Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria Q&A - Answer rolls - Page 3

#51

02-12-2012, 09:23 PM

Fojar

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Originally Posted by Leviathon

Psh it was confirmed back in October with the interview.

Well, my point still stands. I hope they don't fuck it up. Every race right now currently has its own very unique look and the problem with updating things like the textures and models of the races is that it's very tempting for developers to make them all bipedal humanoids.

What I'm worried about is that we'll see Humans, Green Humans, Short Humans, Humans with pointy ears, Rotting Humans, Humans with tusks, etc.

Orcs need to stay buff with a slight hunch. Dwarves need to stay stout with more beard than face. Undead need to remain hunched with bones exposed everywhere and unrecognizable mutilated faces. While the textures for the BC and Cataclysm races are definitely better than the old races, I'm firmly in the "don't fix what ain't broke" camp here. The old models could use some texture updates and perhaps better animations, but other than that I think they're fine the way they are.

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So nothing will happen in Kalimdor and the Eastern kingdoms,the war will only be in the super important panda land .
Let's hope for patch like 4.1,otherwise... I'm not really looking forward for the story in this expansion .

Yippee, we'll get to avenge Theramore, Gilneas, Lordaeron, and Ashenvale by taking some opium fields in Panda Land.

This is exactly what I was afraid of.

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Q:
Since in Mists of Pandaria, there’s no world PVP zone like Tol Barad or Lake Wintergrasp, then how are you going to enhance the world PVP activities?

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We are trying to figure out some other ways. For example, let the players to seize the enemy’s territory, or kill the enemy’s leader. And if they made it, they would be able to increase the upper limit of the conquest points that week. And of course, we are going to add more PVP objectives in Mists of Pandaria as well.

Not sure if I approve of this. The advantage to having designated PvP areas like TB and Wintergrasp is that the game can ensure that the match is balanced by limiting the number of players who enter.

Freedom is a very bad thing as far as PvP is concerned and if the game lets people take lands or kill characters permanently based on PvP superiority then unbalanced servers are going to become hellholes real fast.

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#53

02-12-2012, 09:28 PM

Fojar

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Originally Posted by Porimlys

Was anyone really expecting more updates to the old world? :\

Phased events or scenarios would be awesome.

#54

02-12-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fojar

The updated models will be the same overall model but with a high polygon count/detail and the higher resolution textures that they started using back in Wrath (it's like night and day when you compare any pre WotLK texture to what we get now). Animations themselves have little to do with a updated model in most cases though they could add more bones to the faces to make facial expressions match the new races although most those bones are already there for each race.

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#55

02-12-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fojar

I don't approve that, either. Or, I mean, that could be one of the PVP objective. But there should be some balance-based PVP zone.

Anyway, that's just one of the examples they made. And perhaps thing might change in the coming months.

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Originally Posted by Fojar

Phased events or scenarios would be awesome.

Scenario is possible. Just like Blizzard mentioned that we might revisit Shen-zin Su again via PVE scenario.

#56

02-12-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Curll

They should just make TB and WG relevant each expansion and just boost them to the current max level each expansion.

#57

02-12-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Curll

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Please build an ingame archive so that the lore fans can enjoy the game. Give people who treat lore seriously some rewards!

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To pay back the lore fans’ support, we plan to add a faction called “The Lorewalkers.” The quests given by them will require the players to collect the historical items around the world, and bring back the precious knowledge to the Lorewalkers to help them establish and expand their history archive. You might even be able to become part of the history! But know that this faction will not give you any high level gears. We believe the story itself is the best reward.

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02-12-2012, 09:34 PM

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Lorewalkers are a double-edged sword. I'm reserving judgment until I know that the lore they present with lore-walkers isn't shit.

Also, the name is stupid. Sounds like a bunch of Tauren crap.

