View Full Version : WoW Comic #22 release - *spoilers*
1. Is it finally safe to assume at this point that the old god that Cho'gall follows is not Cthun?
2. Blizz is a tease for making us think thrall would be in the council initially.
3. Cho'gall says that Medan's death will discharge his energy enough to burst his master's chains... cataclysm? Perhaps discharge related to death of malygos affecting the arcane side of medan's abilities?
4. Medivh?! Do you think we've already entered karazhan in this timeline or if medan's venturing there will be the equivalent?
Ded Chikn
08-19-2009, 05:44 PM
4. Medivh?! Do you think we've already entered karazhan in this timeline or if medan's venturing there will be the equivalent?
If Medan fights The Prince and gets one shot by a bugged out thrash, Ill laugh for days.
Warlock
08-19-2009, 05:48 PM
Some highlights:
New Council Members:
-Rehgar (Shaman)
-Maarad (Paladin)
Upcoming Council Members (that is, look for them to join in the next couple issues):
-Khadgar or someone from Shattrath ("Divine" magic)
-Rohan (Ironforge Priest Trainer)
-Krank (only described as a Gnomish Inventor - maybe they are also including technology?)
-Hamuul Runetotem (Druid)
-Cho'gall sends a giant Faceless One to Theramore. He was winning until Meryl agreed to let the demon inside him use its power (Meryl is "still in control" though). I have a feeling this is a step towards bringing him in line with the action figure - Meryl Felstorm (http://www.dccomics.com/dcunlimited/wow/?dcd=7077).
-Med'an destroys it with a combination Arcane and Shamanistic Fireball spell. He then heals Veleera with a combo Paladin/Shaman healing spell.
-Everyone agrees to have Med'an travel to Outland with Maarad (he was going to see Khadgar) since it would be much safer there (no Old Gods and whatnot).
-At the end, Med'an has a vision of Medivh who tells him he is his father and to come to Karazhan.
Nathanyel
08-19-2009, 05:50 PM
Some highlights:
New Council Members:
-Rehgar (Shaman)
-Maarad (Paladin)
Upcoming Council Members (that is, look for them to join in the next couple issues):
-Khadgar or someone from Shattrath ("Divine" magic)
-Rohan (Ironforge Priest Trainer)
-Krank (only described as a Gnomish Inventor - maybe they are also including technology?)
-Hamuul Runetotem (Druid)
Requesting permission to quote this on every goddamn thread claiming Thrall would be the new Guardian.
Cantus
08-19-2009, 06:01 PM
Requesting permission to quote this on every goddamn thread claiming Thrall would be the new Guardian.
Request denied, link to it via a giant obnoxious wall of text that shows just how many people need to stop believing random things they hear on the internet.
Wait, on second thought, how about we send this to Bubouille so he can debunk this stuff himself (instead of continuing to foster it despite numerous threads showing the idea's absurdity, unlikelihood, and outright lies as revealed by Rob.)
engal
08-19-2009, 06:46 PM
So the druid is not broll?
Deemo
08-19-2009, 07:19 PM
-Has to-
So, Thrall's not the Guardian?
/duck, escape, and evade
Warlock
08-19-2009, 07:38 PM
So the druid is not broll?
They might get Broll later, but they specifically mention he is busy right now and probably wouldn't be available. When Jaina goes to talk with Thrall, he suggests Hamuul. Valeera and Reghar are going to go talk to him, probably next issue.
BaskinRidge
08-19-2009, 08:15 PM
-Rohan (Ironforge Priest Trainer)
-Krank (only described as a Gnomish Inventor - maybe they are also including technology?)
Just a little side note here, Meryl is the one who recommends his friend Rohan, and will go visit him in Ironforge. Aegwynn suggests Krank's father Thunker first, but hears from Meryl that he fell in Gnomeregan. Thats when Meryl suggest talking to Krank when he goes for Rohan.
As long as Meryl doesn't pull his famous "The Scourge are coming!!!" and then pop out of the shadows stunt, he should be fine in IF.
Interesting issue, some bad art here and there but overall it was nice to see Rehgar join already, and Thrall really put it the best, He said he would love to join the council but he needs to prepare for war, as he is the Warchief, he would never abondon the Horde for the council, so yeah go Walt!
