The new Human Starting experience

[Shadowsong]

I've decided to make a post about this since... I don't think anyone has yet from what i've seen here on the past few weeks, sorry if someone already has.

What I've noticed right away is that, unlike before in beta, Varian no longer greets you with his royal guard. Whether this is a bug of the latest patch or intended I am not sure.

Also, I am not familiar with the quests for the humans in beta before since I did not really play them that much, but I think they changed it. The first quest is to kill battleworgs of the Orcs instead of diseased wolves.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/170/93684490.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/93684490.jpg/)


Second quest is pretty straight forward, kill orc spies.
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3306/50372486.th.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/50372486.jpg/)


For those of you who wanted to see the human hunter quest at the start and the notes that give that little class lore, which I personally love.
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9091/39447938.th.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/39447938.jpg/)


After doing your class quest to spam a spell on a dummy you are sent to this guy
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9915/92521591.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/i/92521591.jpg/)


This part had me shocked, all those little guys around the abbey looked like kobalds from afar so I did not bother looking at them, but it turns out they are goblin spies hired by the Blackrock orcs.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4240/58188427.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/58188427.jpg/)

At the same time one of the priest NPCs sends you to heal NPCs that had been ambushed by the rogue assassins.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2222/44841815.th.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/44841815.jpg/)


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This part I know for sure was earlier in beta due to it being so noticeable:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7608/52760776.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/i/52760776.jpg/)

Milly sends me to extinguish the flames in hope that the lands can be recovered eventually:

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2060/46715464.th.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/46715464.jpg/)

Simple kill the leader of the enemies quest
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7272/82637886.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/82637886.jpg/)

This area looked very nice and threatening for a low level zone
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4445/17123475.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/17123475.jpg/)


The letter the the Marshal writes for you to send to Goldshire is updated:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2883/97805545.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/97805545.jpg/)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4803/14193952.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/14193952.jpg/)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4757/70986829.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/i/70986829.jpg/)


I also stopped by the house at the inn. The Goldshire kids are gone ... :confused: but to where...

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3555/19445484.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/19445484.jpg/)

Also I noticed this also when leveling in Teldrassil, there is a NPC who trains all professions, not sure if this is just for the beta but so far i've only seen them in the second town of each starting zone.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3870/59482975.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/59482975.jpg/)

I end it here, I will continue again whenever I get the time.

[Vineyard]

Thanks for sharing.

So the Forsaken starting zone isn't the only one, which got another update. Night Elves might be the next.

[Aldrius]

Ah, doesn't sound the same from what I've heard about the human starting experience.

So it's not just Deathknell that they made so many changes to.

[Lon-ami]

Very nice, thanks for sharing.

And yeah, seems more starting ones are being changed...

[Emojomaker]

Ty for all the info :D

[Shadowsong]

Northshire was a huge improvement from it used to be and had a better variety of mobs. Killing 3 different types of Kobolds in a row wasn't exactly fun.

Also for those wondering what hapened to the echo ridge mine:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2852/wowscrnshot091910171647.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot091910171647.jpg/)

Im gonna start updating now as I level in Goldshire.

[Joshmaul]

They closed off Echo Ridge, eh? Did they say why?

[Shadowsong]

They closed off Echo Ridge, eh? Did they say why?
Well in the screenshot of the letter in my first post says the kobalds were chased off by the orcs. Who closed the mine and why I cannot say.

