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Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-19-2015, 04:02 PM
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Posted By MisterCrow
This is starting to turn into a "First War...

This is starting to turn into a "First War timeline" thread, but hopefully I'll be able to explain why at some point.

So we know that when Khadgar and Lothar go with Garona to Karazhan to kill...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-17-2015, 01:17 PM
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Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
It occurs to me that if you try to make sense of...

It occurs to me that if you try to make sense of the current timeline, Med'an and Thrall are roughly the same age.

... Garona's story is so, so weird.
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-16-2015, 09:35 AM
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Posted By MisterCrow
I'd forgotten about Eitrigg. Hmm....

I'd forgotten about Eitrigg.

Hmm....
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-16-2015, 09:24 AM
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Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
On the topic of Tides of Darkness... are there...

On the topic of Tides of Darkness... are there any named characters who we know were working for Orgrim during the Second War? Brox and Varok are two, for sure, but I'm wondering if there are any...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-15-2015, 08:36 AM
Replies: 44
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Posted By MisterCrow
Yeah, but aside from tussling with the Warsong...

Yeah, but aside from tussling with the Warsong and then joining Ner'zhul, they have no identity, no characters, no purpose.

Honestly, the Burning Blade didn't even have any of that in the Second...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-15-2015, 08:17 AM
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Posted By MisterCrow
Black Tooth Grin was always Rend and Maim's...

Black Tooth Grin was always Rend and Maim's posse. Given how little differentiation the Blackrock got in that respect (did Rend/Maim show up at all?) it makes sense that they wouldn't be involved in...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-14-2015, 09:46 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
Best workaround I can think of is that Blackmoore...

Best workaround I can think of is that Blackmoore wins glory (and/or notoriety) as a minor foreign nobleman who aids Stormwind against the Blackhand Horde. He withdraws before Stormwind is sacked,...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-14-2015, 03:10 PM
Replies: 44
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Posted By MisterCrow
The fact that so much of Garona's story was...

The fact that so much of Garona's story was backfilled in order to service Med'an's origin story is really problematic to play with if you're trying to serve a narrative in the present.

I feel...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-14-2015, 11:30 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
The chief problem with that is Garona abandons a...

The chief problem with that is Garona abandons a squealing baby to the elements. Depending on how much existing continuity you want to preserve, this would be around the same time she abandons her...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-14-2015, 09:39 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
Yeah, Garona basically disappears from the...

Yeah, Garona basically disappears from the narrative for about 20 years with no evident change as a result.
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-14-2015, 08:15 AM
Replies: 44
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Posted By MisterCrow
Is it 100% necessary that Durotan and Draka die...

Is it 100% necessary that Durotan and Draka die at the same time?
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-13-2015, 10:06 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
I don't believe the Frostwolves were mentioned by...

I don't believe the Frostwolves were mentioned by name in WC1, since all the lore background for the Orc Raider was with the Sythegore Arm. Orgrim disbanding that was to distance his horde from...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-13-2015, 03:16 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
... That seems to be a scenario where Thrall is...

... That seems to be a scenario where Thrall is found shortly AFTER the Second War. What I'm suggesting is a scenario where Thrall is found shortly after the FIRST War.
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-13-2015, 11:42 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
I've got a proposal for a new version of these...

I've got a proposal for a new version of these events, but I'm debating if I want to talk about it here or just focus on creating it.

The bottom line is that there's a way to come out of the First...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 04-12-2015, 05:51 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 3,348
Posted By MisterCrow
Shadow Orb When/what did Durotan learn about the Shadow Council?

I realize this might be territory that we've already gone over, but I wanted to review it for a project I'm working on.

Lord of the Clans established that Durotan and the Frostwolves were...
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