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Old 06-10-2012, 08:42 AM
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Wow, my memory is really volatile. I've read that issue not so long ago and I forgot about it already.

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Old 06-11-2012, 04:03 PM
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In addition to JLI, DC has cancelled Captain Atom, Voodoo and Resurrection Man.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:53 PM
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In addition to JLI, DC has cancelled Captain Atom, Voodoo and Resurrection Man.
What a tragedy.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:38 PM
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What a tragedy.
Seeing Voodoo get cancelled reminds me of how badly DC failed at the whole Wildstorm integration thing. They just threw Martian Manhunter on Stormwatch.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:04 PM
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Seeing Voodoo get cancelled reminds me of how badly DC failed at the whole Wildstorm integration thing. They just threw Martian Manhunter on Stormwatch.
Pretty much, yeah. The thing is, they tried to leverage Wildstorm characters that never carried their own books. Voodoo was destined to fail. Why didn’t they just do WildC.A.T.S. and the Authority?
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:26 PM
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JLI is confirmed cancelled, and I figure that DC will axe three more series to keep it all at 52.
I've been reading the current JLI, and while I don't think it's bad, I can't say I'll miss it. It was just...there.

I also don't really get the concept. The whole, "backed by the U.N. for legitimacy" thing seems more like something that would work in Marvel, where the civilians are all entitled asses who crap on the superheroes and call for their imprisonment on a daily basis. The DC civvies always seemed a lot more laid back and accepting.
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:42 PM
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Pretty much, yeah. The thing is, they tried to leverage Wildstorm characters that never carried their own books. Voodoo was destined to fail. Why didn’t they just do WildC.A.T.S. and the Authority?
Well, the concept of the Authority was kinda absorbed by both Justice League and Stormwatch, so I've heard. Voodoo was a pretty obvious attempt to fill a minority quota. Team 7 sounds like a step in the right direction to me.
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:41 AM
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This would have made me /care about Wolverine.

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Old 06-20-2012, 01:06 PM
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Many new comics.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:36 AM
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Many new comics.
Indeed.

Venom is a freakin' awesome book.

AvX 6 was pretty interesting.
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:00 PM
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Indeed.

Venom is a freakin' awesome book.

AvX 6 was pretty interesting.
Venom had kind of lost me as of late, but #19 was really good. It was mean, really. Poor Flash.

I thought AvX #6 was great, definitely the right choice for Hickman.

Uncanny X-Men #14 was fantastic.
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:49 PM
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So, how long before Cyclops becomes a super-villain? He's been building to a heel turn for years now, hanging out with Magneto and all that shit, and now this.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:15 PM
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Venom had kind of lost me as of late, but #19 was really good. It was mean, really. Poor Flash.
It was nasty, but it really got be invested in a way that say, Spider-man, can’t because here their really was a danger that they were going to kill off Flash’ entire family and supporting cast.


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Uncanny X-Men #14 was fantastic.
Indeed. Sinister with his army of X-Clones. I’ve never been more interested in the character.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:32 PM
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It was nasty, but it really got be invested in a way that say, Spider-man, can’t because here their really was a danger that they were going to kill off Flash’ entire family and supporting cast.
The Savage Six are really feeling like one of the most effective villain teams in quite some time. Crime-Master has really just out-played Flash from every angle. Not since Kingpin found out Daredevil's identity has a villain so perfectly destroyed a hero's life.

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Indeed. Sinister with his army of X-Clones. I’ve never been more interested in the character.
Hell, I've never been interested in the guy period.

I loved the Gambit clones. "Is the accent genetic?"
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:30 PM
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Halfie, Gurtrogg, anyone, I have a question about Marvel's Thor...

I only have a couple of Thor comics, from the "Thor Disassembled" story. Most of what I know about the character is from the movies and cartoons. Are the mythological Norse stories actually canon in the comic book Marvel universe? In the movie, Thor's scientist friend was somehow the only one who was a little familiar with the tales, but these tales were predicting the future of Asgard (Loki's betrayal, Ragnarok, etc.), but for some reason no one from Asgard was interested in the precognitive abilities of their worshipers. Is this the same as in the comics?

