|
|
|||||||
| Register | FAQ | Members List | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
 |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
04-29-2012, 10:11 AM
|
|
DK: Can we make generalizations?
Got into a fight with someone on my realmn forum about this topic recently. I argued that we can't make any generalizations concerning the Night Elves and how they would treat DK. His argument was, well, the opposite. It sort of eventually turned into this back and forth where I was called a fool for believing that Night Elves aren't feral, savage, uber traditionalists, but I digress.
My major points were:
Some I thought later are:
Simply put, I believe it cannot be said that all DK are reviled by night elf culture when they allow Satyr - the biggest traitors in their history - near their city, and Highborne - the second biggest traitors in their history - in their most sacred temple, and indeed, soon after leading their forces in Azshara. Likewise, I don't believe that Night Elf society is as conservative a society as people make out. They've been shown to change at a rapid pace, and indeed, tend to make decisions fast and on the fly. This coupled with their high respect for their dead, heroes, and ability to allow those they no doubt deem "evil" to live so near to them, paints a picture that does not at all say "All DK are hated." Am I saying that all Night Elves should like DK? No, I just don't believe that people should automatically assume that all Night Elves hate DK. I've seen this taken to great extremes with people barely saying a word, like reading in an unofficial night elf "guide" that it's widely believed that Night Elf DK hated themselves so much that they committed mass suicide at lights hope. 
|
|
|
#2
04-29-2012, 10:17 AM
|
|
Lorewise DK's would try to stay away from the local populace.Well, except the Forsaken DK's.
__________________
|
|
|
#4
04-29-2012, 10:19 AM
|
||
|
Quote:
__________________
|
||
|
#5
04-29-2012, 10:25 AM
|
||
|
Quote:
Humans, I can understand being afraid of them, at least the "common man" human. Then again, same "common man" would likely be afraid of, say, most of the armors in this lineup: http://www.wowpedia.org/images/8/8f/..._Tier_Sets.jpg
|
||
|
#6
04-29-2012, 10:25 AM
|
|
|
I had a very similar argument with a hardcore night elf RP a while ago on this very subject. A few things to point out:
1) As you said, player DKs are heroes of their races. More importantly, however, is that most of them (certainly if you follow the storyline laid out for your character by the start zone) were raised against their will. They can't help being undead. 2) In addition to the wisp thing (which a lot of players, for whatever reason, refuse to categorize as "undead", though their status is a bit iffy), wardens pretty clearly practice necromancy in making their Spirits of Vengeance from the souls of their enemies. Now granted, Wardens are supposed to be pretty morally gray, but some degree of necromancy is sanctioned by the state, and because the night elves are a theocracy if the state sanctions it so must the Temple of Elune, and, therefore, Elune herself. If Elune is okay with Wardens using necromancy, then so must the public be. That said, the fact is the night elves have undergone significant cultural change since WCIII. There aren't many similarities to how they were presented at the time, but a lot of RPers refuse to acknowledge that. A lot of Night Elf RPers love to live in a bubble and you're just gonna have to deal with them.
__________________
|
|
|
#7
04-29-2012, 10:55 AM
|
|
|
I would think they stare at the said Death Knight for a bit and go about their business. It's been about a year and almost more then that since Death Knights came into the Alliance and Horde so I don't think they would be hated.
The only people that would really HATE them is very extremist like groups that are around somewhere in the world. Personally I judge on a individual basis.
|
|
|
#8
04-29-2012, 11:13 AM
|
||
|
Quote:
What proofs would there be that Night Elves despise DK? The only answer I ever seem to get is that they have a deep respect for life via Druidism.
__________________
|
||
|
#11
04-29-2012, 11:32 AM
|
||
|
Quote:
I recently moved off server because her hounds pestered me off the server ally side, on Wyrmrest now. EDIT: Mely said the suicide thing, someone else is the one who argued recently.
__________________
|
||
|
#12
04-29-2012, 11:33 AM
|
||
|
Quote:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...8999463?page=8 Bear in mind this was before the RPG was declared non-canon. Also ironic in that I'm going to be working at Blizzard in exactly a month, so I guess I was vindicated by history.
__________________
|
||
|
#13
04-29-2012, 11:37 AM
|
||
|
Quote:
IE: She wants to be paid to be an "idea guy". Alot of her quests have more pop culture than blizzards stuff. Though I suppose I'm going off topic, I just have a deep seated hate for her and her people.
__________________
|
||
|
#15
04-29-2012, 11:49 AM
|
|||
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
|||
|
#16
04-29-2012, 11:51 AM
|
||
|
Quote:
__________________
|
||
|
#17
04-29-2012, 11:52 AM
|
|||
|
DK. Donkey Kong. DK. Donkey Kong is here.
__________________
Quote:
Quote:
|
|||
|
#18
04-29-2012, 11:53 AM
|
||
|
Quote:
|
||
|
#20
04-29-2012, 12:26 PM
|
||
|
Quote:
__________________
|
||
|
#21
04-29-2012, 12:32 PM
|
||
 Elune 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: One nation, under Bloo
Posts: 7,544
BattleTag: Exxile87#1525
  |
Quote:
Problem solved.
__________________
|
|
|
#22
04-29-2012, 01:29 PM
|
|||
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
|
|||
|
#23
04-29-2012, 01:39 PM
|
||
|
Quote:
|
||
|
#24
04-29-2012, 01:53 PM
|
|
|
I'm going to go with night elves generally being okay with death knights. The more conservative having a few qualms with the more "unholy" nature of the magic and their existence, and maybe thinking that that they could have done more to prevent their resurrection, or killed themself after they realised what sort of magic they had been subjected to? Sure, but certainly now after they've proven themselves to be trustworthy, probably not the general population.
I somewhat disagree with the argument regarding wisps and spirits of vengeance though- while it's probably the case that the night elves don't have much of a problem with necromancy in itself, the scourge's necromancy has different enough roots and uses that it's not necessarily a good comparison. As in death knights wouldn't be rejected because they were brought back from the dead, but because of how, why, and what with. Though they probably wouldn't be rejected, it would be less due to the night elves being fine with necromancy, but more because they don't have much of a reason to distrust the death knights working with them.
|
|
|
#25
04-29-2012, 01:57 PM
|
||
|
Quote:
And? You're allowed to be silly every once in awhile. Still when discussing lore obviously be constructive and all that comes with it. I'm a little jealous of you Omacron >_> Just don't make Alliance evil and I'm ok with you. 
|
||
|
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Linear Mode
