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Old 03-23-2015, 02:12 PM
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To be fair, it should be abolished, though a different system should be put into place. the IRS should never have been a thing.
Obvious preface of: Not from the States, not intimately familiar with the specifics of the US government, yadda yadda.

But isn't the IRS just an agency in charge of tax collection and policy?
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:54 PM
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To be fair, it should be abolished, though a different system should be put into place. the IRS should never have been a thing.
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:53 PM
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"abolish the Internal Revenue Service"

Wait, what?

How would that work?
I don't see how people think this is ridiculous. We wouldn't need the massive, hideously expensive, and utterly incompetent bureaucracy of the IRS if we reformed our taxes to a low flat tax of 10% across the board.
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:59 PM
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I support simplifying the tax code and shrinking the IRS. We still need it in some capacity.
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:34 PM
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Obvious preface of: Not from the States, not intimately familiar with the specifics of the US government, yadda yadda.

But isn't the IRS just an agency in charge of tax collection and policy?
Not outright abolished - a modern government can't function without an effective means to collect tax revenue.


But some massive overhauls are needed to shrink, simplify, and reorganize the bloated bureaucratic mess that is our tax code.

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Old 03-23-2015, 05:44 PM
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Not outright abolished - a modern government can't function without an effective means to collect tax revenue.


But some massive overhauls are needed to shrink, simplify, and reorganize the bloated bureaucratic mess that is our tax code.
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:46 PM
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I was under the impression tucking a gun into your waistband was a dangerous thing to do, no?
Not if you keep the trigger safely covered.


Hence the holster.


People have different philosophies on whether to carry with a round in the chamber or not. Some say yes, because if you need to use it you probably need it RIGHT THEN and won't have time to work the slide, and others hold that you're more likely to shoot yourself in the leg. Or the crotch. Or the ass.

Depends on where you're keeping it.



In both instances there are numerous anecdotes of people either needing a bullet in the chamber and not having one (with consequences ranging from simply being robbed to being dead), and instances of people shooting themselves in the leg because they're stupid and/or accidents happen. So it's really personal preference.


They also make these things, which do the important thing a holster does (covers the trigger) but doesn't take up as much space. You'd tie the string end to your belt, and if you ever had to draw, it would pop right off.



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/facepalm. Isn't it well known that you never put a gun in your waistband without the safety on?
Silly Yaska, not all handguns have proper safeties! Like that glock. It's only got a "trigger safety," which does fuck-all to actually lock the trigger/firing pin in place and just makes the trigger pull heavier.

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Old 03-23-2015, 06:03 PM
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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...are?cmpid=yhoo

This seems to point towards the new PPACA Supreme Court case being a 5-4 strike down of federally run exchanges getting subsidies.
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:05 PM
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Aye.
Honestly, it's something that needs to be done every few decades or so - the number of exceptions, special cases, and workarounds added to the mix just keep growing and growing until one document contradicts another.
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:12 PM
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Silly Yaska, not all handguns have proper safeties! Like that glock. It's only got a "trigger safety," which does fuck-all to actually lock the trigger/firing pin in place and just makes the trigger pull heavier.
Then it's even more obvious.
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:58 PM
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Honestly, it's something that needs to be done every few decades or so - the number of exceptions, special cases, and workarounds added to the mix just keep growing and growing until one document contradicts another.
See, I was under the impression that a big reason why the code was such a god-awful mess was that a flat tax doesn't work when people try to cheat their way out of it, creating the need for exceptions, special rules, etc., so that the tax code being a god awful mess is an inevitability.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:18 PM
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See, I was under the impression that a big reason why the code was such a god-awful mess was that a flat tax doesn't work when people try to cheat their way out of it, creating the need for exceptions, special rules, etc., so that the tax code being a god awful mess is an inevitability.
If there are very few exceptions, it would be hard for people (and corporations) to cheat their way out of it.

On the taxing issue, I heard recently, of talk of the government (again)_ wanting to tax the health plans of people. More on the Cadillac plans (ie the older ones, pre-Obama care) than the newer ones (post-Obamacare), but it's still disturbing that some in the government think it is ok to tax health plans.. what's next? A tax on the air we breath because it's American air?
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:15 PM
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If there are very few exceptions, it would be hard for people (and corporations) to cheat their way out of it.

On the taxing issue, I heard recently, of talk of the government (again)_ wanting to tax the health plans of people. More on the Cadillac plans (ie the older ones, pre-Obama care) than the newer ones (post-Obamacare), but it's still disturbing that some in the government think it is ok to tax health plans.. what's next? A tax on the air we breath because it's American air?
Funny thing about our health insurance costs: the US government of the Presidency of FDR caused the high costs of health insurance.
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Old 03-24-2015, 06:54 AM
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:35 AM
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Not sure if relevant but...

Canada considering airstrikes into Syria.
If it passes Canada will be the only other country (besides the US) to begin the move in into Syria.

Colour me mildly surprised.
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:40 AM
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Canada considering airstrikes into Syria.
If it passes Canada will be the only other country (besides the US) to begin the move in into Syria.

Colour me mildly surprised.
Not to keep banging on the "not a fan of our current administration" drum, but I'm not surprised they've decided to say "me-too" on this thing, as they have in virtually everything else.
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:42 AM
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Not to keep banging on the "not a fan of our current administration" drum, but I'm not surprised they've decided to say "me-too" on this thing, as they have in virtually everything else.
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Old 03-24-2015, 10:07 AM
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Not to keep banging on the "not a fan of our current administration" drum, but I'm not surprised they've decided to say "me-too" on this thing, as they have in virtually everything else.
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Old 03-24-2015, 12:23 PM
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Canada considering airstrikes into Syria.
If it passes Canada will be the only other country (besides the US) to begin the move in into Syria.

Colour me mildly surprised.
Doesn't France have a carrier doing airstrikes to or are they just avoiding Syria?
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Old 03-24-2015, 12:33 PM
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Doesn't France have a carrier doing airstrikes to or are they just avoiding Syria?
I think France is busy in Africa.
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I think France is busy in Africa.
France is helping in Iraq. So far only the arab countries and US has been flying into eastern Syria.
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:02 PM
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I am sure there are many Canadians that support this mission to protect the Kurds and other minorities.
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:24 PM
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:25 PM
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I am sure there are many Canadians that support this mission to protect the Kurds and other minorities.
But who will protect the minorities from the Kurds? There's been many reports on kurdish abuse of other minorities, especially of the christians.
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:29 PM
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