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Old 06-29-2012, 12:34 AM
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:43 AM
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:45 AM
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When is the Dark Rider comic gonna release?
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:25 AM
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It sounds like a gay pornography studio lol.

But yeah, I would support it. Especially if Stonewatch gets used!

To bad we will likely neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever see the old world change again in WoW.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:31 AM
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I will look harder, but I remember this being said. There is a horse motif in there. Maybe only in the stables, I forget, but the busts were put there as a call back to the Brotherhood, not just horses.

Edit: I guess I was remembering the article. The Brotherhood inspired the horse heads, but it does not say they were based there. So, what in-universe reason would there be for Brotherhood-inspired horse heads? Medivh's whim?

See if my tweak works. I encourage sane people point out and debate this stuff.
Basically, the article it details how the New York Times was there with the designers, who already had horse heads, and Metzen happened to walk in and spitball some ideas about why a horse head may be there. I really don’t think you can draw anything canon from that, honestly. At best, you can include a reference that the horse heads may have been inspired by the BoH.

And now you all know the danger of trusting wikis.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:08 AM
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And now you all know the danger of trusting wikis.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:09 AM
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At least they should let us know what are them and who is behind them.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:35 AM
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It sounds like a gay pornography studio lol.

But yeah, I would support it. Especially if Stonewatch gets used!

To bad we will likely neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever see the old world change again in WoW.
Eh, I could see them changing up a few things here and there, it's not comparable to the massive time sink they underwent with changing the two continents.

If you want a gameplay reason, it could probably be some sort of daily area for Alliance only, and you'd need a Horde counterpart. Or maybe they just both are intended to do something with Karazhan in the future (BotH not necessarily being there)
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:06 PM
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For the record, I support anything involving Kara, there for my support of this is bias from the get go.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:30 AM
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Throwing this out there since the Dark Riders were mentioned.
I don't think they are DK-ified brotherhood of the Horse members.

The epilogue to the hardcover edition of Curse of the Worgen went over Velinde Starsong's story, which I'm sure most of you already know. She found the Scythe of Elune, summoned too many worgen to control, and went to ask Arugal for advice but died in a mine in Duskwood. However, the epilogue gave us more.

She was killed by a group of four worgen operating out of Karazhan who wanted the Scythe to usurp Alpha Prime's power. They attacked her and the mine collapsed, but they didn't get the Scythe.

Now doesn't that sound like the Dark Riders? Using Karazhan as a base and wanting the Scythe of Elune?
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:16 PM
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We should see more Stormwind mages in place of Dalaran mages if they're going to keep Dalaran as neutral.

Stormwind mages are better anyways and have a greater track record of success.
You are right. Stormwind needs more lore. With Dalaran neutral, Stormwind should become the Alliance's main mage city. Maybe, when Theramore gets destroyed, may be Jaina can be in the Mage Quarter, and there can be a quest chain for only mages.

That aside, the Brotherhood of the Horse should definitely be reformed.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:10 AM
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It would be nice, that, since adventurers have cleaned out Karazhan, that Stormwind moves in and cleans up the ruins and rebuilds the Brotherhood of the Horse.

And a combination of Stormwind Mages / Alliance Knights (Warriors) rebuild it and uncover books of lore from Medivh to help them in the war against the Horde (well, after pandaria, the [new threat that's not the Horde, since we are pals]). Could have a phased questing area for all Alliance questers, and further class quests for Mages (and hush hush, Warlocks. Don't tell anyone that the Warlocks are here! Everyone knows the Alliance doesn't allow Warlocks!) and Warriors.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:45 AM
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It would be nice, that, since adventurers have cleaned out Karazhan, that Stormwind moves in and cleans up the ruins and rebuilds the Brotherhood of the Horse.

