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Leviathon
05-10-2012, 02:37 PM
Now we can quest together!

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/5393667

Sonneillon
05-10-2012, 02:43 PM
Fuck yeah!

Porimlys
05-10-2012, 02:47 PM
Totally saw this coming

Euphemialibritannia
05-10-2012, 02:50 PM
Totally saw this coming

Are you some sort of peer who can predict the future?


Will I ever find true love?

Garotar
05-10-2012, 02:53 PM
Interesting.

handclaw
05-10-2012, 02:58 PM
Very interesting feature, indeed. :)


Will I ever find true love?

http://www.fatwallet.com/static/attachments/32326_magic8ballno.jpg

Porimlys
05-10-2012, 03:01 PM
Are you some sort of peer who can predict the future?


Will I ever find true love?

You'll meet a homeless man who claims his name to be True Love. Balls in your court at that point.

Garotar
05-10-2012, 03:04 PM
Not sure I like this or not. But then I also generally prefer questing in areas that don't have a lot of other people, and I also don't tend to randomly group.

Sonneillon
05-10-2012, 03:05 PM
Are you some sort of peer who can predict the future?


Will I ever find true love?

You already have... unfortunately it's Bolvar.

Arakiba
05-10-2012, 03:10 PM
Can't say I expected this. Do like the sound of it, though. Should make things easier on the lower level zones.

Omacron
05-10-2012, 03:10 PM
You already have... unfortunately it's Bolvar.

I bet if Bolvar were gay he'd totally be a power bottom.

Leviathon
05-10-2012, 03:11 PM
Not sure I like this or not. But then I also generally prefer questing in areas that don't have a lot of other people, and I also don't tend to randomly group.

In the end this works towards Blizzards goal of everything being community driven rather than just realm.

Omacron
05-10-2012, 03:12 PM
In the end this works towards Blizzards goal of everything being community driven rather than just realm.

If only they'd bridge the NA and EU servers so all of us SoLites could play together.

Nazja
05-10-2012, 03:13 PM
I bet if Bolvar were gay he'd totally be a power bottom.
What is a power bottom? When you answer put emphasis on the word power. I already know what being a bottom entails. (Damn you yaoi-fangirls and your stupid fanfics)

Garotar
05-10-2012, 03:15 PM
In the end this works towards Blizzards goal of everything being community driven rather than just realm.

For me, it's more of a concern on what the cut off before too populated is, because I tend to enjoy levelling less when there are a lot of other people around than when there are none.

Euphemialibritannia
05-10-2012, 03:16 PM
What is a power bottom? When you answer put emphasis on the word power. I already know what being a bottom entails. (Damn you yaoi-fangirls and your stupid fanfics)

It means you like being in power of the situation, which is usually the top's job, usually the more "aggressive" one.

Also the future that you guys predict for me already sounds like an upgrade to my current status quo!

Leviathon
05-10-2012, 03:17 PM
For me, it's more of a concern on what the cut off before too populated is, because I tend to enjoy levelling less when there are a lot of other people around than when there are none.

I'd imagine it's not too high and by the sounds of it the change will mostly affect low pop realms. It's a way to prevent realm merges.

GenyaArikado
05-10-2012, 03:17 PM
HA YOU DOUBLE POSTED NOOB.


What is a power bottom? When you answer put emphasis on the word power. I already know what being a bottom entails. (Damn you yaoi-fangirls and your stupid fanfics)

I'm more interested in how does Omacrom learn those...terms

Garotar
05-10-2012, 03:20 PM
I'd imagine it's not too high and by the sounds of it the change will mostly affect low pop realms. It's a way to prevent realm merges.

Yeah I get that. I'm going to wait to see it in action (or at least hear more about it in action) before I make a final judgement anyway.

Magistrix Verdande
05-10-2012, 03:20 PM
I bet if Bolvar were gay he'd totally be a power bottom.

"If" ? :raisedbro

Euphemialibritannia
05-10-2012, 03:22 PM
HA YOU DOUBLE POSTED NOOB.




