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Old 04-30-2014, 11:06 PM
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Default Is anyone else in favor of Orgrimmar remaining an orc city

ORGRIMmar is an orc city, named after an orc. I feel the majority of the guards should be orcish, with a noticable presence of Trolls, and Tauren.

Trolls really need their own identity, besides the Darkspear being the only non loot pinata Tribe. The Darkspear really aren't being helped in any way by becoming wannabe orcs, all it does is dilute both their identity, and that of the orcs.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:10 PM
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Orgrimmar should've been smashed, with Vol'jin making a glorious Tenochtitlan-esque troll capital that combines the Echo Isles with Sen'jin Village, along with some land reclamation.

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Old 04-30-2014, 11:14 PM
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Darkspear Trolls need a city in Stranglethorn vale, along with a new Gnomeregan being built.

The Stranglethorn vale city would have Troll Berserkers, batriders, and maybe even a dire troll or two as the various guards, a Zandalar ambassadors quarters, raptor pen, ETC.

I'm not that much of a gnome expert, but I was thinking a radiation purification chamber, and such for a New Gnomeregan.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:22 PM
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I would've preferred if all races had smaller capitals on par with Bilgewater Harbor then the massive mostly-empty wastes we see today. I'd like a troll capital, I just don't think we need one the size of most cities.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:23 PM
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Well, personally, I'm not really disturbed by the fact that the majority of the guards will be tauren/trolls, because there will still be a few orc guards there as well. Orcs also fought against Garrosh. I think it's important to note than when Garrosh is defeated in SoO and Vol'jin is made Warchief, it is orc grunts he's surrounded by.

Orcs fought against Garrosh's True Horde. Vol'jin isn't going to start shitting on orcs. If he does, he's going to be risking multiple mak'gora challenges from a few pissed off Darkspear Revolutionaries. It was Vol'jin himself who said "Horde is family." He's not going to fuck up Orgrimmar. Everything is gonna be alright.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:23 PM
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I'd like a floating city anchored to the Echo Isles but extending out further and doubling as a port for a Great Sea Expac.



Same basic deal could work for gnomes, except maybe floating in the air if they didn't want to carve it into the western mountains along the coast of Dun Morogh over current Gnomer.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:26 PM
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It's the Horde capital now, not the Orc capital. It's been that way since Cataclysm.

Gotta get used to it, man.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:44 PM
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Much as I dislike that they've gone this route, the orcs have proven that they cannot be trusted under anyone but Thrall. They need to be kept in check, just like the Forsaken needed to be post-Wrathgate with the Kor'kron guards in Undercity.
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It's the Horde capital now, not the Orc capital. It's been that way since Cataclysm.

Gotta get used to it, man.
Its the Orc capital AND the Horde Capital. Same with Stormwind. Most of it is a Orc/Human city, with large sections for the other members of the Horde/Alliance.
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Its the Orc capital AND the Horde Capital. Same with Stormwind. Most of it is a Orc/Human city, with large sections for the other members of the Horde/Alliance.
I wouldn't mind this.

I thought Cataclysm got it down pretty well. Sections for each of the Kalimdor Horde races, but it was still very obviously an Orc-ish city at heart. The other races have their own capitals (bar Trolls) so let the Orcs keep Orgrimmar as the majority. That said they should either expand the Echo Isles or expand the Troll quarter some. Maybe turn Bilgewater Harbour into some form of a functioning capital (Auction House, Bank, etc) if they do the same with Gilneas City.
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Old 05-01-2014, 05:24 AM
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I wouldn't mind this.

I thought Cataclysm got it down pretty well. Sections for each of the Kalimdor Horde races, but it was still very obviously an Orc-ish city at heart. The other races have their own capitals (bar Trolls) so let the Orcs keep Orgrimmar as the majority. That said they should either expand the Echo Isles or expand the Troll quarter some. Maybe turn Bilgewater Harbour into some form of a functioning capital (Auction House, Bank, etc) if they do the same with Gilneas City.
I like the idea of a floating port city for Trolls, something to counter the Alliance having Kul'Tiras exist again.
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I like the idea of a floating port city for Trolls, something to counter the Alliance having Kul'Tiras exist again.
Implying Kul'tiras won't be neutral and/or destroyed.
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:58 AM
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I'd vote for burning it down with the population inside. Or crash it with a mighty tidal wave.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:16 AM
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I wouldn't mind this.