And a combination of Stormwind Mages / Alliance Knights (Warriors) rebuild it and uncover books of lore from Medivh to help them in the war against the Horde (well, after pandaria, the [new threat that's not the Horde, since we are pals]). Could have a phased questing area for all Alliance questers, and further class quests for Mages (and hush hush, Warlocks. Don't tell anyone that the Warlocks are here! Everyone knows the Alliance doesn't allow Warlocks!) and Warriors.
The Clerics of Northshire should also be be reformed and this time, it should consist of priests that not only heal, but also priests who deal large amounts of holy damage.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:02 AM
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I'd rather that Stormwind not get a heavier Lightist bent than it already has.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:06 AM
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I'd rather that Stormwind not get a heavier Lightist bent than it already has.
Stormwind is at the moment, Humanity's last kingdom. So, it should be known for
its religiousness and it should be the main priest centre of the Alliance, considering that their prince is a priest.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:09 AM
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Stormwind is at the moment, Humanity's last kingdom. So, it should be known for
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:15 AM
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Stormwind is at the moment, Humanity's last kingdom. So, it should be known for
its religiousness and it should be the main priest centre of the Alliance, considering that their prince is a priest.
Lordaeron was the religious flavored kingdom.

Stormwind is pretty much the jack of all trades kingdom.
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I don't see the connection.
Out of the surviving kingdoms, Stormwind is definitely the most religious. I want Stormwind to get some priest lore, as at the moment, it hardly gets any lore. May be, there can be something like this-
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:42 PM
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Out of the surviving kingdoms, Stormwind is definitely the most religious. I want Stormwind to get some priest lore, as at the moment, it hardly gets any lore. May be, there can be something like this-
Paladins=Lordareon
Priests=Stormwind
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I don't see the connection.
Some people really don't like settings with humans without religiosity to speak of. Some Americans, anyway, I can't speak for populations of other countries. It ruins their immersion.
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No, I can understand medieval-like humans being religious, I just didn't get the assumption that Stormwind becoming the last big human kingdom means that it should get (Lordaeron's, I think) shtick about being the "holiest" nation.

If anything, Stormwind having clerics and paladins just proves their "jack of all trades" status, which the nation already had to develop being at the forefront of "human world", surrounded by hostile natives. Which could be interesting, though out of place in WoW-times, in my opinion. Now, if we had a pre-WC1 setting...
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No, I can understand medieval-like humans being religious, I just didn't get the assumption that Stormwind becoming the last big human kingdom means that it should get (Lordaeron's, I think) shtick about being the "holiest" nation.

If anything, Stormwind having clerics and paladins just proves their "jack of all trades" status, which the nation already had to develop being at the forefront of "human world", surrounded by hostile natives. Which could be interesting, though out of place in WoW-times, in my opinion. Now, if we had a pre-WC1 setting...
Well, I get your point. What I actually want is some human priest lore as currently, their "religious" lore is dominated by paladins, all the time. And I want lore of human priests purging their enemies, not just healing their allies(well,I have always been a fan of priests).
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Well, I get your point. What I actually want is some human priest lore as currently, their "religious" lore is dominated by paladins, all the time. And I want lore of human priests purging their enemies, not just healing their allies(well,I have always been a fan of priests).
Has there been any mention of Clerics existing in modern times?


Regardless, I'm going to take another opportunity to mention how it saddens me that Archbishop Alonsus Faol was retconned as being a Lordaeron archbishop who only heard about the fall of Northshire Abbey. It was much more forceful when he was in Northshire itself and saw how ineffective the Clerics were (presumably witnessing uncountable instances of slaughter against them) while simultaneously seeing the relative effectiveness of Azeroth Nation's Knights... and then traveled with the refugees to Lordaeron. And after reaching it, he and his surviving clerics cooperating with the (highly religious) knights and clergy of Lordaeron to create the Knights of the Silver Hand.

In my opinion, that will always be a better story than "Archbishop Faol of Lordaeron heard that the Northshire clerics weren't effective, so he decided to invent the Paladins."
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Has there been any mention of Clerics existing in modern times?


Regardless, I'm going to take another opportunity to mention how it saddens me that Archbishop Alonsus Faol was retconned as being a Lordaeron archbishop who only heard about the fall of Northshire Abbey. It was much more forceful when he was in Northshire itself and saw how ineffective the Clerics were (presumably witnessing uncountable instances of slaughter against them) while simultaneously seeing the relative effectiveness of Azeroth Nation's Knights... and then traveled with the refugees to Lordaeron. And after reaching it, he and his surviving clerics cooperating with the (highly religious) knights and clergy of Lordaeron to create the Knights of the Silver Hand.

In my opinion, that will always be a better story than "Archbishop Faol of Lordaeron heard that the Northshire clerics weren't effective, so he decided to invent the Paladins."
Oh, Faol was retconned to be a Lordareonian? When?
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