Isn't the Alliance navy an actual navy, though? The Horde navy seems to consist more of zeppelins and airships than actual boats (though it of course includes both).

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The Alliance navy is actual boats and Skybreaker-style airships.

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The Aliance's navy isn't worth much, considering all of its losses in WoW, especially with Kul Tiras being MIA.

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That's exactly why it needs to -change-.

If we go by the writing, the Alliance's army is faster to lose or surrender then France.

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Kul'tiras fleet was destroyed by the Horde in the founding of Durotar; if anything remains of it, we haven't heard of it in the history of World of Warcraft.

What does surprise me, however, is that Stormwind hasn't been played up as a great naval power. Isn't Stormwind supposed to be a port-city? Isn't that, like, the basis for its economic growth and status as capitol?

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Daelin said he took half the fleet to chase after her. The other half is floating around Kul'tiras. And considering how fast Stormwind seems to be pumping out ships, I wouldn't be surprised if Kul'tiras had rebuilt it before the Cataclysm.

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You forgot the context. Daelin took the other half of the fleet to chase after her; the first half having been sent with Jaina in the first place.

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Still, Stormwind pumps out those armored ships like they are going to go out of style, I can see Kul'Tiras, which didn't need to rebuild it's infrastructure after the Second War, having had rebuilt it's navy.

Then again, I can also imagine Kul'tiras holding their ships close and guarding transport ships, with Stormwind building ships to attack the Horde's lines.

All it'd take is a few things about Kul'tiras dandied about, and we'd have some answers. sigh...

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If they gave us answers, it'd mean they had limited their options for what they'd be able to do with the nation once its implemented. By leaving its status open-ended, they can do whatever they want.

Assuming the nation is still around, and didn't get sucked into the Maelstrom or something.

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Don't be silly.

With the recent movement of the kingdom due to the Cataclysm, Kul Tiras is going to be a half-ruined kingdom like every other Alliance-aligned human kingdom. Stormwind can't lose its place as the designated human kingdom, after all.

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Fine, ignore the BG that has the Forsaken assaulting Gilneas by sea.

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Has your reading comprehension been suffering lately? Any blows to the head? Perhaps someone kicked you in the face?

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We know that the Forsaken are launching naval assaults against the coast of Gilneas. It not making sense to you, me, or Joe Blow doesn't make it anyless canon.

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The Forsaken assault the northern coast of Gilneas, which is the logical point considering that Forsaken territory (and any theoretical harbors not shown in game) is to the north. Though do note that the Horde also lands in Tol Barad to the south.

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If only there was a way that you could sail further down the coast.

"What about the Alliance Ships!"

They've obviously left after they dropped off Halford and crew. They are running around Gilneas, being the badass that Halford is.

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Pretty sure that those ships are destroyed. But only because Wyrmbane physically picked them up and threw them at the Horde lines, bringing down another four-dozen Horde gunships.

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What would Halford Wyrmbane do if he were here right now?

He'd kill an orc or two, that's what Halford Wyrmbane'd do.

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We know from cdev that the Forsaken navy mostly consists of wrecks that they've salvaged from the Ocean floor, repaired and raised.

When you know that info it kindoff makes you wonder why the fuck they want the harbour in Gilneas...

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Part of me thinks the whole idea with the port was scrapped and the Forsaken are invading due to past disputes between their kingdom and Gilneas. (Plus the Worgen were a threat in Silverpine lands even before Cataclysm when you consider Shadowfang Keep and Pyrewood Village.)

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No. The Orcs were behind pretty much every aspect of the invasion right from its inception. That along with the massive amounts of Orcish support that Sylvanas is getting for the purpose of conquering this one peninsula makes me think that it's about something that the Orcs really really want there combined with the fact that the Forsaken love killing humans. The Forsaken have proven in the past that they don't need much more motivation than that.

Unless you're talking about all the Worgen stuff in Vanilla Silverpine. If you're trying to push a "It's Lordaeron vs. Gilneas!" thing then you're wrong.

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If you say so.

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Apart from one throwaway line in Edge of Night the motivation you're attaching to them has never been shown. Right now the Horde motivation for the invasion of Gilneas is still ambiguous but I don't see how the port explanation doesn't work, especially when Sylvanas was still reporting to Orcs and the presence of a port elsewhere in Forsaken territory doesn't mean that it can be used to attack Stormwind.

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