I'm more interested in how does Omacrom learn those...terms
It doesn't hurt to be a little cultured in our ways.:kawaii:

Niars
05-10-2012, 03:26 PM
As I've mentioned just about everywhere...


I'm apprehensive at best about this, and I'm waiting on an official comment on how this will work for RP realms before making my judgement. I hope they'll link realm types together, rather than battlegroups, because I'd rather not have to face down a bunch of whiny Italian PvPers when I'm having a quiet chat in Ashenvale with some Sentinels.

Garotar
05-10-2012, 03:28 PM
As I've mentioned just about everywhere...


I'm apprehensive at best about this, and I'm waiting on an official comment on how this will work for RP realms before making my judgement. I hope they'll link realm types together, rather than battlegroups, because I'd rather not have to face down a bunch of whiny Italian PvPers when I'm having a quiet chat in Ashenvale with some Sentinels.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/222499-cross-realm-zones-coming-to-beta/

@Kadaje: We'll be matching realm types when this goes to the live realms. (We will add a Q&A in the above FAQ to make that clear.)

Leviathon
05-10-2012, 03:28 PM
As I've mentioned just about everywhere...


I'm apprehensive at best about this, and I'm waiting on an official comment on how this will work for RP realms before making my judgement. I hope they'll link realm types together, rather than battlegroups, because I'd rather not have to face down a bunch of whiny Italian PvPers when I'm having a quiet chat in Ashenvale with some Sentinels.

Why are they Italian?

Zaelsino
05-10-2012, 03:30 PM
A surge of activity in low level zones might convince them to update Draeneimyst/Quel'Thalas. Maybe. Someday...

... But yeah, this is a good change; I'm rather excited to see how it'll play out. It's just the thing to make the "world" feel more alive.

Garotar
05-10-2012, 03:30 PM
Interesting thing I missed in the FAQ is that this also allows them to have multiple zones on the same server as a way to deal with zone overcrowding. That part I like.

Niars
05-10-2012, 03:31 PM
Why are they Italian?

Crushridge is in the battlegroup, and is an 'unofficial' italian realm. When cross-realm instancing came our battlegroup had to put up with the screams of 'Porco Dio' as they mindlessly charge into mobs.

For some reason they were almost entirely terrible players, too.


And thanks, Garotar!

Omacron
05-10-2012, 03:37 PM
I'm more interested in how does Omacrom learn those...terms

My mom runs a porn company that's aimed at women. Women like gay porn more than gay guys do. Ergo, you pick up some terms.

Plus my mom's a fag hag so my family has a lot of gay friends in general. My babysitter as a kid was a drag queen- he didn't babysit me in drag, but that's how my mom met him, at a drag club.

Leviathon
05-10-2012, 03:39 PM
My mom runs a porn company that's aimed at women. Women like gay porn more than gay guys do. Ergo, you pick up some terms.

Plus my mom's a fag hag so my family has a lot of gay friends in general. My babysitter as a kid was a drag queen- he didn't babysit me in drag, but that's how my mom met him, at a drag club.

The more I know about you the more odd I think you are.

Porimlys
05-10-2012, 03:47 PM
The more I know about you the more odd I think you are.

I think it explains so much

GenyaArikado
05-10-2012, 03:54 PM
It doesn't hurt to be a little cultured in our ways.:kawaii:

I can google that, I dont want to, but I can. I cant google Grandma story.

Why are they Italian?

http://emob1109.photobucket.com/albums/h421/JosephEddie/Web/Im_Italian.jpg?t=1333655154

My mom runs a porn company that's aimed at women. Women like gay porn more than gay guys do. Ergo, you pick up some terms.

Plus my mom's a fag hag so my family has a lot of gay friends in general. My babysitter as a kid was a drag queen- he didn't babysit me in drag, but that's how my mom met him, at a drag club.


Lovely, I guess

Bolvar
05-10-2012, 04:01 PM
Just what all the ERP'ers in Goldshire needed...