Wouldn't Thor and the other Asgardians be interested in learning the details of Ragnarok from the writings of the ancient precognitive worshipers of his people?
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:20 PM
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Halfie, Gurtrogg, anyone, I have a question about Marvel's Thor...

I only have a couple of Thor comics, from the "Thor Disassembled" story. Most of what I know about the character is from the movies and cartoons. Are the mythological Norse stories actually canon in the comic book Marvel universe? In the movie, Thor's scientist friend was somehow the only one who was a little familiar with the tales, but these tales were predicting the future of Asgard (Loki's betrayal, Ragnarok, etc.), but for some reason no one from Asgard was interested in the precognitive abilities of their worshipers. Is this the same as in the comics?

Wouldn't Thor and the other Asgardians be interested in learning the details of Ragnarok from the writings of the ancient precognitive worshipers of his people?
In the comics, the majority of the myths have already happened by the time Thor becomes a hero. Loki's first comic appearance, for example, featured him breaking out of a prison he was put in by Odin for being evil.

The myths that haven't happened, like Ragnarok, are treated by the Asgardians as prophecy. There is a cycle. Ragnarok has happened many times before, with the Asgardians recreated at the end to do it all again. They know exactly how its going to happen.

The most recent occurrence in Thor Disassembled had Thor break the cycle, so it won't happen again. Thor broke the Loom of the Norns, which left the Asgardians in limbo until Thor brought them back in the time after Civil War.
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Old 06-24-2012, 08:33 PM
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Mythological stories are canon in that Norse Mythology exists and is known. However, everything that happened in Norse myth isn’t necessary what actually happened in the Marvel Universe with the Norse Gods that actually exist… if you get what I’m saying.

Additionally, some prophecies are known. For example, in the recent “Fear Itself” arc, the main villain was “the Serpent.” They made a big deal about the Serpent being prophesized to kill Thor, and they all knew this prophecy, and he did end up killing Thor. He got better though.
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Old 06-24-2012, 08:36 PM
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Additionally, some prophecies are known. For example, in the recent “Fear Itself” arc, the main villain was “the Serpent.” They made a big deal about the Serpent being prophesized to kill Thor, and they all knew this prophecy, and he did end up killing Thor. He got better though.
He got better from dead?
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it's marvel. They're worse than DC, which in turn is worse than marvel. In essence: no one stays dead. Except when they do, but even those that do usually don't (I'm looking at you, Flash).
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:54 AM
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Generally, the only characters that stay dead are supporting characters or superpowered characters that nobody cares about. And honestly, that's generally fine by me. For most companies, its a no-win scenario. People will whine to hell and back when a character comes back, and will whine just as much if a character stays dead.
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:54 AM
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Has anyone here read Pride of Baghdad?
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:46 PM
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Marvel teases: "This is War"

I figure this is probably Ultron War. But the fact that its being announced in the Spidey panel makes me think that it might be the Reckoning War that Dan Slott has been trying to write for a while now.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:56 PM
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I don't like Batman but I LOVE Black Panther. How is that even possible, guys? I don't understand.

Actually, I DO like Batman with Adam West, Tim Burton's Batman and the Arkham games. I just dislike the Nolan movies. Haven touched a comic ever.

But this post isn't about Batman. I can't believe how awesome T'Challa is.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:02 AM
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T'Challa is cool. I'm glad he's finally back with the Avengers.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:26 AM
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Thanks for answering my question, I have another one:

My dabbling in Marvel started with and was always centered around the X-Men. I understand why many humans fear the mutants, they're a new species of the Homo genus that is destined to replace them, and they have powers which threatens security. The humans would see themselves as inferior.

But looking at the broader Marvel universe, those last two points extends to almost every other non-mutant hero. If I am not mistaken, the Fantastic Four in particular are basically celebrities and generally well-loved. Every non-mutant seems to be at least more respected and adored than a mutant (with varying levels). If you already hate and fear mutants, why would you give a pass to an equally dangerous metahuman? I don't know if that term is used in Marvel. Why would you fear Iceman and his powers and not fear The Human Torch and his powers?

I also always assumed that what happened to them in space had actually triggered the X-gene and turned them into mutants also, but I don't know if that's true or not.

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