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Old 01-20-2013, 01:54 AM
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Anubisaths.

How likely do you guys think it is they're enslaved Titan constructs, like the Obsidian Destroyers? They use the typical Watcher animations, plus there's this guy:

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=39373
I actually have a bit of a theory about that. The original bestiary entries for Anubisaths spoke of the Twin Emperors personally overseeing their creation in the "ever-burning fires" beneath Ahn'Qiraj (which, incidentally, players never got to see).

So, I think Ahn'Qiraj might have originally housed Uldum's own Forge of Wills equivalent, where its tol'vir, Watchers and other constructs were originally built. Then when it fell to corruption, the Qiraji could have taken over the forge - the "ever-burning fires" - and C'thun showed them how to basically create their own constructs, resulting in the Anubisaths and Horusath (Ossirian) bearing such marked similarities to Setesh and Rajh, respectively.

It's just a theory, but it would account for the parallels in appearance between Anubisaths and one of the Watchers in Uldum, while also remaining compatible with the existing Anubisath lore. Kind of like how Yogg-Saron had Loken creating armies of Stormforged soldiers with the titans' machinery.

Though it's always possible that the original lore was scrapped entirely, and that the Anubisaths have been retroactively made into preexisting titan constructs that were then corrupted by C'thun like the obsidian destroyers.

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Old 01-20-2013, 06:26 AM
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Since the demonym of Kul Tiras is "Tirassian", I suppose that the demonym of Lordaeron is "Lordaeronian".

The same in the case of Quel'Thalas: Thalassian (but in this case, the demonym is official).
It might be Lordaeroni, as well.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:59 AM
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Does anyone remember the Ras Frostwhisper quest? Where you turned him INTO a human. So it was the reverse undead -> human.

I wonder if that quest will play any significance in the story, possibly having to do with the Forsaken. I found it incredibly interesting.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:53 AM
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It might be Lordaeroni, as well.
Well, the other "demonym" (although in this case it might be a possesive) we have is that of Tol Barad: Baradin.

Yet, no example of human factions using the "-i" for their nations, factions. But since there's no example in the books, we could freely speculate.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:39 AM
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:27 AM
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Does anyone remember the Ras Frostwhisper quest? Where you turned him INTO a human. So it was the reverse undead -> human.

I wonder if that quest will play any significance in the story, possibly having to do with the Forsaken. I found it incredibly interesting.
This, along with the tauren originally trying to "heal" the undead, are the ways to another interesting speculation.

What would happen to their society, if the Forsaken undead were all reverted back to their living forms?
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:33 AM
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This, along with the tauren originally trying to "heal" the undead, are the ways to another interesting speculation.

What would happen to their society, if the Forsaken undead were all reverted back to their living forms?
Sylvanas would be royally doomed. Unless she pulls a tactical manuever to Sort a truce with the alliance due to the fact theyre all living now.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:34 AM
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But does "living" immediately means "Alliance"?

I think this deserves its own thread.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:42 AM
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But does "living" immediately means "Alliance"?

I think this deserves its own thread.
Well I presume the blight and such chemicals, including the green stuff in undercity, would now be toxic to its former users, leading to a mass exodus to atop the city, and rebuilding it to be more sanitary.

Also they could colonise stromgarde.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:26 AM
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Does anyone remember the Ras Frostwhisper quest? Where you turned him INTO a human. So it was the reverse undead -> human.

I wonder if that quest will play any significance in the story, possibly having to do with the Forsaken. I found it incredibly interesting.
I think liches work differently than your average zombie-like undead because the method of becoming a lich is so dissimilar from the normal procedure, so becoming human again could just been a reversal of the process that put Ras' soul into that phylactery. I don't think it has any practical applications for those who became undead through infection.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:38 AM
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that female model at the beggining looks like an updated human
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:56 AM
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I think liches work differently than your average zombie-like undead because the method of becoming a lich is so dissimilar from the normal procedure, so becoming human again could just been a reversal of the process that put Ras' soul into that phylactery. I don't think it has any practical applications for those who became undead through infection.
I thought the same at first, but when I checked it out, Ras performed suicide on the tainted ground and was specifically raised by the Lich King, and did not, in fact, use a phylactery. Had he simply gone from human to lich, it would be understandable, but he spent some time as a dead body too. Simply revoking the lichification process should have immediately turned him into a pile of old bones, not into a living man.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:59 AM
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that female model at the beggining looks like an updated human
FTFY. It's a female Vrykul.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:14 AM
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Are they still going to make that Trials of the High King stuff?
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:17 AM
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Are they still going to make that Trials of the High King stuff?
Between the fallout over tyrande, the support thats already been given, and how most leaders are already team varian I doubt it.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:21 AM
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Between the fallout over tyrande, the support thats already been given, and how most leaders are already team varian I doubt it.
Then, umm, what are they going to do instead? Because that Trial of the High King stuff talked about at Blizzcon was like the main concession offered by Chris Metzen to Alliance players who were annoyed about Cataclysm.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:38 AM
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Then, umm, what are they going to do instead? Because that Trial of the High King stuff talked about at Blizzcon was like the main concession offered by Chris Metzen to Alliance players who were annoyed about Cataclysm.
Yeah, Alex, what's up with that?
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:48 AM
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Yeah, Alex, what's up with that?
Chris Metzen: Isn't Varian the High King? ...from, uh, Wolfheart?
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:32 AM
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No, the concept of a singular leader was just brought up, and, in fact, he is- was already somehow the leader of the Alliance in Wrath of the Lich King and through Mists of Pandaria.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:25 AM
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No, the concept of a singular leader was just brought up, and, in fact, he is- was already somehow the leader of the Alliance in Wrath of the Lich King and through Mists of Pandaria.
Between Jaina's talk about "my king" and Varian referring to Lordaeron as "our kingdom", I really do wonder if we're going to find out that Varian has been High King of the Alliance for years now.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:55 AM
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Wrathion claims to be the last black dragon alive on Azeroth.

But what about the black dragons still under control of the Dragonmaw Clan? I doubt he could pull a total annihilation of those without prompting a reaction from the Horde.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:56 AM
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Between Jaina's talk about "my king" and Varian referring to Lordaeron as "our kingdom", I really do wonder if we're going to find out that Varian has been High King of the Alliance for years now.
I woundn't find that surprising... Thrall, the Warchief of the Horde, reunited with Varian, king of Stormwind, in Theramore in the WoW Comic.

They tried to make a peace-commercial pact between the Horde and the Alliance...
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:18 PM
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:34 PM
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Then, umm, what are they going to do instead? Because that Trial of the High King stuff talked about at Blizzcon was like the main concession offered by Chris Metzen to Alliance players who were annoyed about Cataclysm.
Varian will just lead

Everyone will just follow

I will just bitch at the conspiracy to railroad tyrande's character
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:59 PM
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Wrathion claims to be the last black dragon alive on Azeroth.

But what about the black dragons still under control of the Dragonmaw Clan? I doubt he could pull a total annihilation of those without prompting a reaction from the Horde.
From Ask CDs 3:

Q: Wrathion constantly claims that he is the last black dragon, but what of Sabellian and the other black dragons in Outland (and even the Netherwing)? Did Wrathion somehow have them killed, or is he ignorant of their existence?
A: Wrathion states, "To my knowledge, I am the only black dragon who remains." Thankfully, Wrathion is not omniscient, and he is simply ignorant of the dragons beyond the Dark Portal. . Both the black dragons under his elder half-brother Sabellian and the Netherwing flight remain in Outland. There is also the possibility that some black dragons on Azeroth have managed to evade Wrathion’s detection as well.
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