Nazja
05-10-2012, 04:06 PM
Just what all the ERP'ers in Goldshire needed...

a porn company or power bottom Bolvar?

mjbmitch
05-10-2012, 04:12 PM
This is fantastic! I was thinking Blizzard would do something like this. A while ago someone found a picture that may have foreshadowed this:
http://www.blizzplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/wow-soon-we-fly-together-again-promo1.jpg

I absolutely think that one day, Blizzard might completely restart the IP and recreate WoW as a more throughout MMO, including many of the features that we have now... Or maybe that's exactly what they're doing with their new IP! Either way, I love it!

Lowtide
05-10-2012, 04:14 PM
Offering my service as bounty hunter.
You name him, invite me, I'll do it.

Payment upfront.

Bolvar
05-10-2012, 04:15 PM
a porn company or power bottom Bolvar?

I'm flattered, but, honestly, you'd have to be pretty desperate to want any of my hairy backside.

... which pretty much describes Goldshire ERP'ers... dammit...

What I really would like is to have the ability to queue up with EU players.

And cross-realm heirlooms already, for crying out loud.

mjbmitch
05-10-2012, 04:29 PM
My mom runs a porn company that's aimed at women. Women like gay porn more than gay guys do. Ergo, you pick up some terms.

Plus my mom's a fag hag so my family has a lot of gay friends in general. My babysitter as a kid was a drag queen- he didn't babysit me in drag, but that's how my mom met him, at a drag club.

I'm suddenly starting to see you very differently.

Euphemialibritannia
05-10-2012, 04:33 PM
I'm flattered, but, honestly, you'd have to be pretty desperate to want any of my hairy backside.

Careful what you ask for :3

Nazja
05-10-2012, 04:41 PM
Careful what you ask for :3
The plot thickens.

Euphemialibritannia
05-10-2012, 04:55 PM
The plot thickens.
Like his back? :X

Omacron
05-10-2012, 05:01 PM
You one for bears, Euphemial?

Cantus
05-10-2012, 05:20 PM
[quote=Bolvar;482822What I really would like is to have the ability to queue up with EU players.

And cross-realm heirlooms already, for crying out loud.[/quote]Ditto, but the latency issues are probably half the problem. The thing they should really do though is to have Real ID friends match up regardless of region (maybe a designated set of cross-region servers).

Euphemialibritannia
05-10-2012, 05:37 PM
You one for bears, Euphemial?

I honestly do actually.

Ashendant
05-10-2012, 05:53 PM
They should just fuse all auction houses already

Lowtide
05-10-2012, 05:53 PM
Now I'll never post my picture :|
Getting groped in the subway is enough.

Porimlys
05-10-2012, 05:54 PM
They should just fuse all auction houses already

that could potentially be a huge disaster.

Ashendant
05-10-2012, 05:56 PM
that could potentially be a huge disaster.

Why? Because it would stop a single player from being able to hog an entire realm resources, AND allow access to more rare to get goods.

Quaero
05-10-2012, 06:12 PM
Why? Because it would stop a single player from being able to hog an entire realm resources, AND allow access to more rare to get goods.

Then we would have cartels of people controlling the market together.

Porimlys
05-10-2012, 06:14 PM
Prices would plummet with so many people using one auction house.

Millenia
05-10-2012, 06:14 PM
This will be hilarious in RP realms. I wonder how people will rationalize it in RP.

I'd blame the bronze dragons for this. Stupid Nozdormu!

Just what all the ERP'ers in Goldshire needed...
Actually, in that zone it'd be like being thirsty in an ocean. Players, players everywhere, and yet not a one to quest...

Or something like that. I'm terrible at poetry.

Omacron
05-10-2012, 06:18 PM
This will be hilarious in RP realms. I wonder how people will rationalize it in RP.

Running into someone random? It's not like every character can know every person in Azeroth.

Millenia
05-10-2012, 06:28 PM
Running into someone random? It's not like every character can know every person in Azeroth.
Oh you and your Occam's Razor.

