View Full Version : Do you think there will be a replacement for the Cerebrates?
emperium
01-03-2008, 02:32 PM
Cosidering that it is now canon that all cerebrates were killed soon after the second overminds defeat. Will Kerrigan create some new breed that will help her control the swarm?
Kenzuki
01-03-2008, 04:16 PM
Cosidering that it is now canon that all cerebrates were killed soon after the second overminds defeat. Will Kerrigan create some new breed that will help her control the swarm?
Kerrigan directly controls the Swarm, she needs no Cerebrates as far as I know.
Medievaldragon
01-03-2008, 04:19 PM
There's a rumor going around that Kerrigan may have assimilated the Dragoon plants to produce zerg infested dragoons. Since these protoss have telepathy they could very well be Kerrigan's own cerebrate-like slaves.
Kenzuki
01-03-2008, 04:30 PM
There's a rumor going around that Kerrigan may have assimilated the Dragoon plants to produce zerg infested dragoons. Since these protoss have telepathy they could very well be Kerrigan's own cerebrate-like slaves.
Didn't Metzen say that she didn't need Cerebrates or something?
ScytheRexx
01-03-2008, 04:34 PM
The books sort of imply that she does it through the more easy to control Overlords.
The Cerebrates were sort of a proxy between the Overmind and the Overlords, and actually under certain circumstances were more of a hinderance due to the fact that if the Cerebrate was severed from the Swarm, the entire brood would go renegade that even the Overmind would be unable to retake control. (EX Garm Brood).
Kerrigan does not have that weakness. She speaks directly with the Overlords, who then control the general operations of the hives as she sees fit. Since there are multiple Overlords under control of each hive, Kerrigan has a much safer method of control with the only true way of taking it away being herself getting killed.
Medievaldragon
01-03-2008, 04:36 PM
Cerebrates were intelligent and stubborn. However, she could use slaves bent to her will such as Infested Dragoons. It's all speculation anyway, but there is a difference. The Cerebrates were against her in Brood War.
She could manipulate the matriarch for example.
ARM3481
01-03-2008, 07:52 PM
In a way, the Cerebrates were sort of a means by which the singular will of the Overmind could manifest seperate, divergent opinions and points of view within the hive mind in order to react to changing situations, thus creating flexibility that wouldn't be present if its mind alone were directly responsible for every little action throughout the entire Swarm. Since even their differing stances on things were always dominated by a core loyalty to the cause of the Zerg, it could trust the Cerebrates to always be working toward the furterance of the Swarm's goals, even when their views of how to go about it might not always be the same. Thus, the Cerebrates could essentially create a "pool" of differing experiences from which to draw strategic and tactical knowledge, like a group of generals.
Kerrigan, on the other hand, possesses the human capacity for frequently distrusting those around her (especially with her own personal history of being abused and betrayed by those close to her), so she probably isn't interested in hearing what anyone else under her control has to say about anything.
Kerrah
01-03-2008, 10:28 PM
And that will be her downfall.
ARM3481
01-03-2008, 11:48 PM
And that will be her downfall.
Very well could be.
Consider this: both the Scourge and Zerg basically went through the same ultimate change: the calculating, focused and emotionally detached central intelligence with a clear set of goals and purpose behind their actions has been replaced by a vengeful hothead with a temper and serious psychological issues.
They've both also spent the past several years sitting on their asses, in control of a massive force with no personal reasons or vendettas left to motivate them to even use it. The Lich King is free, and Arthas crushed every individual who got in his way while solidifying the power of the Scourge by merging into one being. Kerrigan kept her freedom from the Overmind, gained control over the Swarm, and got her revenge upon those who had wronged her.
So...exactly what still has either of them pissed off enough to do anything with those big, terrible armies at their disposal? I mean, for all intents and purposes, they've got everything they want already. There's no good reason for either of them to bother with attacking their respective enemies again, since they both had the chance to annihilate their foes completely and opted instead to go with leaving said foes ruined and defeated in their wake, presumably to "live with the guilt and knowledge of their defeats".
Arthas apparently has purple loot to drop, but just why should Kerrigan even care enough to attack a bunch of backwater Terran colonies and the still-recovering Protoss race again? Admittedly, Blizz's writers will be more inclined to justify such things with a cohesive story, since unlike a MMORPG, a RTS will demand that the story be self-contained and linear instead of leaving them the option of getting bored and just moving onto the next big expansion while slapping together a quick fix to end the previous storyline.
well in the Lich King does want both the Alliance and Horde get rid of some pests, Arthas himself doesn't wanna invest time and undead on, heh. Like Malygos for example, and prolly some old god who suddenly the nerubians start to worship even tho they aren't suppose to. :P Or maybe the Nerubians are fighting one at the moment and some new faction (ya farm for tabard and other cool stuff!) comes up.
emperium
01-06-2008, 11:51 AM
Didn't Metzen say that she didn't need Cerebrates or something?
If that was the case why did she need a cerebrate to control her broods during the Brood war?
Also I wonder who's unit portrait will they use for Zerg building?()cosidering there are no longer any overmind/cerebrates) It better not be The queen bitch herself!
Aldrius
01-06-2008, 11:59 AM
Infested Terran Ghosts lieutenants under her complete control.
That's what I say.
Kerrah
01-06-2008, 12:01 PM
Infested Terran Ghosts lieutenants under her complete control.
That's what I say.
She tried that in the Brood Wars, it didn't work out well.
Aldrius
01-06-2008, 12:10 PM
Not as far as she knows. And she tried it in "Shadow Hunters" too.
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