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![]() Keeper of the Grove Join Date: Aug 2008
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Nah, not the ones in the new areas (though I'm sure there'll be several), but the Old World, EK/Kalimdor. Are they going to add new factions while levelling, on the model of Tranquilien? Would be awesome. Personally if they add a Theramore Faction, I'm grinding it to exalted on my lock at least.
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![]() Eternal Join Date: Jun 2007
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Probably not while leveling (low level).
I expect the Earthen Ring to be a reputation. |
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![]() Site Staff - Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006
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We'll probably see some changes to already existing factions.
Like Cenarion Circle, AD, etc.
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Tranqullien-esc reputations would be good. As for as normal factions go, I'm betting on Earthen Ring, Tol'vir, and a new Cenarion Circle faction headed by Malfurion.
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![]() Ranger Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Australia
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I would love them to redo the old reps. Make Timbermaw rep a logical progression through Felwood and Winterspring. Make the centaurs like the Wolvar/Oracle. Redo the goblin cartel reps so they are meaningful. And even redo the city reps and provide lower level faction rewards for them, particularly as ther will presumably be new Worgen/Goblin factions. Its probably not going to happen though.
As for new levelling factions, I would love to see the Earthen Ring somewhere. Seeing as how they did nothing with the Explorers League in Wrath, they could start giving it out as rep for quests with Ulduman, Bael'gun etc. as well. Some sort of Stromgarde rep would be cool too, and just for a laugh, I would love them to make a group of neutral Kobolds somewhere you can rep up with ![]() I would also love to see a class specific reputation as well, make Ravenholdt exclusive to Rogues, give druids some sort of Cenarian rep, Mages a dalaran rep of some sort, Warlocks could have some sort of dark arts cult rep somewhere etc. In fact, I would love them to provide much more class specific content in general, as at the moment, apart from a couple of random quests here & there, levelling up as each class is identical. |
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![]() Druid of the Claw Join Date: Aug 2009
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![]() Elune Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Spain
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I would love them to add factions by lore, just because Wildhammers should have their own faction, even if you start exalted with them, I don't care. Just give them a different tag.
Candidates: (in groups by zone) -Wildhammer clan -Revantusk tribe -Theramore Isle -Stonemaul clan (if they still exist xD) -Stromgarde (or expand League of Arathor to the other NPCs) -Alliance Dalaran (proper factions for the Alliance-aligned Dalaran mages, or just add them to the Silver Covenant) -Silvermoon Remnant (a faction for all those high elves at the 3 lodges, or just add them to the Silver Covenant) It just bothers me, lore-wise, that you must get rep with the army of your faction, but don't with other minor factions. Also, I think that there should be a logical progression when an organization has more than one faction. For example, someone with exalted with Scale of Sands still gets attacked by Anachronos; that just sucks. Some rep should be used with later factions as a plus. For example, having a good rep with Violet Eye should give you some extra when going back to Dalaran. Things like that, like a "global rep increase". They could have groups of factions, that, until a certain level, get shared rep points, so it makes sense.
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![]() Eternal Join Date: Jun 2009
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I want a Tranquillien style rep in Westfall.
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![]() Arch-Druid Join Date: Mar 2009
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It would be cool to have Tranquillien-styled factions for most questing areas, so instead of having a good reward at the end of your questing in a zone, you get access to buying something cool.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Jul 2007
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Yeah, the Wedtfall Brigade could have a good part there.
What I'd love to see is faction progression. Translated: You rep with some guys, and then leave for new lands. Later, you arrive to other new lands, and find those guys again, with a different level. You should, somehow, keep the reputation from before, as an extra. It would help avoid stuff like angry Anachronos. That, or groupal faction reputation, so if you get exalted with a faction of the group, the other factions get neutral automatically.
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![]() Eternal Join Date: Jun 2007
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If they do introduce lower level reputations then I hope that reputation will spread out through multiple zones and levels.
