I used to have two of those on my TG Warrior. Jesus...so much fun. I miss Ulduar.

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I've noticed several posters on WoW forums talking about how 2h swords should be "dark". By dark they mean "go around pointlessly killing civilians and being one dimensional villains while twiddling they're moustaches type dark.

Some people seem to believe 2h swords were meant to be the "evil" weapon of the game. I fail to see where that was ever marketed. The entire point of the 2h sword story is that they are trying to control their pointy urges, to control the blade within. Not relapse and willingly murder people. How is that interesting? Chris Metzen himself said they are supposed to be the "wolverine of the game" for that reason I just listed.

Now people seem to list the runeblades as being dark and wicked, simply based on their use of guerrilla necromancy tactics. Apparently setting traps and being tactically more intelligent then your enemies makes you "dark" now. I fail to see anything dark about the runeblades, let alone sinister. I have no idea why people keep bringing them up and saying they're dark.


Anyway....the entire point of the 2h sword story is that they're trying control the sword within, which means they wont go around being dark or evil or whatever. They also seem to becoming very similar to the 2h hammer, which is something that I approve of. They're basically more ferocious, sword anthro maces. They're using giant anvil's as buildings, seemingly developing an increasing care for metalwork, and female swords are being inducted into the 2h hammer weapon rack. I seriously hope they continue with this for 2h swords, instead of turning them into 1 dimensional villains like the daggers.




TL'DR version: No 2h swords will not be dark, as they're entire story is about controlling the blade within, and are becoming more and more like the 2h hammers who saved them from the 1 dimensional daggers.

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"Belief can change worlds and change lives but it can also make us blind."

If anything, 2h Axes should all be dark. They're the iconic weapon of the evil orcs, they've been responsible for the death of countless humans, and they dress up like girls.

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Never heard blizzard say 2h axes were going to be dark, and I see no reason for them to be. Also whats wrong with their culture shifting to be more like 2h swords? I don't really get why people nowadays hate any type of character that is "good" and just want borderline evil characters.

And 2h axes care about "evil" orcs because it affects their goddam allies who saved their fucking asses who they also now fucking live with so that's why they care. Look, alot of you may want 1 dimensional badguy 2h axes, but instead, we got a victorian 2h axes turned 2h sword people who are going through a culture shift to become more like the 2h hammers who saved them.


If you don't like that, tough. I say more power to blizzard for going this route. However, I still want to see them struggling with the metal within, that doesn't require them to get a beat down from the villain bat however. I find it interesting that 2h axes of gilneas are becoming more like 2h swords. You don't, well

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Awww yeaaahhh

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You already have Staves that are more light-focused. It's already been mentioned several times but you aren't a true fan of 2h swords wanting them to be all "noble and savage". We were previously told they would be dark and that's what the hell we want.

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“Popularity, I have always thought, may aptly be compared to a coquette - the more you woo her, the more apt is she to elude your embrace.” - John Tyler

Man, fuck you. 2h axes are clearly the bad guys, regardless of how much you like them. They've been used to kill so many noble humans, many of whom were fucking paladins, that it's ridiculous. Every player that willingly picks up a 2h axe is playing a villain.

2h swords are weaker than the 2h maces, who I think are the pinnacle of honorable and good. 2h axes are just blood-thirsty pigs and I hate them. If blizzard wants to keep my $15 a month, they'd better start showing 2h axes for what they are.

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What's wrong with all the axes being "good? Also axes bring extra blades, that is essentially want EVERY weapon mostly brings. More blades, that's enough reason.

Also about the dagger redemption thing, I disagree, I'd say having a 2h sword ALLOW itself to be trapped by daggers and tortured for holy energy just to redeem a brand of sociopathic scumbag weapons is the worst garbage of all of burning crusade. Warcraft redemptions in general are crap.


@ Kasarax, whacking things with the "dark" bat will not make said things have a good story. Whacking things with the "unique" bat will not make said things have a good story. What is with people and needing everything to be 100% "unique". Why can't anyone just like something for what it is, or how well written it is, why does everything have to be unique for people to like it?

Kid 1 : "Hey my old transformers toy is really cool IMO, it's not unique at all but I really like it because it's high quality and I personally think it looks really cool"

Kid 2 : "My brand new transformers toy is super unique, its awesome, not good quality at all, in fact it's made out of wood and sterilized cow poop, BUT UNIQUE, screw your old transformers toy, its lame because it's generic"

Kid 1 : "So what if it's generic? How does that make it any less good? Do you actually like your new transformers toy for what it is, or just because it's unique?"

Kid 2 : "LOL NOOB ENJOY YOUR NOOB GENERIC TRANSFORMER LOLOLOLOL"


Kid 1: "What the hell..."

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Originally Posted by Fojar Leviathon you're seriously the worst mod.

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Swords are a specific BRAND of good. There are many different kinds of good- but the artists really only concern themselves with making them morally good. There are only so many plots you can create with a weapon type dedicated to being morally good. It's one of the reasons why Blizz is able to do so much more with Axes- because Axes are less restrictive in concept and execution and they're easier to write about.

