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#251
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![]() Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006
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Admittedly, a lot of the Aspects' shortcomings could stem from the Titans apparently deciding that it would be hilarious to not tell their creations about the very Old Gods they were expected to keep from screwing up the planet. From the Aspects to the Watchers, the Pantheon's appointed protectors come across as frighteningly ignorant concerning the enemies from which they're actually supposed to be protecting Azeroth. Consequently, at no time during our conflicts with the Old Gods has it ever seemed like the Titans' servants had any idea what they were doing. It's one rushed patch job after another once disaster strikes, with plenty of "That's right, isn't there an Old God down there? Plumb forgot all about that!" moments.
So really, on some level the Aspects could have spent a lot of time twiddling their thumbs through catastrophe after catastrophe because by all indications, that's what they were told to do. The Titans empowered them and then left them with only the vaguest of marching orders. Which could account for their delayed responses to things like the Burning Legion and the Qiraji swarming across southern Kalimdor; they probably just plain weren't sure if those threats fell into their already poorly defined jurisdiction or if they were something to be handled by mortals or some other Titanic defense measure. Atop that, in WotA the Old Gods are implied to be borderline mythological beings to even the Aspects. Just what's the purpose of appointing protectors when they're left so uninformed that they and their followers only halfway even believe in the existence of the threat they were empowered to fight and have to deliberate to figure out whether or not a given disaster falls under the same umbrella as the spooky enemy they aren't even completely sure exists? The Titans really just seem to have dropped the ball when it came to educating their creations on just where to point all those fancy powers they were given, so we have entire armies of powerful beings who literally just hang out not doing a job that was never properly delineated to them in the first place. Seriously, the whole theme of the Old Gods/Dragon Aspect story has boiled down to "the very guys we're supposed to keep locked up are trying to escape! Who'd have expected that?" Gee, how about every person ever put in charge of keeping someone from escaping from somewhere? Except apparently on Azeroth, where ancient wardens built expressly for that singular purpose are routinely blindsided by the very concept that their prisoners might actually be interested in trying to get out. I guess Loken figured he was empowered as a courtesy to keep Yogg-Saron from getting lonely or something by listening to the Old God's crazy stories about how cool it would be to escape and how Loken should totally go crazy and let him so they can hang out. Last edited by ARM3481 : 02-24-2012 at 11:03 AM. |
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By eliminating them. But here, they had to contain them, or risk destroy the whole planet with them. And permanent containment is a complete different animal from eradication. |
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#254
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I'm still pretty sore about how they handed Malygos during Wrath.
I could nitpick everything to hell and back, but the biggest peeve I have against it was that we killed him instead of knocking some sense into him. Plus Malygos would have fitted much better in Cata, out to avenge his flight. |
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#255
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![]() Banished Join Date: Aug 2011
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The only logical explanation is that Alexstrasza is simply evil.
You may not see it yet. Hell, Blizzard might not even see it yet. But she is a power-hungry, scheming megalomaniac. |
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#256
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FOOOOOOOOLS!
DID YOU REALLY BELIEVE I WAS ON YOUR SIDE? NOW BOLVAR, WHO IS BATHED IN THE FLAMES OF MY FLIGHT, CONTROLS THE SCOURGE, AND I CONTROL HIM! THIS WORLD WILL BE SCOURGED OF CORRUPTION, SO LIFE CAN BEGIN ANEW! BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! something like that? Last edited by Quaero : 02-24-2012 at 11:28 AM. |
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Good god, this is even worse than I realized. Oh, and it's 'who' not 'whom' in this case. |
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#258
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#259
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![]() I'll just say that there were probably higher priorities than the mages at that point, you know with the Lich King resurrecting one's long dead consort (I have no idea if that scene was before/after the conclusion of the Nexus War). edit: Well... Keri went out of her way to burn one's consort of 10,000 years+ (apparently she was the mother of Arygos/Kirygosa) with the purpose of drawing aggro. Well congratulations, you have now drawn ire of the blue flight. Can't believe I'm trying to justify rape right now. Though it happened, so I'll have to deal with it (not that I'm happy about it). Last edited by Malygos : 02-24-2012 at 12:07 PM. |
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#260
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That seems to be a recurring thing with dragons, though. I wonder if they have a knowledge of "consent" in their culture.
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#261
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+ the whole flight-changing mind control freezing thing he was doing to her.
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You can probably argue Alexstrazsa was raped, but she was more being forced to have sex with one of her "husbands". She didn't want to be a breeding machine, but the orcs were at least not bringing in some other dragon to do the procreation tango with her, so it's a bit more slippery and probably lays more on the side of sexual abuse.
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#264
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I don't like the direction this conversation is taking.
No sir. Anyway, I always though The Argent Tournament made more sense as 3.0 content, and that they should have saved Malygos for 3.2. Last edited by Quaero : 02-24-2012 at 01:15 PM. |
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#265
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![]() Elune Join Date: Feb 2010
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You talk about dragons being raped now ?
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#266
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I was just pointing out that I find him being implied a rapist was a bit more of a character assassination point then anything else in the events, including his death. It's hard to have sympathy for his "Magic is destroying the world!" blight when he kidnaps a red dragon for procreation, even using magic to bend her will to his.
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#267
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To be fair, said Dragon had just killed his consort, defiled her body and lit it on fire on his doorstep to taunt him.
Neither side is innocent. |
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Saragosa has a quick, clean death at the hands of the player. Keristrasza has runes burned into her flesh, her mind broken through magic, and was going to be popping out all of Malygos future kids against her will. There is not much of a comparison.
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I have a few assumptions on this: -Black Dragons are very racist -Malygos decided to screw the tradition/law in the name of revenge -Malygos was so crazy that he simply didn't give a damn
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And it's not like they can't. We have seen that dragon's DNA is pretty damn maliable.
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#272
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They never go into detail how this would work, but it was what they were playing with.
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As far as i know the runes are probably empowering or slavery runes, i never thought that he was turning her into a different colour.
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#274
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Go look at her.... she was growing blue scales.... unless dragons turn blue when they get cold.
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#275
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![]() Elune Join Date: Aug 2009
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Well, considering what Maly was using her for, we know one thing she wasn't turning blue from.
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