Though it still doesn't take into account the slight differences between what happened in realms. Server X may have elected Bob as archbishop, for instance, while another would have left the position unattended.

Then again, considering the sheer number of guard and Scarlet guilds there are...

Omacron
05-10-2012, 06:32 PM
Oh you and your Occam's Razor.

Though it still doesn't take into account the slight differences between what happened in realms. Server X may have elected Bob as archbishop, for instance, while another would have left the position unattended.

Then again, considering the sheer number of guard and Scarlet guilds there are...

It's not up to the players to make lore decisions, so tough fucking shit. It's no different than running into someone who claims to be Arthas' non-canon son.

Garotar
05-10-2012, 06:51 PM
Oh you and your Occam's Razor.

Though it still doesn't take into account the slight differences between what happened in realms. Server X may have elected Bob as archbishop, for instance, while another would have left the position unattended.

Then again, considering the sheer number of guard and Scarlet guilds there are...

Server Lore is one of those things that, when you run into a random person, probably doesn't really matter that much, so they could just not mention it. Hell, there are people on the same server who don't acknowledge the same things happening in character, so you would deal with it the same way.

Leviathon
05-10-2012, 07:33 PM
RP realms are confusing.

Ashendant
05-10-2012, 07:37 PM
Then we would have cartels of people controlling the market together.

If they could keep up with 10 million players, besides these already exist, fusing the AH will just make it harder for them to do it.

Prices would plummet with so many people using one auction house.

Probably but there would also would a lot more buyers.

Besides Runescape did it although it's slightly more anonymous, it's just having one AH across all realms(or three since there's horde neutral and alliance) would help getting the rarer goods into the markets

Quaero
05-10-2012, 07:49 PM
If they could keep up with 10 million players, besides these already exist, fusing the AH will just make it harder for them to do it.

You don't understand.

The top AH magnates are people in business or economics, and they like to control the market because they can. And currently, most of them think it's child play.

Merge the AH's and it will be a literal bloodbath of players trying to boost their auctioneer EPEEN by attempting to seize control of the new global market.

Garotar
05-10-2012, 08:11 PM
RP realms are confusing.

One of the best thing about RP server communities is that the community is their own worst enemy.

Omacron
05-10-2012, 08:16 PM
One of the best thing about RP server communities is that the community is their own worst enemy.

I've always had the strangest relationship with my RP server communities. They universally recognize me as an expert on lore and I'm often pulled in to settle lore debates, in-character and out, but people also realize that my knowledge of lore leads to me invariably introducing concepts into their plots that would ruin their view of the setting so I'm never invited to any RP events any more.

C9H20
05-10-2012, 08:17 PM
Then we would have cartels of people controlling the market together.

I am actually thinking of reaching out to other major JC's of the server and forming a Cartel to artificially inflate prices on our server.

Considering there are so few of us, it should be easy and lucrative.

Garotar
05-10-2012, 08:30 PM
I've always had the strangest relationship with my RP server communities. They universally recognize me as an expert on lore and I'm often pulled in to settle lore debates, in-character and out, but people also realize that my knowledge of lore leads to me invariably introducing concepts into their plots that would ruin their view of the setting so I'm never invited to any RP events any more.

I tend to be the wallflower, not overly getting involved. But yeah, RP communities tend to be made up of the die hard lore fans who think that any little deviation from their perception of lore is wrong, the more flexible people who just want characters that fit even if they are a little odd, and those who just want to do anything they want. And all these can coexist peacefully as long as the various groups don't try to impose their views on others, which of course never happens.

This is ignoring the other group of the RP community who thinks that raiding is wrong in all forms, and if you want to raid you should do so on a PvE server. I have a friend who managed to get the Mimron's Head mount when she was a hardcore raider on another server who got told to stop showing off when she transferred to WrA to have a more casual experience.