Oh yeah, Cho'gall keeps further mutating. (http://i28.tinypic.com/2iho13l.jpg) =S The last council members join in the issue #24 so i guess thats when we get the Dwarf, Blood elf and whatnot others to join the party. :)
AndyJP
08-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Cho'gall kind of looks like a Gronn there. And Outland is "safer", that just sounds odd. It will be cool if we get to see what has become of it since the Burning Crusade, if not then at least maybe we will find out what Khadgar has been up to. I hope Med'an visits Griftah and buys a tikbalang ward.
Curll
08-20-2009, 03:25 AM
Cho'gall kind of looks like a Gronn there. And Outland is "safer", that just sounds odd. It will be cool if we get to see what has become of it since the Burning Crusade, if not then at least maybe we will find out what Khadgar has been up to. I hope Med'an visits Griftah and buys a tikbalang ward.
By the time the betrayer and legeon had failed, the Outland is at peace again.
And I wonder why they want to invite a gnome engineerer. Or they thought the new guardian must also be a master tinker?
Nathanyel
08-20-2009, 03:33 AM
Request denied, link to it via a giant obnoxious wall of text that shows just how many people need to stop believing random things they hear on the internet.
I'll just quote without linking then.
Cho'gall kind of looks like a Gronn there.
He sure does... maybe just the artist's decision, maybe a hint that Gronn are mutated Ogres, too? After all, we know they're related, and they are kinda demi-gods to the Ogres, so could they be created/influenced by Outland's Old Gods (http://www.wowwiki.com/Ancient_and_powerful_evil)? Also let's not forget Anzu's involvement with the Emerald Dream - unless Outland has its own Dream, the Dream could actually be a connection between all habitable worlds (created by the Titans, or by nature itself when the Old Gods infested the real worlds?)
Just an early morning train of thought :P
SomeRandomEvilGuy
08-20-2009, 03:36 AM
And I wonder why they want to invite a gnome engineerer. Or they thought the new guardian must also be a master tinker?
My theory is that they want every race present in the council. I'm just waiting for a troll Witch Doctor or Shadow Hunter to join. Naturally Med'an will learn it exceptionally quickly. Hell, at this rate he's going to become more powerful than Old God's and Sargeras.
Atomic_Piggy
08-20-2009, 04:01 AM
The Forgotten One was seriously badass, though kinda random that it comes from the bottom of the sea, but aw well.
Nathanyel
08-20-2009, 04:32 AM
The Forgotten One was seriously badass, though kinda random that it comes from the bottom of the sea, but aw well.
Since Yogg-Saron looks like a frog (http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=96599.0), why can't they be amphibic? After all, the Old Gods corrupted the Highborne into Naga when their city sank to the bottom of the sea, and it has been hinted the Murlocs were their minions even before these events.
engal
08-20-2009, 04:50 AM
Since Yogg-Saron looks like a frog (http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=96599.0), why can't they be amphibic? After all, the Old Gods corrupted the Highborne into Naga when their city sank to the bottom of the sea, and it has been hinted the Murlocs were their minions even before these events.
Mmm no technically their minions in fact, from what I did understand, Murlocs are fish that mutated and were then enslaved by the nagas ( they were the nagas peon in Warcraft III) and the little article of blizzard on the murloc said that they were fleeing the depth, mainly IMO because naga were using them as slaves or killing them
Vicious
08-20-2009, 06:28 AM
Damn, who crowned Rehgar king of the shamans?
The guy starts has a gladiator master then he personally knows the Tauren druid bigshots THEN he gets promoted has Thrall's advisor out of nowhere and now he gets to be a council member?
I'm feeling a mix of outrage and fear.
Nathanyel
08-20-2009, 06:58 AM
The guy starts has a gladiator master then he personally knows the Tauren druid bigshots THEN he gets promoted has Thrall's advisor out of nowhere and now he gets to be a council member?
It's not that well-explained in the comic, but back then in Thunder Bluff, he recognized the feather Hamuul gave Broll at least as something that would help them escape, but did nothing to prevent this. The team's fights at Dire Maul made him "filthy rich" anyway. Their escape, and maybe the realization that they'd do "greater" things as free people, triggered a change of thoughts in Rehgar, he gave up the gladiator business to become involved with, well, politics. Thrall noticed his experience (probably knew him before then) and gave him that advisor job. That he comes along to Theramore either is a plot device to bring him back into the story, or a hint that the Horde has enough informants to know about Lo'gosh's true identity by now.
