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Old 07-09-2012, 12:55 PM
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Whether or not newly raised Forsaken are mind controlled, especially pertaining to those in Andorhal. To wit, Alliance militiamen are killed and immediately raised by Vrykul and start fighting for the Forsaken, and back in the beta they had a debuff (since removed) that indicated they were "charmed" into working for Sylvanas. This runs contrary to the Forsaken national identity, which places a great importance on free will. So if the Forsaken are not mind controlled, why do guys who were just five seconds ago Alliance fighters suddenly work for the Forsaken? News at 11.



We've got a timeline and maybe sometime before the galaxy explodes we'll put it up somewhere.

I see. Thanks for bringing me up to speed on both of those. I'm really interested to see how well all the scrounging I and everyone else has done fits in with the official timeline.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:56 PM
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Inb4 Sylvanas was the one who told the belven government to mind control the Horde dissenters. The question of who wears the pants in QT is an awkward one indeed

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Old 07-09-2012, 01:03 PM
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Whether or not newly raised Forsaken are mind controlled, especially pertaining to those in Andorhal. To wit, Alliance militiamen are killed and immediately raised by Vrykul and start fighting for the Forsaken, and back in the beta they had a debuff (since removed) that indicated they were "charmed" into working for Sylvanas. This runs contrary to the Forsaken national identity, which places a great importance on free will. So if the Forsaken are not mind controlled, why do guys who were just five seconds ago Alliance fighters suddenly work for the Forsaken? News at 11.
And Ambermill. And pretty much everyone else who wasn't raised in Deathknell.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:05 PM
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That didn't make it into ask CDev but it did make it into something a bit further down the pipeline, so stay a while and listen.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:06 PM
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I actually think it's a pretty diplomatic solution, really. I mean people on both sides are gonna be a bit miffed but the only people who will rage were predisposed to doing so.
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The answer is morally dubious without being objectively evil and more importantly, is entirely understandable from a political standpoint.
Remember who you are talking about. It will be objectively evil regardless of anything you say.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:08 PM
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:15 PM
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But will SoL's collective sanity survive?
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:17 PM
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:17 PM
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Bolvar will always survive, and Bolvar is all the sanity SoL needs.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:18 PM
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:20 PM
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Tyr was a titanic construct made of stone and/or metal. It's probably less "regeneration" and more "spare parts". Early humans, by contrast, are explicitly fleshy.
Can these "titanic constructs" get proper race names (for lack of a better term)? I'm leaning towards "watcher," but I have questions about just what that means in regards to other similar/adjacent terms.

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Well, then it sounds like...

"Followers! I could replace this hand easily, with some stone or base metal. It would still be like a hand then, you realize. But instead, I'm going to use SILVER! This kind of metal means it's going to be in a fist forever. For some reason. But, it's more valuable!"
I think it is more like, "I could replace this hand, or I could make a stronger, yet immobile, one out of silver for punching things more."

The Archavon-style stone giants have replaced one hand with a spiked boulder.
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