Alleria Windrunner

[Damonmeister]

I was looking at the interview where Metzen mentions the heroes from WCII-Beyond the Dark Portal would show up in the expansion. It made me realize a possible explanation for the Blood Elves joining up with the horde. Alleria has been stranded in the Nether for a long time now and in contact with the source of demonic magic. It is possible that she has been driven a little insane herself and has become a Blood Elf in all but name. It is not too much of a stretch that she has come into contact with the Blood Elves, maybe even using her past influences to gain control. This would explain them joining the Horde, as the leaders of BE and Forsaken would be sisters.

It is a little far-fetched, but just throwing it out there.

[Bradford]

Not far fetched at all..... Makes sense to me. I mean if the others have survived why not her as well? My question on top of this is....... if she has in fact become a blood elf, then what will happen to her Statue in front of Stormwind? I mean if the BEs join the horde, will they destroy her statue? I would if I were the humans.

[Kenzuki]

Sorry, even if Sylvanas is her sister, Alleria HATES orcs, she absolutely HATES them. They burnt her homeland and killed her family. She consideres them as mere beasts, and she desposes of them as she see fits. She's cooler than Sylvanas EVER could be.

"touch me again, and you'll pull back a stump."

[Bradford]

Sorry, even if Sylvanas is her sister, Alleria HATES orcs, she absolutely HATES them. They burnt her homeland and killed her family. She consideres them as mere beasts, and she desposes of them as she see fits. She's cooler than Sylvanas EVER could be.

"touch me again, and you'll pull back a stump."

Who knows what may have changed in the time she was left in Dreanor. I dont think its far fetched at all. She is STILL a High elf, and the high elves have not always been the most open minded. I think it would make sense that she joins her people and her sister to ally with the new Orcish horde (Minus the bloodlust). I think that it not far fetched at all. With this said, it is ALL opinion at this point. Stranger things have happened with the Warcraft storyline......... :D

[Ablamar]

I think this is extremely far fetched. Alleria has already been on Outland and has no reason to join the Horde to get back to it. Being with Khadgar she already has the means to do so. Khadgar the leader of the pack is known as being a good guy and thus the heroes who joined up with him have no reason to dislike the Alliance either.

Why would Alleria go back to Azeroth, to become a Blood Elf and to then go back to Outland again? Especially since she most likely already knows about the corruption of the Blood Elves that have joined Illidan. So she wouldn't be wanting to join them in the first place. She can't be shocked about what has become of Kael'Thas and his followers.

Even Vereesa most likely knows by now what has become of her sister Sylvanus. I truly doubt the Windrunner sisters would turn on the Alliance like that. Vereesa knows what the Alliance can be like because of Rhonin. She would never turn her back to him. And Alleria won't do the same thing to Khadgar either, because he is true and true Alliance. And not much like the tyrant Garithos. Alleria simply has no reason to abandon the Alliance, the people who have made sure that she survived in Outland.

[Urin_Bloodface]

Well they have been sister for a few thousand years ... perhaps that counts for more. We have no idea what happened to the Heroes after BTDP. Perhaps they have all turned bad except Alleria. Who knows?

[Vicious]

Sorry, even if Sylvanas is her sister, Alleria HATES orcs, she absolutely HATES them. They burnt her homeland and killed her family. She consideres them as mere beasts, and she desposes of them as she see fits. She's cooler than Sylvanas EVER could be.

"touch me again, and you'll pull back a stump."


Quoted for truth, all the Alliance that managed to escape the Horde share the same way of thinking as Admiral Proudmoore and looks what he did.

And Alleria pwns all elfs, ´nuff said.

[Yuber8900]

Except for Khadgar......

[Vicious]

Except for Khadgar......


Even Kadghar, Garona was an exeption.

[Bradford]

I guess this could all go back and point to the fact there are still High elves left in the alliance. However it will be a small number, Metzen said there were still some left. I would LOVE to see the High elves as a playable race. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[Kenzuki]

I guess this could all go back and point to the fact there are still High elves left in the alliance. However it will be a small number, Metzen said there were still some left. I would LOVE to see the High elves as a playable race. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Of course he ment the high elves on AZEROTH, there were a fair share that went with the Alliance Expedition to Draenor. Remember, it wasn't JUST the Five Heroes who escaped Draenor, it was their entire army as well!