Meanmug
08-20-2009, 07:32 AM
so as of #22, who are all the known members of the council?
spidey1980
08-20-2009, 07:35 AM
Meryl, Jaina, Maraad, Rehgar. Not sure about Aegwynn though. I guess they still need to be a bit heavy on the mageside because of that ritual.
RobLore
08-20-2009, 07:40 AM
Can someone post a picture of the aquatic faceless dude?
spidey1980
08-20-2009, 07:45 AM
There's nothing aquatic about it as it's just an ordinary Faceless One, designwise.
Think Herold Volazj and all the others.
engal
08-20-2009, 07:49 AM
There's nothing aquatic about it as it's just an ordinary Faceless One, designwise.
Think Herold Volazj and all the others.
They're also doing recycling stuff in the comics now? xD *go away very fast*
Yogg-Saron
08-20-2009, 08:06 AM
So much for Guardian Thrall.
"lol i have a war"
engal
08-20-2009, 08:24 AM
So much for Guardian Thrall.
"lol i have a war"
Well there is still Hope.. *hem* despair, sorry, if something Happen to Med'an and if the war is over with the Lich King, this Lorelol could still happen, even if the odd are shrinking
Yogg-Saron
08-20-2009, 08:27 AM
Well there is still Hope.. *hem* despair, sorry, if something Happen to Med'an and if the war is over with the Lich King, this Lorelol could still happen, even if the odd are shrinking
Thrall is not even in the Council. Anyone is better suited to become a Guardian than him.
engal
08-20-2009, 08:27 AM
Thrall is not even in the Council. Anyone is better suited to become a Guardian than him.
I hope you're right.
So much for Guardian Thrall.
"lol i have a war"
Not necessarily true. Bear in mind that the "spoilers" have him doing the Guardian thing in the expansion. The war in Northrend will presumably be over by then.
Not precisely advocating it, but from the standpoint of what MMOC was purporting it's easy to see him leaving Cairne in charge of the Horde while he goes to work with the Council on issues after the Cataclysm only to have Cairne get bumped off by Garrosh under false pretenses and have him take control.
The comic is still a ways out from the events of the expansion, pretty much all we know at this point is that if Thrall didn't have to deal with Northrend, he'd be on the Council in a red-hot second. Remove the war and add in the impetus of the Cataclysm and voila, Jaina gets her wish.
Not necessarily true. Bear in mind that the "spoilers" have him doing the Guardian thing in the expansion. The war in Northrend will presumably be over by then.
Not precisely advocating it, but from the standpoint of what MMOC was purporting it's easy to see him leaving Cairne in charge of the Horde while he goes to work with the Council on issues after the Cataclysm only to have Cairne get bumped off by Garrosh under false pretenses and have him take control.
The comic is still a ways out from the events of the expansion, pretty much all we know at this point is that if Thrall didn't have to deal with Northrend, he'd be on the Council in a red-hot second. Remove the war and add in the impetus of the Cataclysm and voila, Jaina gets her wish.
But the rumour had Thrall becoming a guardian and letting Garrosh handle the war... So no, Thrall knows he has to handle these things or yeah. It's either him being the messiah of the council thru stupid rumours, or being the messiah of the Horde as he IS in the lore.
Bolvar
08-20-2009, 09:34 AM
-Everyone agrees to have Med'an travel to Outland with Maarad (he was going to see Khadgar) since it would be much safer there (no Old Gods and whatnot).
-At the end, Med'an has a vision of Medivh who tells him he is his father and to come to Karazhan.
No, no, no. Red text is all wrong.
Everyone knows Khadgar starts the Karazhan attunement quest. And the key fragments are in Outland dungeons. Duh.
Med'an need a group for Steamvaults, Shadow Labyrinth, and Arcatraz. Then he gets to go see his old man in the Caverns of Time.
THEN he'll go farm Karazhan a few weeks, until Light's Justice drops for him.
But the rumour had Thrall becoming a guardian and letting Garrosh handle the war
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight.
Says nothing about the war in Northrend.
Keep in mind I'm playing Devil's Advocate here.
Eh so the leak says there will be new Wintergrasp holds but the two factions aren't at war in lore? Blizzard made the factions to war for a good reason, both lore, the playerbase and gameplay wise. Just further showing how much a piece of shit that thing is. =p
Eh so the leak says there will be new Wintergrasp holds but the two factions aren't at war in lore?
whut
Where are you reading this? :confused:
I'm talking about the SA post.
