But Theramore never really inherited that naval focus.

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It was intentional, I was considering putting PMSing Jaina, but decided against it :-P

Obviously not, otherwise such overwhelming might would be seen and felt in both story and game.

The Horde had resource and influence problems, that is where the tension between them and the Alliance stems, because they tried to remedy the former with resources from traditional NE territories and the latter by allying with the Forsaken. However over the first three wow periods 1.0-3.0 you kept working on fixing these problems.

Given the fact that the Horde is able to sustain this full scale war with the Alliance we can assume it worked, to an extent. The Horde is able to take on the Alliance for a time, I am willing to agree that a long war would favor the Alliance due to it's more developed and secure infrastructure (key word being infrastructure, i. e. not resources). But that is most likely irrelevant because this war should last for no more then 3 years.

The end point is the same, we have little to no proof of this supposed "trashing level" power of the Alliance either in game or in lore, leading to the conclusion that the military advantage the Alliance holds over the Horde is meager or non-existing.

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That was my problem with it because Theramore was Stormwind but instead of the Blue heavy theme it was White.... and they had a very peaceful leader which stopped them doing anything outside of Jaina appearing a few times.

A 'raging Jaina' is something that afflicts all women at least once every month.

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I thought your problem was that they were a 'dumbed down Kul Tiras', unless by that you mean Stormwind with a white color scheme?

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Its both.... They are a dumbed down version of Kul Tiras with a small Naval force that are not developed like Stormwind at all its like a horrible mix of both which does anoyes me considering its potential.

Theramore is a place full of disappointments which we could only expect with it being in a MMO and Neutral but they did get abit better in Cataclysm i have to admit.

I think they should've played up Theramore being akin to the USA and the Eastern Kingdoms being like Europe.

This, of course, would involve constant stealing of land from the tauren.

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But the Orcs actually do have a weapon of mass destruction...

If Jaina loses against Garrosh, I don't think any Warrior would be spared.

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Surprise!



Source: secret .

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Metzen: They are one of the ancient races of Northrend that we haven't spoken of before... because we hadn't made them up before. (laughter)

~Main: Expansion theorycrafting, Expansions list, The Age of Nightmare, Empire of the Tides (coming soon)~
~Fan ficton: Anachronos Journey: The Timeless Heir~ ~Geography of continents series: Old Kalimdor (original), Pandaria~
~Locations as zones series: Azjol-Nerub, Barrow Deeps, Zul'Aman, Demon Hunter zone, Caverns of Time~

Her hair is turning white !

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Blizzard hinted that, as a side-effect of the traumatic siege of Theramore.

I think Aegwynn got white hair after draining herself a lot, too.

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Metzen: They are one of the ancient races of Northrend that we haven't spoken of before... because we hadn't made them up before. (laughter)

~Main: Expansion theorycrafting, Expansions list, The Age of Nightmare, Empire of the Tides (coming soon)~
~Fan ficton: Anachronos Journey: The Timeless Heir~ ~Geography of continents series: Old Kalimdor (original), Pandaria~
~Locations as zones series: Azjol-Nerub, Barrow Deeps, Zul'Aman, Demon Hunter zone, Caverns of Time~

Oh wow.

That's one dark-ass cover.

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"Noble countrymen, evil is upon us. Darkness has befallen our shores. Rise and slay thy enemies… strike, strike so others shall live. The meek shall not fade into the night… live my brethren, live." - King Terenas Menethil II

Wasn't Theramore unique in vanilla in that it contested Stormwind and Ironforge as being the capitol city of the Alliance? Or is that RPG-only lore?

Also; why does Jaina look like Lady gaga?

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That was only in the RPG.

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"Noble countrymen, evil is upon us. Darkness has befallen our shores. Rise and slay thy enemies… strike, strike so others shall live. The meek shall not fade into the night… live my brethren, live." - King Terenas Menethil II

She's clearly turning into a naga.

Wait till Genya gets here.

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Cover makes me think they hit it with a tidal wave using shaman and magi... that's not an inherently 'evil' attack but it'd be pretty brutal.


Doesn't seem to fit with the maps we've seen though.

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A dead leader's often better than a live one, a dead leader's idealized, he can't do something stupid and make people hate him.

It should be interesting to see if the hair color change is going to have an effect on her personality.

Based up other's who hair have turned white, excepting Aegywn,
it really turned them into cold, emotionless monsters.

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Meanwhile.... back at the

I think that the picture of Jaina drowning in obvious pain is supposed to be a metaphor.

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"Noble countrymen, evil is upon us. Darkness has befallen our shores. Rise and slay thy enemies… strike, strike so others shall live. The meek shall not fade into the night… live my brethren, live." - King Terenas Menethil II

... Really? You REALLY think Blizz is together enough to make a metaphor on something that matters?


The cover will

A: Have nothing to do with what happens

B: Be only vaguely related to what happens. - My bet.

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A dead leader's often better than a live one, a dead leader's idealized, he can't do something stupid and make people hate him.

My bet as well.

I'm actually...rather surprised at how shocking I find this cover. Jaina has always been so passive, so cool, so collected.

To see her screaming in impotent rage as she sinks beneath the ocean is...rather interesting, to say the least.

She can't swim.What do you expect ?

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