK in RoK and TfT before he fused with Ner'zhul, as his only problem during that time was the fact that Frostmourne had sucked his soul in.

[Krucifire]

IMO, Tirion should Slay Arthas.. Pick Up Frostmourne DW, then become the new Lich-King.. and Triple Class! So he would be a.

Lvl 72Paladin - Lvl 1 Deathknight - ?? Lich-King, that can DW 2H weps.. so WoW can be more like DnD

[Gurtogg_Bloodboil]

I think the "brand new leader" might refer not to an entirely new character but to a character new to gain leadership. From Screenshots we already know Tirion is there, so it may refer to him. Or course, it might also be our comic hero, presumably Varian.

However, if the Lich King has to go down I think it would be most satisfying to have Sylvanas somehow be involved. Sure, Tirion is a badass and him getting the Ashbringer makes him cool but his arcs involved orc/human prejudice and the Scarlet Crusade. On the other hand, Sylvanas is all about hatred of Arthas. Right from the start as a Forsaken you know you hate the scourge.

[GreenEye]

I think the "brand new leader" might refer not to an entirely new character but to a character new to gain leadership. From Screenshots we already know Tirion is there, so it may refer to him. Or course, it might also be our comic hero, presumably Varian.

However, if the Lich King has to go down I think it would be most satisfying to have Sylvanas somehow be involved. Sure, Tirion is a badass and him getting the Ashbringer makes him cool but his arcs involved orc/human prejudice and the Scarlet Crusade. On the other hand, Sylvanas is all about hatred of Arthas. Right from the start as a Forsaken you know you hate the scourge.

Yeah but that has already been done, it'd be the exact same thing as with Illidan + Akama/Maiev.

[Gurtogg_Bloodboil]

Well it just makes sense to me that the person whos entire life (or unlife) revolves around killing you will be more instrumental in your death than someone who just hates you because you're a bad guy.

[Kenzuki]

The one person who I would truly applaud and support in becoming the Lich King's main antagonist is Tirion Fordring. Such a kick-butt character who's remained awesome through the entire franchise, picking up the Ashbringer and running it through the Lich King with the wrath of everyone Arthas has ever killed, and with all the lives he's destroyed in his reign of cold terror, Lordaeron, Quel'Thalas, Uther, Terenas, Muradin, and everyone else.

If they go with that I can't see anything but awesomeness. Tirion should also somehow smash Frostmourne with Ashbringer and release Arthas' soul back into his body. Though there'd be some trouble since he and Ner'zhul have "fused", however, I could imagine it working during the time he was a DK in RoK and TfT before he fused with Ner'zhul, as his only problem during that time was the fact that Frostmourne had sucked his soul in.

Tirion was a mediocre character from an e-book that alot of it's contents have been retconned. The timeline doesn't even make sense anymore.

No....leet raiders will kill Arthas probably with help from sexy, busty women like Sylvanas and Jaina.

Arthas is already dead anyway they had such a good story potential but it's going to waste thanks to WoW.

[Drz]

well Metzen did promise a spectratucular (lol spelling) ending for Lich King, not that he will die, but that Arthas will.

[Timolas]

Spectacular death animation? Real zesty particle effects?
Cheesy dialogue?
And a promise of imminent return and the end of the world with this glorious return. That will either never happen or make real lame content for the expansion number twenty seven; The Lich King's Wrath, Again.

I do hope they give Sylvanas and Jaina some part in Northrend. For Sylvanas at least more than just sitting around in her new town doing nothing.

[Drirlake]

A "Massive" alliance steam ship? Muahaha I laugh at the horde, still using ballons while the Alliance has obviously built the titanic!

[Lon-ami]

You hadn't hear about the Ogre Juggernaught, had you?

That steam ship is nothing while we have the juggers!

[Omacron]

Some footage from IGN has that ship, pay attention and it's not the normal ship, it has an eagle head prow and a paddle in the aft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o9YLvd938o&feature=related at 1:30

[Lon-ami]

Ogre Juggernaught is 100 times bigger.