Also there is too MUCH forgiveness going on here. I'm GLAD Blizzard is turning back towards the Alliance Vs. Horde fight, they even appear to be making the Horde corrupt again with the addition of the Forsaken and Blood Elves :D

[Bradford]

Of course he ment the high elves on AZEROTH, there were a fair share that went with the Alliance Expedition to Draenor. Remember, it wasn't JUST the Five Heroes who escaped Draenor, it was their entire army as well!

Also there is too MUCH forgiveness going on here. I'm GLAD Blizzard is turning back towards the Alliance Vs. Horde fight, they even appear to be making the Horde corrupt again with the addition of the Forsaken and Blood Elves :D

Agreed, there is getting to be less and less Gray with the good vs the bad. I think the ultimate bad is still the scourge/burning legion but I have a feeling deep down inside me that Arthas is still got some good in him. I think that he will turn back to the alliance eventually! Thats going out on a limb, I know.... but lets wait and see.

[Ravenclaw2099]

As interesting as it would be to see Arthas overcome the grip of the Lich King and return as the King of Lorderon (Or whats left of it), I personally want to see his arrogant ass kicked inside out, even if it is impossible for almost anyone to do right now..except for maybe Kil'jaedan and the Aspects.

[Kenzuki]

As interesting as it would be to see Arthas overcome the grip of the Lich King and return as the King of Lorderon (Or whats left of it), I personally want to see his arrogant ass kicked inside out, even if it is impossible for almost anyone to do right now..except for maybe Kil'jaedan and the Aspects.

Kil'jaeden would have his hands full, and he'd kill an Aspect if he fought one.

And why would Arthas escape form the grip of the LK, when he IS the Lich King?

[Ravenclaw2099]

Dunno, I was just responding to Bradford's theory. As you have mentioned, both Arthas and Ner'zhul have become one single entity. so I doubt we'll ever see Arthas go back ro being good. And perhaps "Ar'zhul" could defeat an aspect one on one, but if he were to face all of them at once, he'd probably get his ass handed to him on an silver platter.

[Yuber8900]

Lol you think Kil'jaeden can match one on one with an aspect?

[Vicious]

Lol you think Kil'jaeden can match one on one with an aspect?

He would beat the crap out of most of the Ancients actually.

[Kenzuki]

Lol you think Kil'jaeden can match one on one with an aspect?

Kil'jaeden could show Malygos the finer arts of spellcasting. There is only one creature with spellcasting talent greater than Kil'jaeden, and that is Norgannon himself.

Oh and, if it's ALL the Aspects vs the Lich King, than it's only fair to add the Scourge into the fray. In which case, the Lich King has the favor, with numbers. Once an Aspect falls, it shall become a Frost Wyrm!

[Yuber8900]

If Lich Boy has the Scourge then the Aspects of WTFpwn get the flights.

[Bradford]

If Lich Boy has the Scourge then the Aspects of WTFpwn get the flights.

I have been playing MMOs since MUDS and Meridian 59, and I still have yet to understand the Cyber-Jive. Im only 27 years old, not too old by most means, but I still do not understand kiddie.....

[Kenzuki]

If Lich Boy has the Scourge then the Aspects of WTFpwn get the flights.

Bring em' on, more fuel for the Scourge's already swelling forces. Face it, the Day of the Dragon has ended! The reign of the Scourge has come!

[Ravenclaw2099]

Not much of a reign, if you consider that Arthas now has a civil war on his hands :P. The Undead are now split between the scourge and Forsaken, and are surrounded by Alliance and Horde as well. Arthas alone may be able to face these odds, but the armies of the Scourge by themsleves would crumble under the combined might of their foes combined.

[Kenzuki]

Not much of a reign, if you consider that Arthas now has a civil war on his hands :P. The Undead are now split between the scourge and Forsaken, and are surrounded by Alliance and Horde as well. Arthas alone may be able to face these odds, but the armies of the Scourge by themsleves would crumble under the combined might of their foes combined.

Considering the Lich King doesn't even consider the Forsaken a threat, but merely lost sheep who will soon return to the fold. I doubt they are worried. Despite the farmed Scholomance and Stratholme dungeons in WoW, I assure you, the Scourge controls alot of Lordaeron still. At least he's doing better than the now insane Illidan.

[Yuber8900]

Once the necropolis falls the only thing left is Northerend, and if Arthas makes it in as a raid boss then the Forsaken will all be free eternally....

[Beowulf]

Once the necropolis falls the only thing left is Northerend, and if Arthas makes it in as a raid boss then the Forsaken will all be free eternally....

