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Old 06-19-2012, 03:00 PM
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Tuskar have you kidnapping and I assume killing babies and they harvest the sea creatures like no others.
They may or may not kill them. The level of evil in their actions is left up to the player.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:07 PM
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:11 PM
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The list of races most people are mentioning is starting to weirdly align with the list of my personal favourite races...
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:16 PM
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They may or may not kill them. The level of evil in their actions is left up to the player.
Actually, the daily quest text explicitly says you're kidnapping the babies to ensure that the wolvar have a chance to live on. Of course, we could argue about the loss of wolvar culture and such with these actions.

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The Snowfall Glade wolvar have as much right to exist as do we. You and I will see to it that they get that chance.

If Elder Ko'nani hasn't asked you already, he will ask you to deal with them. While you're upon the glade to the north, I'd like you to bag up their pups and bring them back to me.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:20 PM
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Actually, the daily quest text explicitly says you're kidnapping the babies to ensure that the wolvar have a chance to live on. Of course, we could argue about the loss of wolvar culture and such with these actions.
Yes, but you never see any babies being raised, and some other details, implying to some that he is lying.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:31 PM
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Yes, but you never see any babies being raised, and some other details, implying to some that he is lying.
What is his motive? We massacre the adult wolvar. If he wanted them to die, they would have anyway due to exposure. The only sensible alternative theory is that they sacrifice Wolvar to some higher power, and that doesn't exactly pass the smell test.

Care to take a tally of how many quests where we "rescue" someone, keeping track of how many rescuees we see later under the care of the person who sent us to do the rescuing? Is it rampant behavior in Azeroth to send people to rescue others, just so you can murder them after the rescuers leave? Blizzard said they didn't intend to update Northrend for Cataclysm, anyway. The fact that they didn't phase babies in means little. Hell, millions of players have a wolvar pup following them around. Part of the chain to get him as a follower includes taking a pup from the orphanage back to his home at Snowfall Glade.

I mean, not to get too serious or anything. But it seems like a silly pointless conspiracy.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:09 PM
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What is his motive? We massacre the adult wolvar. If he wanted them to die, they would have anyway due to exposure. The only sensible alternative theory is that they sacrifice Wolvar to some higher power, and that doesn't exactly pass the smell test.
Food, bait, sacrifices... maybe they do raise them.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:30 PM
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Meh the only thing i remember a sporeling do that is bad, is not paying his debt.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:56 PM
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Meh the only thing i remember a sporeling do that is bad, is not paying his debt.
He payed it, but not in an accepted currency.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:19 PM
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Pandaren.

Simple as that. Before I would have said Tauren or draenei, but given the draenei come from the eredar race and most of those that didn't follow in exile became the legions highest ranking demons, shows how there race was easily persuaded.
And Tauren of course overall a noble race, but have the grimtotem over there shoulder.

The worst the pandaren have are the slightly darker methods of the shado-pan.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:21 PM
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Pandaren can join the horde therefore some of them support genocide. Doesn't seem very nice to me.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:44 PM
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Tuskar have you kidnapping and I assume killing babies and they harvest the sea creatures like no others.
I didn't kill those poor Wolvar cubs.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:48 PM
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Only 1/7th of the Titans' elite are evil, so I'm going to go with them.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:12 AM
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Zandalari Trolls, saving your race from extinction is good. All other races are Titan made anyway while the Trolls were the original sentinent species of the planet. So everyone else including the Titans is evil while the Trolls are good.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:11 AM
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Zandalari Trolls, saving your race from extinction is good. All other races are Titan made anyway while the Trolls were the original sentinent species of the planet. So everyone else including the Titans is evil while the Trolls are good.
Are we talking about the same trolls that when in need of new home decided to INVADE instead of asking nicely? It's like a hobo broke into your house and started yelling at you "GET THE FUCK OUT, I DON'T HAVE A HOUSE!"
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:32 AM
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Zandalari Trolls, saving your race from extinction is good. All other races are Titan made anyway while the Trolls were the original sentinent species of the planet. So everyone else including the Titans is evil while the Trolls are good.
Your species almost going extinct because you can't play well with others is not good.
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Only 1/7th of the Titans' elite are evil, so I'm going to go with them.
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Algalon the Observer yells: I have seen worlds bathed in the Makers' flames. Their denizens fading without so much as a whimper. Entire planetary systems born and raised in the time that it takes your mortal hearts to beat once. Yet all throughout, my own heart, devoid of emotion... of empathy. I... have... felt... NOTHING! A million, million lives wasted. Had they all held within them your tenacity? Had they all loved life as you do?
Algalon the Observer yells: Perhaps it is your imperfection that which grants you free will. That allows you to persevere against cosmically calculated odds. You prevailed where the Titans' own perfect creations have failed.
Algalon the Observer yells: I've rearranged the reply code. Your planet will be spared. I cannot be certain of my own calculations anymore.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:44 PM
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RPG aside, I still think they are more lawful neutral, not evil. Resetting planets may be some form of universal utilitarianism.
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Still least villainous.
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