#60 02-12-2012, 09:36 PM
Odin Ranger Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 396	Guys,don't get hype out about the ,,new" models. You will be disappointed in the end. Probably we will get only new skins with more polygons,the disgusting forms of the old models will stay. The human male will still look like potato,the orc male will still look like stupid monkey and the night elf female will still look like really stupid cheerleader . But they will be more shiny

#61

02-12-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Odin

Guys,don't get hype out about the ,,new" models. You will be disappointed in the end.
Probably we will get only new skins with more polygons,the disgusting forms of the old models will stay.
The human male will still look like potato,the orc male will still look like stupid monkey and the night elf female will still look like really stupid cheerleader . But they will be more shiny

The Forsaken model, however, will be replaced with a normal human model with slightly grey skin.

#62

02-12-2012, 09:38 PM

Leviathon

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Originally Posted by Odin

Anyone expecting a model to completely change would be someone with incredibly unrealistic expectations besides the shitstorm that would ensue afterwards if they did over alter the models.

#64

02-12-2012, 09:40 PM

Millenia

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Originally Posted by Omacron

Have you ever stopped to consider that there's more to WoW than elves?

People are interested in what they're interested in. Slywyn's no different.

Personally, besides the "we are working on new models" bit, everything just seems rehashed from before.

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Originally Posted by Fojar

One of the concerns brought up the blues is the need to keep a similar look with the models, considering the outcry after half of the male draenei faces got mustaches after one patch.

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Originally Posted by Mustrum

Because if a storyteller is doing his job, he makes you care. And if that storyteller then says "I dunno, then they stopped fighting, I guess," without any explanation or clarification, his audience has every right to be pissed off. Because they were given reason to stay interested, reason to keep up with his tale, only to be shut down just as things were getting good. A waste of time, a waste of emotional tension, a waste, if you fail to grasp the significance of narrative, of money.

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02-12-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Odin

Well people ask about this 10 times in the other thread. Аre you really surprised?

Quite frankly, yes, I'm very surprised that people weren't expecting all of the story to happen on Pandaria. They have never made any mention of going back through the JUST UPDATED old world and updating it again.

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02-12-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Porimlys

So the worgens give up on Gillneas,the night elves give up on Ashenvale,the taurens give up on barrens (maybe they will won there if they destroy Theramore,don't know about that),but they will all wage war in Pandaria,instead for their homes . Why is Pandaria so important,is there fountain of happiness or what .They need to pull something really big for all that to make sence .
And why no update for high level characters like in 4.1 . They will also update Dustwallow Marsh in MOP.

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02-12-2012, 10:23 PM

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I don't really know if Dustwallow will get changed. The destruction of Theramore will probably end up like the Razing of Orgrimmar.

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#72 02-12-2012, 10:30 PM
cosmictimelion Eternal Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 4,135	Honestly, this concept art looks more "Warcraft 3" than the current models. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/media/ar...wx4-artwork-18 http://us.battle.net/wow/en/media/ar...wx4-artwork-19 If they can make the models look like that (and I believe they can) then we'll be golden. As it right now, the old models do need a complete overhaul. __________________

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02-12-2012, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Odin

It's an MMO dude, an old one at that, there are restrictions to how stories can be told. You can either lament over that fact or get over it.

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02-12-2012, 10:37 PM

Millenia

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Originally Posted by HalfElfDragon

I don't really know if Dustwallow will get changed. The destruction of Theramore will probably end up like the Razing of Orgrimmar.

They could change it easily. Theramore has no unique architecture, so it shouldn't be too hard for Blizzard to put in destroyed versions of all the buildings there. Along with dead NPCs and Horde soldiers walking around.

The boat from Menethil Harbor can be redirected to Northwatch, and the teleport could be changed to Feathermoon Stronghold, which I feel is almost as large as Theramore.

The breadcrumb quest from the Southern Barrens can stay the same ("We need reinforcements from Theramore!"), but when the player character flies on over to Theramore through a dialogue option with the flight master, the character will find out that Theramore is destroyed (timey wimey ball!), and fly back. Then the quest giver will likely be shocked and dismayed, and likely send the player to Feralas.

The zone could become devoid of quests otherwise, since nothing particularly important happens there anyways.

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