Also so far the quests in Goldshire seem the same with going to fargodeep as well as the farm quests. The only things different is that princess is right at the farm and Goldtooth is outside the mine in his own camp:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1200/87340421.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/87340421.jpg/)

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/269/45946026.th.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/45946026.jpg/)

When handing in one of the Fargodeep quests I thought it was funny and out-dated that the quest giver says "what's next, Dragons?!?
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2006/47646446.th.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/47646446.jpg/)

The quest after it has been updated, he lends you a charger to ride to guard Thomas, which was a very welcome change:
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/493/73377640.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/73377640.jpg/)

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3205/70896269.th.jpg (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/70896269.jpg/)

The quests Guard Thomas give are the same but there is this new board that gives a couple of new quests now:
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http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5466/94957968.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/i/94957968.jpg/)

What I've noticed in caves now is that there is a second tunnel now connecting to the end, which when you've level nearly 10 characters to 80, is a nice change to see while questing.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/119/75638085.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/75638085.jpg/)

The ring drops off James Clark that leads to the collector quest:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2043/28241107.th.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/28241107.jpg/)

I went to the northern gnoll camp at Stone Cairn lake to see if anything was changed, it hasn't, not even the chest that no one can open.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/539/41132989.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/41132989.jpg/)

Also all defias in the zone have been changed into criminals/bandits/rogue wizards and no longer wear any red bandanas.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3950/77333930.th.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/77333930.jpg/)

This quest shows that the collector was wearing a ring that used to belong to the defias, showing that they are going to make a rise soon, or it could be that he just hangs onto it.
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/282/60950637.th.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/60950637.jpg/)

The quest that leads into Westfall, I may or may not end it after I finish Elwynn Forest since those quests have been seen for quite some time now.
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3876/62996703.th.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/62996703.jpg/)

Done Eastvale, I'll do the quests at Westbrook Garrison tomorrow.

[Reyson]

Personally, I'm quite glad that they removed Varian from the starting area, it seemed out of character and unrealistic for him to be welcoming every new 'guard'(which is what they called you when you started) when they start. With some of his people causing riots and the world being on the brink of destruction, he's got more important matters to attend to, rather than welcoming every scrub that can hold a weapon or cast a spell. If he'ld do something in higher level zones, to the more veteran members of the Alliance, it would be a lot more understandable.

The improvements overall seem quite nice, they really seemed to have listened to the feedback, changing the zone for the better and giving a more imminent sence of danger. It really helps in giving the starting zones a more interesting feel to it, helping the new players get more involved in the game AND the story.

[Genesis]

Northshire was a huge improvement from it used to be and had a better variety of mobs. Killing 3 different types of Kobalds in a row wasn't exactly fun.

Also for those wondering what hapened to the echo ridge mine:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2852/wowscrnshot091910171647.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot091910171647.jpg/)

Im gonna start updating now as I level in Goldshire.That's one way of dealing with kobolds.

[Shadowsong]

The finale for the human starting zone with the epic battle against hogger, towards the end of the fight he tries to eat some of the flesh lying around to regain his health. Once you defeat him, Warden Thelwater is teleported in to arrest hogger.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9391/77604844.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/77604844.jpg/)

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9048/27910799.th.jpg (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/27910799.jpg/)

They also made the Fulbrow deed quest a actual object instead of a low 1% drop that you can miss easily.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1129/63448691.th.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/63448691.jpg/)

Overall the zone was good, but not great. They really cleaned it up so you don't go running back and forth to do quests but I don't they are done adding/changing quests quite yet. The quests in Northshire that were changed were more unique and new and I think they are going to change the rest of Elwynn Forest in a future build.

Also what I found extra funny is that Horatio Lane puts on his sunglasses right before the punchline.
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9751/wowscrnshot092010141253.th.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot092010141253.jpg/)

[Joshmaul]

Also what I found extra funny is that Horatio Lane puts on his sunglasses right before the punchline.

As well he should!

[Aldrius]

Overall the zone was good, but not great. They really cleaned it up so you don't go running back and forth to do quests but I don't they are done adding/changing quests quite yet. The quests in Northshire that were changed were more unique and new and I think they are going to change the rest of Elwynn Forest in a future build.


I don't know. Teldrassil and Mulgore were kinda like that too. Lots of cleaning up, but the skeleton of it was basically the same. (Especially Teldrassil) With one BIG epic quest-line at the end.

Tirisfal as well, except for the architecture changes and the new Lilian Voss quest chain.