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Old 12-18-2012, 11:51 AM
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EHRMAFUCKINGGERD!!!!!!!!!!! A TWEET OF MINE GOT ANSWERED BY DAVE KOSAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hey Dave! Are the Gilnean Worgen still humans (but just a little furry) or are they a fully different species now?


@lukevanN Gameplay-wise, Worgen are considered a different race. But lore-wise, most would consider themselves to be human.

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Old 12-18-2012, 11:59 AM
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But lore-wise, most would consider themselves to be human.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:00 PM
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Consider themselves. Race is a state of mind.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:01 PM
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Consider themselves. Race is a state of mind.
True, it's a little vague-ish.
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No pop culture joke? It's the end of the world!
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:06 PM
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Consider themselves. Race is a state of mind.
Maybe ethnicity would differ if the race is relatively the same (an Alsacian being raised out of traditional culture would likely end up just as plain French). But race is pretty much defined at birth and is not to be changed... unless you are a worgen transformer. Or Michael Jackson.

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Old 12-18-2012, 12:24 PM
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I hope he answers me question of Forsaken and rotting.

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"I harbor no hate for yaungol," Min said. "The Shado-pan do only what we must to protect Pandaria. Emotion plays no part in our actions. We train to keep our feelings in check so that they do not control us. But take heart, little one. Those nomads are survivors. Their culture will endure. Most of all, I hope that they learn from these events."
From the new chapter of Lili, the Yaungol will perhaps endure!

Oh, and there's a new wallpaper, the wall looks even mightier than it is now! It must have been one Hell of a job for those slaves to build it...
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:10 PM
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Maybe the next chapter has her get ate by a Mantid in Dread Wastes.
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Maybe the next chapter has her get ate by a Mantid in Dread Wastes.
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The Klaxxi did refere to Azjol'Nerub and Ahn'Qiraj as "sister kingdoms".

Also, as far as I understand, the Nerubians were not serving Yogg-Saron. At least in Warcraft 3, they (represented by Anub'arak) considered the "Forgotten One" a terrible legend and feared it. Correct me if I'm wrong or if later lore contradicts that.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:11 PM
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The Klaxxi did refere to Azjol'Nerub and Ahn'Qiraj as "sister kingdoms".

Also, as far as I understand, the Nerubians were not serving Yogg-Saron. At least in Warcraft 3, they (represented by Anub'arak) considered the "Forgotten One" a terrible legend and feared it. Correct me if I'm wrong or if later lore contradicts that.
To my knowledge, the Nerubians were described as Old God worshippers only in tabletop RPG books, and later in pre-WOTLK statements by the devs, but it never actually amounted to anything in-game. In fact, the Nerubians as seen in WoW are probably atheistic, certainly unfriendly to both the Scourge and the Faceless.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:37 PM
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They abandoned worship of something in the RPG books, and were described as BFFs with the Old Gods in WotLK previews.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:36 PM
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They abandoned worship of something in the RPG books, and were described as BFFs with the Old Gods in WotLK previews.
This is just what I said, like, right above you.
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This is just what I said, like, right above you.
I don't think the RPG ever connected them to worshiping the Old Gods.

BlizzCon 2007 however...
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:53 PM
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According to the snippet for the golden beetle in the pet journal, it used to be a small titanic "helper" of sorts, fixing and repairing old machinery too small for even mechangnomes.

Could it be the original insects used to be this, then the old gods made them servants are fleshifying and uplifting them? Perhaps the old gods are biotech gone wrong?
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:00 PM
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According to the snippet for the golden beetle in the pet journal, it used to be a small titanic "helper" of sorts, fixing and repairing old machinery too small for even mechangnomes.

Could it be the original insects used to be this, then the old gods made them servants are fleshifying and uplifting them? Perhaps the old gods are biotech gone wrong?
It's more likely that the titans made them to look "natural" so they wouldn't be as likely to be destroyed.
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According to the snippet for the golden beetle in the pet journal, it used to be a small titanic "helper" of sorts, fixing and repairing old machinery too small for even mechangnomes.

Could it be the original insects used to be this, then the old gods made them servants are fleshifying and uplifting them? Perhaps the old gods are biotech gone wrong?
I wouldn't rule it out. On top of Pet Battling becoming major lore? Sure, even more so.

However, the titans just seem to like making mechanical animals.
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I wouldn't rule it out. On top of Pet Battling becoming major lore? Sure, even more so.

However, the titans just seem to like making mechanical animals.
Whats the lore snippe for the new robot bear cub? It would be funny if they originally were fuled by alchahol, and thats how they bonded with dwarvesd.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:52 PM
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I don't think the RPG ever connected them to worshiping the Old Gods.
Didn't the RPG have the Nerubian view of worshiping the Old Gods as like a fly stuck on a web worshiping a spider?
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:55 PM
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Whats the lore snippe for the new robot bear cub? It would be funny if they originally were fuled by alchahol, and thats how they bonded with dwarvesd.
"The engineering wizards in Everlook created this unique cub as a test model. Unfortunately a few went rogue and were never recovered."

The one found in Dun Morogh is a cat and was built by gnomes. There's no dwarven engineering pet to be found.
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Whats the lore snippe for the new robot bear cub? It would be funny if they originally were fuled by alchahol, and thats how they bonded with dwarvesd.
The Anodized Robo Cub was made in Everlook. That is about it.

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A seer tells Brann "In Azjol-Nerub, where theological debates were as commonplace as any other form of battle, there were five or six schools of religious thought. Long ago, however, most sensible nerubians came to the conclusion that worshipping creatures from beyond the world is insane. Given the intentions of most such entities toward the world, honoring them makes as much sense as a fly caught in a web worshipping the spider who is about to devour him."

They were probably talking about the Old Gods.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:09 PM
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Right.

I'm guessing the Nerubians may have initially worshiped the Old Gods (probably as part of the collective ancestors of them, the Qiraji, and the Mantid), but then grew apart as they headed north. Would make some sense considering Yogg-Saron had a proper prison (and lack of interaction with Faceless), while C'thun had a hand in the Qiraji even before they broke into Ahn'Qiraj.
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Right.

I'm guessing the Nerubians may have initially worshiped the Old Gods (probably as part of the collective ancestors of them, the Qiraji, and the Mantid), but then grew apart as they headed north. Would make some sense considering Yogg-Saron had a proper prison (and lack of interaction with Faceless), while C'thun had a hand in the Qiraji even before they broke into Ahn'Qiraj.
We really don't know the timeline.
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