DreamingGod
05-10-2012, 08:36 PM
I've always had the strangest relationship with my RP server communities. They universally recognize me as an expert on lore and I'm often pulled in to settle lore debates, in-character and out, but people also realize that my knowledge of lore leads to me invariably introducing concepts into their plots that would ruin their view of the setting so I'm never invited to any RP events any more.

^ Pretty much this for me. I have my friends who agree with me, and want to be accurate, but pretty much everyone else will avoid discussing topics with me that destroys their world view. >.>

Porimlys
05-10-2012, 08:38 PM
I play on my RP realm character about once a month. Dorf rogue, still not even level 60.

Omacron
05-10-2012, 08:41 PM
I tend to be the wallflower, not overly getting involved. But yeah, RP communities tend to be made up of the die hard lore fans who think that any little deviation from their perception of lore is wrong, the more flexible people who just want characters that fit even if they are a little odd, and those who just want to do anything they want. And all these can coexist peacefully as long as the various groups don't try to impose their views on others, which of course never happens.

This is ignoring the other group of the RP community who thinks that raiding is wrong in all forms, and if you want to raid you should do so on a PvE server. I have a friend who managed to get the Mimron's Head mount when she was a hardcore raider on another server who got told to stop showing off when she transferred to WrA to have a more casual experience.

Actually, I find RP communities more often than not don't know much about lore outside of the small bubble that their character or guild usually involves itself in. A person in a night elf sentinel guild, for instance, is very well versed in night elf lore as it existed during WCIII or Vanilla WoW but is not only ignorant of the lore of other races, but the development of the race hence. Similarly, someone in a Horde Orc Military guild is probably very well versed in the lore of Garrosh's administration and maybe Thrall's Horde, but probably didn't play the first two WC games and doesn't know much about them. It's me who usually comes into the conversation, and having my main character be a 10,000 year old academic, educates them and usually ends up being shoo'd away when they realize that they could not adapt their idea to the whole world of Azeroth at large.

DreamingGod
05-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Actually, I find RP communities more often than not don't know much about lore outside of the small bubble that their character or guild usually involves itself in. A person in a night elf sentinel guild, for instance, is very well versed in night elf lore as it existed during WCIII or Vanilla WoW but is not only ignorant of the lore of other races, but the development of the race hence. Similarly, someone in a Horde Orc Military guild is probably very well versed in the lore of Garrosh's administration and maybe Thrall's Horde, but probably didn't play the first two WC games and doesn't know much about them. It's me who usually comes into the conversation, and having my main character be a 10,000 year old academic, educates them and usually ends up being shoo'd away when they realize that they could not adapt their idea to the whole world of Azeroth at large.

I find things how Oma describes. People learn about their specifics, and usually include fanon that they like, and get pissy when you pop the bubble.

There are few large picture viewers in RP. Which, sometimes, helps with the realism.... as long as they can admit to them not knowing, and play it off ICly.

This is why I play a Loremaster Highborne, or a very, very old draenei DK.

Omacron
05-10-2012, 08:47 PM
This is why I play a Loremaster Highborne, or a very, very old draenei DK.

That's actually both of my characters. Omacron is an ethnic highborne who spent most of his life in exile with Goblins and while his area of expertise is biology, his background gives him a reason to be very interested in politics as well, and my DK is an orc who would be pushing 100 if he was biologically alive, who's fascinated by psychology and comparative cultural studies and routinely communicates with the dead to gain an understanding of a zeitgeist in a particular culture's point in time. Between the two of them and their areas of expertise I have IC justification to stop any lore argument.

Millenia
05-10-2012, 08:50 PM
Except draenei lore!

(... which doesn't matter since they don't really have much lore before Draenor.)

DreamingGod
05-10-2012, 08:52 PM
That's actually both of my characters. Omacron is an ethnic highborne who spent most of his life in exile with Goblins and while his area of expertise is biology, his background gives him a reason to be very interested in politics as well, and my DK is an orc who would be pushing 100 if he was biologically alive, who's fascinated by psychology and comparative cultural studies and routinely communicates with the dead to gain an understanding of a zeitgeist in a particular culture's point in time. Between the two of them and their areas of expertise I have IC justification to stop any lore argument.