I thought Cataclysm got it down pretty well. Sections for each of the Kalimdor Horde races, but it was still very obviously an Orc-ish city at heart. The other races have their own capitals (bar Trolls) so let the Orcs keep Orgrimmar as the majority. That said they should either expand the Echo Isles or expand the Troll quarter some. Maybe turn Bilgewater Harbour into some form of a functioning capital (Auction House, Bank, etc) if they do the same with Gilneas City.
Unfortunately it was portrayed as segregation, so who knows how it'll be.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:51 AM
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Implying Kul'tiras won't be neutral and/or destroyed.
Gilneas was worgified, so I expect Kul Tiras to be murlocified at some point.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:03 PM
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Gilneas was worgified, so I expect Kul Tiras to be murlocified at some point.
That would be quite the cruel joke.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:25 PM
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That would be quite the cruel joke.
Nagafied? J/K.

Actually, I would see one new race take center stage in Kul'Tiras: Half-Elves. Following the 2nd War, I'd depict the place as a renaissance trading hub, where gnomish sub-pilots, human sailors and elven mariners came together to make a city of knowledge, art, and culture. At this time Elven Sailors would be quite common in Kul Tiras, and occasionally may have some nights of revelry, resulting in half-breed children seen as symbols of Tirassian multi-culturalism. Sadly, after Proudmoore's death, the city fell somewhat into corruption without strong legitimate leadership. The Half Elf story is about cleaning up this city and bringing Kul'Tiras back to being an active part of the Alliance.

Just so you know, I would totally jump ship from Horde to Alliance for this.
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Old 05-01-2014, 07:58 PM
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Personally I'd like there to be an Orc city founded in AU Draenor and a totally logical mass exodus home for the Orcs. It'd be cool if Ogrimmar was a Horde capital with a little more flare. To compinsate Gnomes should build new Gnomeregan.
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Doh.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:29 PM
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I'm actually pretty disappointed that the Horde city in WoD is going to be an ogre citadel. It's cool that you get to kick the ogres out and claim it as your own Conan-style, but "Bonetown" (or Grom'gar, I think it was, in-game?) would've been a hell of a lot cooler and a lot more "Horde." I legitimately thought it was going to be the Horde capital when I first saw it. What's more #savage than building a city inside the skeleton of a giant?

But I guess we get to shuffle around inside cramped, stuffy, dark, smoky stone chambers. It's not like Horde is forced to do this all the time. Looking forward to Warsong Hold/Cata Orgrimmar v2.

Edit: Another thing that pisses me off about this, is that Frostfire is very pleasing to look at. Nice soft, dark colors that are pleasing to look at. Once you get inside Bladespire, you're blasted in the face with red and orange and it's jarring as fuck. I was watching a video just to refresh my memory and practically got a headache from it. You go from cool Frostfire to hot Bladespire and it's not an easy, smooth transition. Just doesn't seem like a good design decision at all, to me.

Grom'gar is nice and airy, with a view of the open sky, flushed with cool colors that won't hurt your eyes as soon as you walk in. Bladespire is cramped, smoky, and red. It pisses me off. I don't imagine I'll be spending much time inside there.

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Old 05-02-2014, 01:07 AM
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Zuldazar for da Troll racial capital!

Shoulda been Echo Isles, but that option went out the window when they decided to make that region into a tiny little cluster of flyspecks; never will serve as a true capital.

Bilgewater, Gilneas, and Gnomer need to get finished out and turned into cities too. It's about yime, anyway.


And I have been disappointed in Bladespire as well, for many reasons. There's still more than six months till release, someone start a campaign to get them to move the Horde capital to Bonetown or somewhere actually cool before it's too late!
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Old 05-02-2014, 01:51 AM
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I really hope Alt Draenor remains in the Main Universe, taking the spot of the destroyed Main Draenor. With this the Horde cannot complain about land as the orcish homeland is huge.
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