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#77
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They are tougher, can regenerate, and some of them are designed for it.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Jun 2010
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So I've never played the Enslavers campaign and don't really have the time to at the moment, but I'm wondering:
At various points the heroes of the campaign defeat cerebrates in the service of Schezar's Scavengers or Ulrezaj... but I'm not sure if they have any dark templars. How is that possible? Are the cerebrates only immortal when the overmind is alive, and since the overmind is dead, any old thing can kill a cerebrate? |
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![]() Elune Join Date: Jun 2010
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![]() Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006
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Thus, no more Overmind probably meant no more immortality for the remaining Cerebrates. Though I seem to recall that the Cerebrates under the control of the UED via the second Overmind had to be killed by Dark Templar, so it may be that even a docile and incomplete Overmind provided enough of a centralized consciousness for the Cerebrates' immortality to kick in. Last edited by ARM3481 : 07-23-2012 at 07:39 PM. |
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![]() Mountain Giant Join Date: Oct 2008
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The bit you are thinking of in the zerg campaign where Kerrigan blackmails Zeratul and the dark templar into helping her is to kill the new overmind, there are no cerebrates in that mission. While fact-checking I also found this: Quote:
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Are neural inhibitors, psychic dampeners and neuro-adjusters the same things? Ghosts are said to be implanted with all of them, and they all seem to have roughly the same effect of limiting psionic powers and wiping memory. But I believe the Nova novel implies dampeners were retired after Kerrigan's defection while Spectres implies inhibitors are still in use, leading me to think they're all different things.
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Inhibit, Dampen and Adjust. One implies preventing, one implies muting the last implies altering states. |
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A psychic dampener strikes me as being geared toward suppressing a psychic's uncontrolled, latent power. In other words, something that prevents the implanted psychics from inadvertently killing other people or themselves with their powers, while maybe also protecting them against being constantly bombarded by the thoughts of everyone around them.
A neural inhibitor sounds like something that would prevent a Ghost or Spectre from accessing certain of their memories or behavioral tendencies that would compromise their handlers' ability to keep them under control. Like an implant used for resocialization that's meant to counter the possibility of a Ghost using his or her abilities to circumvent less invasive methods of behavioral programming. Neuro-adjusters comes across to me like something meant to impose specific desired behavioral patterns onto an implanted psychic, like obedience to their trainers/ranking officers and perhaps a heightened resistance to or disregard for personal feelings of doubt and remorse. I'm largely going by the names, though. Psychic dampener in particular sounds focused on affecting what makes a psychic a psychic, while the latter two sound more like the tools used to neurologically keep a psychic in line once his or powers are reigned in by the dampening. Last edited by ARM3481 : 07-31-2012 at 07:23 PM. |
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Is the civilian government of Umoja ever referred to as "the Protectorate", or is "the Protectorate" solely Umoja's government's armed forces?
Basically, would referring to someone as a "Protectorate citizen" be valid, or would it be as silly as calling someone an "Army citizen"? |
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I think it's both? I'm mainly going on the information from here.
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Umojan_Protectorate |
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I always assumed that the Protectorate was the government itself.
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I always found the name weird. Isn't a protectorate when an external military force comes to a less well defended state and declares that they'll protect it? I always found it odd that Umoja basically declared itself a protectorate of itself.
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The idea is the Umojan Millitary is a Protectorate because they couldn't possibly fight off the Confederacy/Dominion on it's own, so they support others in doing it instead. Where one colony couldn't hope to win, one colony supporting a bunch of smaller ones might have a chance. As for the original question, based on what I stated above, I think anyone from a colony that has joined the fold of the Umojan Protectorate could be called a citizen of the Protectorate. The idea is it's an alliance of little guys sponsored by the Umojans to fight the big guy. |
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But unlike the Confederacy, Dominion or Combine, the Umojan Protectorate has never been portrayed as extending to many planets. They're pretty much solidly focused on Umoja and Umoja alone.
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The Umojan Protectorate was a "nationalised militia" and "a strong military force" in their first mention, yet it also seems to be a term used for the entity, led by the Council, that presides over their territories.
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