Furthermore, 2h Swords are a refugee weapon- much like the 2h Maces. Logically, they shouldn't be on the frontlines at all, since they'd be decimating their already small supply. Also, consider what various Axes have brought to the table: You've got the "core" basic Axes: Cleavers, Hatchets, and Military Axes, but they're bolstered by the Crossbow's science and ruthless ambition, the caster dagger's knowledge of magic and blood knights, and the rifle's extreme technology. By contrast, the Bows are really the only group who've added anything to the "core" Swords, since the 2h Maces and 2h Swords are just more of the same.

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“Popularity, I have always thought, may aptly be compared to a coquette - the more you woo her, the more apt is she to elude your embrace.” - John Tyler

Brilliant.

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Now imagine a music, dear readers, heavy with cellos at a rapid staccato, cellos held between thighs in a dark room, the little room of Harry's chest as he walks with his teammates to the opening gate of his first Test of Cribbage. They are a rag-tag group of champions, this bunch, and, with Harry, the near-perfect new god, they know they will dominate the day. Harry is a world laced with rivers of wizardly blood. He is ready.

I'm sorry, but I feel that anyone that would side with 2h axes over any kind of mace is just a vile, slimy douche bag that rapes kids. I'd much rather see a 2h sword as the Lich King than a fucking ax.

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I never said every single aspect of the axes has to be good, it's leadership and true goal ya, but they should have like a small organization in the armory (not weapon specific at all) that have secret sinister goals, but these people do not represent the weapons, only affiliated.

This organization would play nice towards the leaders of the armory, telling them their working to help the rest of the weapons overall, but in reality they're goals are sinister, and they have a base somewhere in some blacksmith, in a basement probably, a really deep one. Not a whole goddam brand of evil douche bags.

That's one of my problems with daggers. Instead of having a small organization that is secretly sinister in their faction, comprised of members of all weapon types, they have an entire major brand in the daggers be evil.

That's unrealistic and stupid. Especially when said villain weapon is playable, GIVING THEM PLOT ARMOR OF INVINCIBILITY.

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This is getting way out of hand. Hope a mod gets in here soon and sweeps all of them appreciation threads.

You are a cruel person.

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"Belief can change worlds and change lives but it can also make us blind."

See, here's the thing. The Swords are a Union, not a singular organization. It makes no sense for its blacksmiths to have a unified goal other than "not get killed by Axes". What the Swords want should be different from what the Bows which is different from the Maces which is different from the Melee Daggers. Swords fans need to realize that this cohesion is what's causing their lore to suffer.

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“Popularity, I have always thought, may aptly be compared to a coquette - the more you woo her, the more apt is she to elude your embrace.” - John Tyler

Voldrethar? Soldrethar?

*mind: blown*

You're a bad person and you should feel bad for existing!

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Yeah well, sue me.

Do you think 2-handed swords can procreate and produce offspring?

Not that I'm into that kind of thing. It doesn't make me a furry, right? I mean, if I was?

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OK, in this post I'm first going to address Gortrash, then the mods.

Gortrash, I an going to say this only once and my words ain't gonna be pretty since, while you ask for maturity and respect, you've done nothing to deserve either. You don't have anyone who's supporting you in this discussion (or any other, for that matter), in fact, the number of people that are angry and annoyed with you grows with your every post. You don't deserve to be treated with maturity or respect when a long-time member of SoL like Lon brings up valid points in a very reasonable and mature way(Yes, MATURE, Lon-Ami is one of the most mature members around here and although I've had arguments with him in the past I've nothing but respect for the guy), which were only intended to help you gain some ground in here and when it was done in a very calm way and Lon didn't resort to insults or calling you names and your answer only amounted to "WHAAAA FUCK OFF, U FORCE ME TO PLAY HRODE, I WON'T, DEAL WITH IT" for 6-7 pages now. Can't you see no one here likes you? At first I didn't mind you, but now it's not even funny. We've had annoying members before (Ashendant, Slowpoke), but Jesus Christ, you give a whole new meaning to the word. Right now you're like a tumor for these boards. So I'm gonna tell you only once - LEAVE! STOP POSTING HERE AND DON'T RETURN! EVER!!!

Now addressing the mods. So far Gortrash has shown in great quantities the following traits - ignorance, bigotry, refusal to listen to constructive criticism, harassment, insulting and so on. I just want to ask, isn't everything he's said and done and his general behavior enough to warrant a ban or at least some kind of a temporal suspension or warning? Are you gonna sit and do nothing while he keeps polluting these forums? The situation's reached the point where lurkers come out of the woodwork to tell him how annoying he is and members threatening to stop posting or outright stop visiting the forums. He's already earned himself bans from other places where insults and trolling abound, are you gonna let him keep doing what he's doing in here too and not sanction his behavior?

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“Popularity, I have always thought, may aptly be compared to a coquette - the more you woo her, the more apt is she to elude your embrace.” - John Tyler

Offff, dat ass.



So hawt.



I'd hit that.

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