That will never happen, the forsaken will never be free. EVER! Even if they do end up killing Arthas "Which i dought they will prob make him go insane after the so called death seen..." They are bound to the undeath or something, and are miserable basterds and wont have any reason to live period. Thrall sure as shit aint going to let them get a 2nd plauge off....so pretty much after Arthas goes "Insane" hehe....Thrall and the rest of the horde will slaughter you bone bags.

Death to the UNDEAD!...or something

[Kakwakas]

That will never happen, the forsaken will never be free. EVER! Even if they do end up killing Arthas "Which i dought they will prob make him go insane after the so called death seen..." They are bound to the undeath or something, and are miserable basterds and wont have any reason to live period. Thrall sure as shit aint going to let them get a 2nd plauge off....so pretty much after Arthas goes "Insane" hehe....Thrall and the rest of the horde will slaughter you bone bags.

Death to the UNDEAD!...or something

Maybe if Arthas dies, all the undead die?

[Beowulf]

Maybe if Arthas dies, all the undead die?
I was thinking that but Arthas only controls the scourge, he didnt raise them all. If he dies it would be mass chaos all of the dead would have there free will again. Talk about nuts.

[Kenzuki]

I was thinking that but Arthas only controls the scourge, he didnt raise them all. If he dies it would be mass chaos all of the dead would have there free will again. Talk about nuts.

You know....maybe it ISN'T such a good idea to destroy the Lich King afterall. With him dead, Kil'jaeden basically has nothing to fear from the two warring factions.

[Beowulf]

You know....maybe it ISN'T such a good idea to destroy the Lich King afterall. With him dead, Kil'jaeden basically has nothing to fear from the two warring factions.
True, I would rather be in league Arthas then kill him. That would have been awesome. You could either serve Illidan or Arthas.

But noooo!!! Lets raid everything!

[Kenzuki]

True, I would rather be in league Arthas then kill him. That would have been awesome. You could either serve Illidan or Arthas.

But noooo!!! Lets raid everything!

I'de join Arthas in a HEARTBEAT. But sadly, we are all forced to be good....

[Yuber8900]

So murdering poor puppies and farmers is good now? Let's all raze Hillsbrad!

[Ersinus]

I am against killing Arthas on a raid. And Ilidan should be able to escape at the end of the raid fight. If the fate of the legends and eternals should be decided, it should be on the very roots of warcraft, on the next RTS game. Killing so important characters endless times on raids makes the things so un-epic.

[Kenzuki]

"Frostmourne is a hunter weapon! It has +attack power and stamina!!!!" - Me

[Vicious]

"Frostmourne is a hunter weapon! It has +attack power and stamina!!!!" - Me

You hunters....all greddy bastards, you should pick a rogue, who is honorable in his believes and ninjas the item.

[Kenzuki]

You hunters....all greddy bastards, you should pick a rogue, who is honorable in his believes and ninjas the item.

But unlike rogues, we hunters can use almost everything, minus wands and maces.....so it's not really being greedy if I CAN use it....but just in case.

"I get all plate drops, kk?"

[Yuber8900]

The only class that can use Frostmourne would be Paladin, and it's for our Artifact Quest to become the new Lich King.

[Kakwakas]

You hunters....all greddy bastards, you should pick a rogue, who is honorable in his believes and ninjas the item.

Mmmm, I love class stereotypes.

[Kenzuki]

Paladin man, paladin man,
Paladin man meets Warrior man
They have a fight, paladin hearths,
Warrior man, hates paladin man.

:D

[Yuber8900]

Screw that all those pansy ass warriors rolling on my Ashkandi! Christ all Warriors are supposed to do is tank, DPS is for Mages Rogue Hunters and Pallies!

[Doomhammer]

Priests get Face melting so Paladins get Ass melting!

[Vicious]

Mmmm, I love class stereotypes.

They´re kinda cool, makes sure i get what i want.

[Kakwakas]

Paladin man, paladin man,
Paladin man meets Warrior man
They have a fight, paladin hearths,
Warrior man, hates paladin man.

:D
I'm a little pally, short and stout
Here is my hammer, here is my mount
When I get in battle, hear me shout
Just POP my bubble, and hearth out!

[Urin_Bloodface]

I'm a little pally, short and stout
Here is my hammer, here is my mount
When I get in battle, hear me shout
Just POP my bubble, and hearth out!



BLAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA !!!

[Yuber8900]

Dwarves don't count as Paladins they disgrace this Holy and Racist order!

[Kenzuki]

Dwarves don't count as Paladins they disgrace this Holy and Racist order!

We ran out of the real man, and hey, who doesn't love midgits?

[Yuber8900]

Gnomepunt the Tauren Warrior.