Foppish
08-20-2009, 01:59 PM
Cho'gall kind of looks like a Gronn there. And Outland is "safer", that just sounds odd. It will be cool if we get to see what has become of it since the Burning Crusade, if not then at least maybe we will find out what Khadgar has been up to. I hope Med'an visits Griftah and buys a tikbalang ward.
I think what they meant by Outlands being "safer" is the fact that it's not Azeroth, so Med'an would possibly be beyond the whispers of C'thun and other Old God minions.
As for a Gnome engineer joining the council, perhaps they wanted to get someone on the council who was an analytic thinker who wasn't necessarily a magic user? You know, an outsider's point of view. Or maybe they just want him on the council for comic relief? Every group has to have "that guy", y'know the one that everyone makes fun of behind his back?
Exxile87
08-20-2009, 02:11 PM
I think what they meant by Outlands being "safer" is the fact that it's not Azeroth, so Med'an would possibly be beyond the whispers of C'thun and other Old God minions.
As for a Gnome engineer joining the council, perhaps they wanted to get someone on the council who was an analytic thinker who wasn't necessarily a magic user? You know, an outsider's point of view. Or maybe they just want him on the council for comic relief? Every group has to have "that guy", y'know the one that everyone makes fun of behind his back?
So Krank is gonna be that group's "Karen"?
I think what they meant by Outlands being "safer" is the fact that it's not Azeroth, so Med'an would possibly be beyond the whispers of C'thun and other Old God minions.
As for a Gnome engineer joining the council, perhaps they wanted to get someone on the council who was an analytic thinker who wasn't necessarily a magic user? You know, an outsider's point of view. Or maybe they just want him on the council for comic relief? Every group has to have "that guy", y'know the one that everyone makes fun of behind his back?
Well we've seen the power of technology through Ulduar, and with the boundary between magic and technology being somewhat tenuous in Warcraft, an engineer wouldn't be out of place in this council.
As for Med'an being safer in Outland, their logic is clear. However, as another poster stated, old gods seem to have some influence in outland (not necessary the same ones from azeroth or even the same breed) but the arakoa's attempt to summon one raises some questions if its possible to be completely safe from their influence.
Gurtogg_Bloodboil
08-20-2009, 02:43 PM
And Outland is "safer", that just sounds odd.
Safer from the specific threat of the Old Gods and Twilight’s Hammer. Also, if he’s going to Shattrath they have (or had) A’dal protecting the place.
Damn, who crowned Rehgar king of the shamans?
The guy starts has a gladiator master then he personally knows the Tauren druid bigshots THEN he gets promoted has Thrall's advisor out of nowhere and now he gets to be a council member?
I'm feeling a mix of outrage and fear.
Well, technically he started as a Gladiator himself from childhood, then a gladiator master. He said he followed Thrall’s lead to Shamanism when Thrall began to revive it and before the orcs traveled to Durotar, so he might be one of the earlier non-frostwolf Shamans in the Horde. He probably had a pre-existing relationship with Thrall to be able to become an advisor, and you can’t deny though he was a pretty good advisor. He seemed to advocate the approach most people on these forums support. Besides Drek’thar and Thrall himself, is there even another prominent Horde Shaman to fill the roll?
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight.
Says nothing about the war in Northrend.
So Thrall is going to coordinate the Horde and Alliance, and his first step is to abdicate his position as leader of the Horde and hand it to the one guy who most certainly will (and does according to the other “spoilers”) escalate the war with the alliance? Its inconsistent even in its own few blurbs.
And seriously, I hope this quells all the people who got their “sweet revenge” when Jaina name-dropped Thrall in the preview. Looks like he did send Rehgar in his place, who could have predicted??? And why? Because leading the Horde is more important than the Council. Actual evidence > sourceless rumors.
Lowtide
08-20-2009, 02:48 PM
So Krank is gonna be that group's "Karen"?
Q!
http://www.bondmovies.com/allies/q2.jpg
Aaah, yes Mr Med'an, here's your all new and improved platin armored Gryphon. Of course it comes with several gadgets like Holy Light floodlights, illuminating even the dreadest of night, steel disk throwers in its maw, to feed your enemy ... well let's not go there, rearside Arcane Missles, don't ask where they come from, it's magic, Frost Shock bombs and of course a fold-out divan to ... well whatever you prophecied super powerful kids do with the girls you save from the clutches of insanity and death.
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