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Old 06-16-2012, 05:56 AM
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Default Can The Burning Legion be totally destroyed ?

Even if the Army of Light manages to kill Sargeras and most of Nathrezim, and Eredar forces, do you think the Burning Legion would cease to exist ? What will happen with all low tier demons when they are left without leaders ?
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:57 AM
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A civil war will break out. Because I think that the demons are controlled by their leaders > leaders killed > bickery > war.
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Even if the Army of Light manages to kill Sargeras and most of Nathrezim, and Eredar forces, do you think the Burning Legion would cease to exist ? What will happen with all low tier demons when they are left without leaders ?
There have always been demons since before the Burning Legion. There were Demons before the Titans figured out how to navigate the Great Dark. It would seem that the neather or fel magic will persist with or without bodies to corrupt. So in a way, if these demons ever organise again... then yes... they will always be a Legion as long as there life to corrupt. Sargeras likely lost hope because of this realisation that Demons are part of the natural order of the cosmos.
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Inb4 "there must always be a Dark Titan"

I believe that the Burning Legion, as an organisation, can be defeated and will be at some point. Some demons will however always persist - even if in smaller groups and becoming just slightly annoying. Also, there will probably be a break-away faction we'll get to get reputation with, and that faction will end up surviving the Legion and becoming a major PITA, even if theoretically allied to us.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:07 AM
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Maybe, if we start blowing up planets



Azeroth is so pulling out a Heroes of Might and Magic IV eventually
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:37 AM
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The demons probably destroy all the planets they encounter, except for the planet of their heritage (also speculation), so we just need to go to their homeplanets and SLAUGHTER them all!
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There must always be *OMINOUS THUNDER AND LIGHTNING CRASH* A Dark Titan!
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There must always be *OMINOUS THUNDER AND LIGHTNING CRASH* A Dark Titan!
Little late to the game on that one.
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Inb4 "there must always be a Dark Titan"

I believe that the Burning Legion, as an organisation, can be defeated and will be at some point. Some demons will however always persist - even if in smaller groups and becoming just slightly annoying. Also, there will probably be a break-away faction we'll get to get reputation with, and that faction will end up surviving the Legion and becoming a major PITA, even if theoretically allied to us.
Neutral Illidari would fit the bill, would they not?
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:11 AM
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Azeroth is so pulling out a Heroes of Might and Magic IV eventually
In... what sense? I'm not familiar with the game.
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In... what sense? I'm not familiar with the game.
In HoMaM the main planet was destroyed, and the inhabitants took a portal to a new world to restart.
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The demons probably destroy all the planets they encounter, except for the planet of their heritage (also speculation), so we just need to go to their homeplanets and SLAUGHTER them all!
Remember that demons, at least the upper tiers, go back to the nether when killed, to come back sooner or later. So unless we combine the power of three and figure out a vanquishing potion, the threat of a demon army will always be there.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:22 PM
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Remember that demons, at least the upper tiers, go back to the nether when killed, to come back sooner or later. So unless we combine the power of three and figure out a vanquishing potion, the threat of a demon army will always be there.
Shouldn't killing them in the nether finish them off for good?
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Shouldn't killing them in the nether finish them off for good?
Yes but physics aside, are non-demonic corporeal demons able to survive in the nether? If it's dark matter-like, which from what I understand seems that way, how would we be able to survive in there?

I guess Naruu could pull off some nifty tricks in there, I would imagine it would be pretty hard to get in there.
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Yes but physics aside, are non-demonic corporeal demons able to survive in the nether? If it's dark matter-like, which from what I understand seems that way, how would we be able to survive in there?

I guess Naruu could pull off some nifty tricks in there, I would imagine it would be pretty hard to get in there.
Well Outland is located in the Twisting Nether, and players are able to visit it by flying beyond Outland's edges.

To my understanding, it's more like a gigantic portal plane that connects worlds, and whenever someone opens a portal to other worlds they are basically opening the door for the demons.
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Well Outland is located in the Twisting Nether, and players are able to visit it by flying beyond Outland's edges.

To my understanding, it's more like a gigantic portal plane that connects worlds, and whenever someone opens a portal to other worlds they are basically opening the door for the demons.
But yet, you can see Azeroth, when you are on top of the Black Temple. Or is it just an easter egg ?
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But yet, you can see Azeroth, when you are on top of the Black Temple. Or is it just an easter egg ?
Well since the border between Outland and the Nether is kinda broken you can see other worlds, even if those words still have an intact border. All worlds are connected via the Nether after all.
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:45 PM
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The Nether in WoW seems to be a mix of the Astral Plane in many Dungeons and Dragons settings and the Immaterium in Warhammer 40,000 (which may, in turn, be somewhat based upon the Astral Plane).
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If the universe hasn't managed to wipe out the Draenei, or the Illidari, or the Scourge, or the High Elves, or the city of Dalaran, or the world of Draenor (even if the name changed to Outland), then I find it difficult to believe that any race or faction can be wiped out. Including the Burning Legion.
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If the universe hasn't managed to wipe out the Draenei, or the Illidari, or the Scourge, or the High Elves, or the city of Dalaran, or the world of Draenor (even if the name changed to Outland), then I find it difficult to believe that any race or faction can be wiped out. Including the Burning Legion.
But we wiped out the Scarlet Crusade!
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If the universe hasn't managed to wipe out the Draenei, or the Illidari, or the Scourge, or the High Elves, or the city of Dalaran, or the world of Draenor (even if the name changed to Outland), then I find it difficult to believe that any race or faction can be wiped out. Including the Burning Legion.
All those survived because the enemy obviously forgot to destroy all the Town Halls, and they just trained more peons.
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But we wiped out the Scarlet Crusade!
If I'm reading the wiki correctly, then the Scarlet Crusade changed to the Scarlet Onslaught and is still active. Similar to how Draenor changed to Outland and is still active.

Aren't there still Old Horde holdouts in Khaz Modan, or did they finally get finished off?
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:35 AM
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But yet, you can see Azeroth, when you are on top of the Black Temple. Or is it just an easter egg ?
As Nazja wrote, all worlds are connected through the twisting nether. Azeroth is the habitable world closest to Draenor through the twisting nether.

The twisting nether does remind me of the electric universe theory/hypothesis, which states that all solar systems are connected through immense birkeland streams, like pearls on a string.
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:42 AM
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Oh, and also the Skull of Gul'dan.

People can die, but there are a LOT of things that probably cannot be completely destroyed.
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If I'm reading the wiki correctly, then the Scarlet Crusade changed to the Scarlet Onslaught and is still active. Similar to how Draenor changed to Outland and is still active.

Aren't there still Old Horde holdouts in Khaz Modan, or did they finally get finished off?
There are still some Dragonmaw orcs not loyal to the New Horde in the Wetlands.
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