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Old 05-16-2012, 01:52 PM
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That's another rant entirely. One I don't really care to get into at 5am in the morning, when i should be long asleep.

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I'd say you wouldn't be in the right mind to even discuss it.
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:18 PM
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Good night Zeus

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:41 PM
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Is it a derailment if Blizzard intended Garrosh to be the douche he is all along?

I consider what they did to Kael'thas to be a butchery of character. But that's because of Warcraft 3.

So I don't see how this applies to Garrosh.
I consider it to be the other way entirely, there was a logical train of progression for Kael'thas where he keeps working with darker more powerful forces from the Naga to Illidan up to Kil'jaeden in the name of saving his people and in the end succumbs to the corruption from the powers he is using.

There's a logical character arc there even if some of it happens off-screen.

Garrosh on the other hand has taken us on a wild ride from one extreme behaviour to another.
From depressed jerk in Outlands to loudmouthed warmongering jerk in Northrend, then after insulting Thrall for all of WotLK he goes to being in awe of him and unsure of his own leadership abilities in time for the cata pre-event and short story, he also decides that acting with honour and dignity is awesome before forgetting that as hes turned into an angry Tyrant five minutes later.

Sure you can attempt to explain his behaviour with fanon (and ARM has put together some masterstrokes of character analysis to explain his inconsistencies), but the general view of the average player has been a character who makes no sense and is impossible to predict leaping from one characterization to another.

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:51 PM
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Its more like a big part of fandom expected Garrosh to become evil. Unlike Ka'el
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:53 PM
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I consider it to be the other way entirely, there was a logical train of progression for Kael'thas where he keeps working with darker more powerful forces from the Naga to Illidan up to Kil'jaeden in the name of saving his people and in the end succumbs to the corruption from the powers he is using.

There's a logical character arc there even if some of it happens off-screen.

Garrosh on the other hand has taken us on a wild ride from one extreme behaviour to another.
From depressed jerk in Outlands to loudmouthed warmongering jerk in Northrend, then after insulting Thrall for all of WotLK he goes to being in awe of him and unsure of his own leadership abilities in time for the cata pre-event and short story, he also decides that acting with honour and dignity is awesome before forgetting that as hes turned into an angry Tyrant five minutes later.

Sure you can attempt to explain his behaviour with fanon (and ARM has put together some masterstrokes of character analysis to explain his inconsistencies), but the general view of the average player has been a character who makes no sense and is impossible to predict leaping from one characterization to another.
well the bit about the short story was him worrieing about the talking to thrall gave him after the violet hold incident
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:54 PM
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Garrosh is just bipolar.
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:59 PM
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well the bit about the short story was him worrieing about the talking to thrall gave him after the violet hold incident
The pre-cata event was the worst part, remember hes spent the whole of WotLK belittling Thrall, undermining his authority and telling him what "a true Warchief" would do.

Then Thrall tells him hes the Warchief and hes suddenly unsure of his convictions?
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:06 PM
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The pre-cata event was the worst part, remember hes spent the whole of WotLK belittling Thrall, undermining his authority and telling him what "a true Warchief" would do.

Then Thrall tells him hes the Warchief and hes suddenly unsure of his convictions?


Either being bipolar or his jaw should of gone way down when he said that like in the cartoons.
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:50 PM
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Someone in the Story forum mentioned that Jaina should wear her father coat like a cape from one piece.


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Old 05-16-2012, 04:12 PM
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I'm not sure if it would look good. But I like the idea, its brilliant in its simplicity
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:19 PM
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I already thought about this like years ago.

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Old 05-16-2012, 04:21 PM
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I already thought about this like years ago.

That's wearing the jacket, he suggesting using it like a cape
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:33 PM
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That's wearing the jacket, he suggesting using it like a cape
Her dad didn't wear one.

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Old 05-16-2012, 04:35 PM
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Her dad didn't wear one.

What kind of marine was he...

He probably didn't want one in the statue

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EDIT: except for the fact that he is wearing one in that statue...
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:41 PM
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Ermmm...that statue has a jacket

Anyway

If she used it like Rose in this scene of Titanic it would look good too


Kate Winslet looks kinda like Jaina BTW
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What kind of marine was he...

He probably didn't want one in the statue

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EDIT: except for the fact that he is wearing one in that statue...
Well I saved the cape for the Death Knight.



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Ermmm...that statue has a jacket

Anyway

If she used it like Rose in this scene of Titanic it would look good too

Kate Winslet looks kinda like Jaina BTW
Many people said Scarlet Jo should play her.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:53 PM
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She looks a lot her too. Titanic Kate is the one who looks kinda like Jaina


On the other hand, Jaina is closer to Kate's age than Scarlet's
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My choice is Anne Hathaway.

Once thought about Diane Kruger but not all people can accept her looks.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:23 PM
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Your just reminding me the insane chins that are in One Piece.
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Your just reminding me the insane chins that are in One Piece.
I don't even know what One Piece is, and I agree.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:31 AM
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You guys are all wrong.

Here's a concept art for Jaina's new look:



Also uh, yeah sounds like they might be updating Dustwallow. Or perhaps the pre-MoP event will just become part of the Dustwallow questing experience after the game comes out. (That'd seem like a better use of resources to me.)
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:30 AM
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Also uh, yeah sounds like they might be updating Dustwallow. Or perhaps the pre-MoP event will just become part of the Dustwallow questing experience after the game comes out. (That'd seem like a better use of resources to me.)
My hope is that we get a revamp of Dustwallow and Arathi in accordance with the destruction of Theramore for Horde and trials of the high king for the Alliance. Scenarios can cover both events at max level and later on when they finish revamping the old models they fix the Belf and Draenei starting areas.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:12 AM
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Dave Kosak said in an interview that they aren't going to revamp Arathi, yet.
But he said that Dustwallow Marsh will reflect the events that will happen in Theramore.
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