Lets say you could get rep with the Stormwind Militia in Cataclysm. In Elwynn, you would get to friendly with level 6-12 rewards. In Westfall you would be able to reach honored with them and purchase level 12-20 rewards. And in Redridge you would reach Revered and in Duskwood Exalted etc. WotLK had four major neutral reputations. Ebon Blade (hero class) Kirin Tor Argent Crusade Wyrmrest And 4 Horde/Alliance mini-reputations that were linked into one major reputation. We also had Sunreavers/Silver Convenant. Then we had 3/4 minor neutral reputations (not including Ashen Verdict). Kalu'ak Sons of Hodir Frenzyheart Tribe/Oracles If we go by the WotLK concept then I could see the four major neutral factions (based on the Cataclysm zones) be. However, with so few zones it seems to be that its more likely that all zones will have one reputation each. * Red Dragonflight. With Grim Batol (dungeon, raid and zone) and Deathwing, I expect us to gain some reputation with the Reds. * Earthen. Looking at the Deepholm map, there is both an Earthen town and an Earthen outpost. Earthen Ring could be included. * Renegade Naga or Makrura. They fit with Abyssal Maw. Or maybe some neutral Goblin cartel since there are Underwater Domes with Towns in them in the Abyssal Maw. * Tol'vir. The majority of them will probably be enemies but perhaps there are some friendly ones. They were the only ones I could come up with for Uldum. * Cenarion Circle 2.0. Cenarion Circle 2.0 makes most sense for the Hyjal zone in my opinion. And with the Nightmare stuff. So for the neutral reputations I would say: Red Dragonflight, Earthen (maybe Earthen Ring will be included), Tol'vir, Cenarion Circle 2.0 and neutral Naga or Makrura. Cataclysm will for sure have a lot of Alliance VS Horde focus. But the Taunka and Frostborn etc reputation in WotLK felt very useless so I would say that most Horde/Alliance reputations would be in the old world zones and when leveling up. The Warsong Offensive in Cataclysm will probably be even more related to the new more brutal Horde. The Fist of Orgrimmar. For Alliance I dunno. Probably just something warlike like the "Alliance Forces" or something. So in Cataclysm there would only be one nationalistic Horde/Alliance reputation. I call them the Fist of Orgrimmar and the Alliance Forces. I expect something similar to the Aldor/Scryers/Sunreavers/Silver Enclave. So a Horde Goblin faction and an Alliance Worgen Faction. I wont get into "cute" races like Oracles etc since we dont know about the neutral races in Cataclysm yet. So neutral: Red Dragonflight, Cenarion Circle reloaded, Tol'vir, Earthen (Ring), Naga/Makrura Horde/Alliance: Fist of Orgrimmar, Alliance Forces and Worgen/Goblins As for reputations like Tranquillen, here are some ideas: * Stormwind Militia (Elwynn, Westfall, Redridge, Duskwood) * The Blood Guard (Durotar, Northern Barrens, Stonetalon, Ashenvale) * Sentinel Army (Teldrassil, Darkshore, Ashenvale, Stonetalon) * The Forsaken (Tirisfal, Silverpine, Hillsbrad, Alterac) * Iron Army (Dun Morogh, Loch Modan, Wetlands, Badlands) The Forsaken and Sentinel Army would also have representives in the Azuremyst and Eversong areas. |
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2009
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Tranquillien always made me angry. Actually Ghostlands in general made me angry when compared to Draenei equivalent. I hated Bloodmyst Isle, it was so all over the place it felt like while Ghostlands seemed neat and the quests laid out to work together. Oh look at that I got sidetracked.
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![]() Druid of the Claw Join Date: Aug 2009
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I have a cool rep idea w/ neutral areas. Think of Wyrmrest Accord... right. Its neutral and if you attack someone there, you will get the beat down (unless you are a pally/mage/priest/druid). Now, imagine if you have a higher rep than the other guy, they attack only him and not you. This would make people work on rep more adamantaly. And you run the risk if someone is at the same rep stage as you, the offender will be attacked.
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![]() Demon Hunter Join Date: Oct 2009
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I want to see another clash between the Centaur and the Tauren (Who now also have not just the support of the Horde but the Taunaka).
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![]() Elune Join Date: Aug 2009
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![]() Ranger Join Date: Sep 2009
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i think IF the Cataclysm and Zaetar's return allow the Pariah to unify the Clans, id say they might align themselves loosely with the Alliance against the legion and the Tauren
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![]() Chimaera Join Date: Apr 2009
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I think the bloodsail should get additional content. make it into a mid level aldor vs scryers.
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![]() Druid of the Claw Join Date: Aug 2009
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I've always thought that guard system was their to avoid killing quest givers, not really about ganking. I can still gank and get away w/ it up there. and as a prot pally, I can take on a guardian or two. If guards were truly to prevent invaders, don't you think southshore/Horde one (and I'm horde... ouch) would be higher level to prevent gankers?
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![]() Eternal Join Date: Sep 2009
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Same with the Frostborn (Going to Ironforge or aiding some sort of attack that Muradin or Brann might take aka Uldum) and the Mag'har. |
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![]() Elune Join Date: Aug 2009
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![]() Keeper of the Grove Join Date: Aug 2009
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I agree but they should only change that on none-pvp-servers.
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![]() Arch-Druid Join Date: Feb 2009
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That's pretty much all. World pvp has been clinically dead since the end of vanilla, the only thing remaining is occasional ganking of high levels against low levels. Beyond that, world pvp in any shape or form does not exist anymore.
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