Kelidorn, who is an old Highborne, who left Eldre'thalas when they started summoning demons. He wandered, and learned for many years.

Zhuratul, a draenei born after Argus, but long before Draeneor, he learned much of Azeroth when he landed, and eventually got killed by Scourge, and was raised.

But that's cool, I like Oma being an ethnic Highborne.... when you're on next, we should RP.

Garotar
05-10-2012, 08:54 PM
Actually, I find RP communities more often than not don't know much about lore outside of the small bubble that their character or guild usually involves itself in. A person in a night elf sentinel guild, for instance, is very well versed in night elf lore as it existed during WCIII or Vanilla WoW but is not only ignorant of the lore of other races, but the development of the race hence. Similarly, someone in a Horde Orc Military guild is probably very well versed in the lore of Garrosh's administration and maybe Thrall's Horde, but probably didn't play the first two WC games and doesn't know much about them. It's me who usually comes into the conversation, and having my main character be a 10,000 year old academic, educates them and usually ends up being shoo'd away when they realize that they could not adapt their idea to the whole world of Azeroth at large.

True. That would encompass a couple of the groups I was thinking about, and is probably more accurate now that I think about it.

But there's also some really wacky things I've seen that have 0 basis in Warcraft lore as shown in any Warcraft game.

Porimlys
05-10-2012, 08:54 PM
Except draenei lore!

(... which doesn't matter since they don't really have much lore before Draenor.)

After seeing the back writing they've done for Pandaria, I'm eager to see what they come up with when we inevitably go to Argus. Should be good.

Jungleluke
05-10-2012, 10:38 PM
As long as there is no competition for me to get the reins of poseidus, I am fine.

AndyJP
05-10-2012, 11:05 PM
It's going to be great for when MoP comes out, as it can lessen the swarms of people in Pandaria, and PVPers will love it. I don't see any other real benefits. You have more opportunity to make friends with WoW strangers, I guess? The problem with questing with friends is that you both have to be online at the same time, or one is going to fall behind in the quest progression. There aren't enough group quests anymore to warrant group questing and they typically give trivial rewards compared to dungeon drops. It's just going to end up creating an unnecessary queue for quest targets like there used to be and more competition for resources. It doesn't really feel like a feature that is worth it.

Millenia
05-10-2012, 11:17 PM
It only affects low population zones, dude, not everything.

Leviathon
05-10-2012, 11:45 PM
It only affects low population zones, dude, not everything.

You missed this part:

With this technology, we can also flag zones to allow for more than one copy of that zone per realm. Players on that realm will be split among those copies in order to alleviate problems due to overpopulation. Players won’t normally see or interact with those on a different instance of their zone, although joining a party will relocate all party members to a single instance of that zone.

It also affects low pop zones in general.

Sa'danak
05-11-2012, 12:32 AM
This is VERY good news. It's a damn shame they removed group quests though, this would be the perfect time to bring them back.

Omacron
05-11-2012, 12:41 AM
You missed this part:



It also affects low pop zones in general.

Let's be realistic: the only time they'd ever have to flag a zone is during an expansion's launch when people swarm the start zones (So in this case, Wandering Isle and Jade Forest), and maaaaybe the first few weeks after a patch in a zone that has a new daily hub. After a month it'll be a non issue.

Leviathon
05-11-2012, 01:12 AM
Let's be realistic: the only time they'd ever have to flag a zone is during an expansion's launch when people swarm the start zones (So in this case, Wandering Isle and Jade Forest), and maaaaybe the first few weeks after a patch in a zone that has a new daily hub. After a month it'll be a non issue.

So? It's great nonetheless.

Omacron
05-11-2012, 01:20 AM
So? It's great nonetheless.

I was supporting the fact that it's great, some people are butthurt about it for some reason

Sa'danak
05-11-2012, 01:23 AM
I was supporting the fact that it's great, some people are butthurt about it for some reason
I think they're reasoning is that it was poorly used in other mmo's. Rift in particular had a huge problem with people all going to seperate "channels" so people were never involved with each other. Made the world feel very empty.

