Eh, I think it's a pretty cool concept.

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I don't think it fits Varian on any level.

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Why what's wrong with it?

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Most of Varians initial character development came from the comics, wherein he was portrayed as a frenzied fighting machine. Hell, he even earned a nickname that came from the legend of Goldrinn. It doesn't seem like it's coming too far out of left field imo.

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Varian was not portrayed as a frenzied fighting machine. He was rather calm and deliberate in his actions. It was the quickness and efficiency of those actions that earned him the nickname.

Just because he and Goldrinn share a nickname does not make it logical or good. If they made another Die Hard movie featuring Samuel L Jackson as his character Zeus and had Jupiter bless him with power because he also goes by Zeus would be just as out of place and bad.

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eh soups up Varian and doesn't afraid of anything?

This would kick incredible amounts of ass.

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"Noble countrymen, evil is upon us. Darkness has befallen our shores. Rise and slay thy enemies… strike, strike so others shall live. The meek shall not fade into the night… live my brethren, live." - King Terenas Menethil II

Damn, I knew shouldn't have chosen a Samuel L. Jackson character.

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My theory is that he is simply the reincarnated form of the brown wolf that rallied his kind when the Burning Legion killed Goldrinn.

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Because Humans are more important than any other race in the Alliance, even to the amount that they'll steal themes from other races if it makes them seem "cooler" in their own stories.

That's pretty much how I feel about it, it should have been a Worgen character that had gotten more involvement with Goldrinn rather than Varian being uber blessed and having the entirety of Gilneas follow under him. There should have been something more compelling than that and I feel the issues between Stormwind and Gilneas are going to be one of those things that will simply be dropped in the Lore because Varian and Genn are best buddies now.

That aside, I also wish they had given Goldrinn better character. Not all berserkers are manchildren, and it would have been interesting to have him be more of a fierce, cold, calculating wolf god who knew warfare as if it was an art to him. (Much like how Varian was depicted in the first issues of his comic.)

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I honestly think is the one and only reason right here.

Garrosh is a Hellscream, what other special training do you need?

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The "its a worse origin than some fan fiction ive seen" special training one.

The long lost son of a great horde hero who never even implied to have a son suddenly appears and he kicks asses left and right, gets to hang out with all the cool band that welcomes him like he has been there for decades and stals promotions (warchief) to characters that deserved it far more (Cairne, Nazgrel, Rexxar, Vol`Jin)

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Grom was single and chieftain to his clan, he could have banged anybody he wanted. Saying there needs to be prior implied is like saying Arthas can't have a grandfather because nobody mentioned him.

Besides, all the other leaders are unfit to lead the Horde. For even bringing up Vol'jin is a tool thing to do.

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Uhh, yeah. The Night Elves kick the hell out of the Orcs in Ashenvale. The Orcs resort back to demon magic (though tricked into it).

The only reason the Humans have "met success" is because the Orcs fractured from the inside.

That being said, onto the topic at hand.

Because Humans lack their own flavor, and in order to make them feel like the "core" race of the Alliance, they mix everyone elses themes into the Humans, which hurts every race involved. The humans included.

It's why "Humans and Orcs" as the pillars of the franchise is a stupid idea instead of the Horde and the Alliance.

Then why are Night Elf fans complaining that they're "weak"?

And didn't the humans also suffer a betrayal at the hands of Alterac? Which means it wasn't just the Orcs that had a fracturing happen among them.

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"A few nights back some guy threw a ball and told me to fetch. In response, I did the same, but with his head. Needless to say, he didn't have a witty comeback." - Sniffy Pete

Being the guys with the Church-Militant isn't a flavor? It's humans who were the first and best at it, you know.

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Yep. Then again, it could've gone worse had Alterac's soldiers in ToD decided to fight Thoras instead of help them block the passes into Lordaeron.

The Alliance's fracturing was stopped quickly, as everyone in Alterac but Perenolde and it's nobles where good people. The Orcs following Gul'dan where evil; and they took themselves (the Twilight's Hammer and Stormreaver) as well as the Black Tooth Grin clan out of the fight.

Though, honestly, sending the Black Tooth Grin clan to hunt down the Stormreavers seemed stupid, since Rend and Maim where pissed at Orgrim for killing their father, Blackhand. If the Black Tooth had turned against Orgrim, would've had a good ol' Civil War.

I guess other than the Blackrocks, they where the only clan there, since, the Bleeding Hollow and Dragonmaw where in Khaz Modan with the Dwarves, so he didn't have much choice...

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Things Ferlion can't kill: Frost Orbs on LK.

Because they are idiots.

If anything, and I've said this since Beta information in Cataclysm, Night Elves have been shown as TO strong, and external lore has only made that seem worse, with Night Elven forces being sent out to Eastern Kingdoms to aide them, spent up in Hyjal, retaking their lands in Ferals, all while pinning the Orcs down in Ashenvale after a surprise push that resulted in the Orcs being so locked in that they described it as stepping outside and being shot with a thousand arrows.

The Night Elves in cataclysm have flaws. Boy do they have flaws. But winning isn't an issue. The poor representation of them winning is the issue.

The difference of course being that the Humans were losing even before the betrayal.

It's flavor that was stripped from them, and while they were the "first" in showing up in the franchise, it's hard to say they were the best at it, because we don't have enough information on say, Draenei Paladin.

That particular flavor has been stripped from the humans of the Alliance.

Name a major Paladin character. Bet you he's not a Draenei.

If we don't know much about the Draenei Paladins, odds are the writers aren't using them much. If you're going to take the tack that maybe Draenei are the best and we just don't know enough to say, then can't we also argue that Humans could be the best Hunters, Dwarves the best Rogues, Orcs the best Mages...

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Well its not like they don't exist. Most of us will remember this guy. He's kindoff tied to Med'an though so in the interest of a better story I nominate Justinius. He was my favourite (unnoticeable) npc from Burning Crusade. Wish they did more with him.

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I honestly liked that guy, gave awesome speeches too.

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"A few nights back some guy threw a ball and told me to fetch. In response, I did the same, but with his head. Needless to say, he didn't have a witty comeback." - Sniffy Pete

Why did Goldrinn puck Varian Wyrnn?
The simplest answer is often the best.

Night elves a everlining tree fuckers,
Daenei are holy ageless space goats,
Dwaves and gnomes build shit. What do humans have? Well now they have a high king granted power by an immortal.

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Humans have that oft-forgotten quality that becomes the trope of every fantasy or sci-fi series, soul. They may not be the smartest or sexiest people on the block, but their "inner spirit" is stronger than anyone else.

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