This is under Blizzards control though so I hardly see the issues potential in Wow.

tl:dr: Idiots assuming the worst.

ARM3481
05-11-2012, 01:27 AM
I wonder if the ability to distribute players to instanced "copies" of zones could lead to an eventual end to the dual-entry-level zones they've utilized since WotLK. If they can use an instancing mechanism to temporarily split the localized players and thereby lessen overpopulation-based performance issues, they might theoretically go back to funneling everyone through a single starter zone again like we had back in Hellfire Peninsula instead of providing two same-level zones at the start to spread us out during the early expansion rush.

Sa'danak
05-11-2012, 01:30 AM
I wonder if the ability to distribute players to instanced "copies" of zones could lead to an eventual end to the dual-entry-level zones they've utilized since WotLK. If they can use an instancing mechanism to temporarily split the localized players and thereby lessen overpopulation-based performance issues, they might theoretically go back to funneling everyone through a single starter zone again like we had back in Hellfire Peninsula instead of providing two same-level zones at the start to spread us out during the early expansion rush.
Potential is there but (forgive my lack of servor expertise) wouldn't that put great strain on the servers?

If not then this could also alleviate issues like Toc being forced to be in Icecrowne because of Dalarans server strain.

ARM3481
05-11-2012, 01:34 AM
Potential is there but (forgive my lack of servor expertise) wouldn't that put great strain on the servers?

If not then this could also alleviate issues like Toc being forced to be in Icecrowne because of Dalarans server strain.

Well, they do specifically cite one of the functions being the alleviation of zone overpopulation problems. It isn't exactly made clear whether that's simply a reference to player numbers in new zones overwhelming mob and quest objective spawns, or if it also includes the performance issues that stem from so many people being in one zone at the same time.

Volkrin
05-11-2012, 01:37 AM
There's more reason to keep the dual starter zones than just server load. They provide for variety when leveling alts too, which is really nice when you're going through a given range for the umpteenth time.

RobLore
05-11-2012, 01:42 AM
but Jade Forest is already the only entry zone in MoP?

Leviathon
05-11-2012, 01:45 AM
We get choices later in questing with Valley/Krasarang and Townlong/Dread Wastes. Every zone has tons of optional quests as well.

AndyJP
05-11-2012, 03:32 AM
There's more reason to keep the dual starter zones than just server load. They provide for variety when leveling alts too, which is really nice when you're going through a given range for the umpteenth time.

Volkrin! YES! I loved that in Wrath I could do different zones than I did with the last toon I played through it with. Cata failed to include a second 84-85 zone, though.

Volkrin
05-11-2012, 03:39 AM
Volkrin! YES! I loved that in Wrath I could do different zones than I did with the last toon I played through it with. Cata failed to include a second 84-85 zone, though.

Tell me about it. I can't stand going through Deepholm. Admittedly that's primarily because my lung imploded the night that zone was released on the alpha and I still can't do the Alliance airship quests without my chest aching, but whatever the reason choice would be nice.

Rotal
05-11-2012, 03:46 AM
Volkrin! YES! I loved that in Wrath I could do different zones than I did with the last toon I played through it with. Cata failed to include a second 84-85 zone, though.

Nope. It's called Uldum. If you do all zones before it you're 85 LONG before you even finish the Rammelkatzen-questline.

Millenia
05-11-2012, 07:16 AM
Well, far as I understand, there's only one entry zone in Pandaria, no? Or, at least you're shunted to one zone, and have to trek your way to the other if you want an alternative path. right?

AndyJP
05-11-2012, 01:08 PM
Nope. It's called Uldum. If you do all zones before it you're 85 LONG before you even finish the Rammelkatzen-questline.

You misunderstand. It has always taken three zones for me to get to 85. Cataclysm only includes five new leveling zones. Leveling with two characters, I'm going to have to repeat a zone.