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Old 11-01-2016, 09:53 AM
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I'd say Overwatch's biggest problem is the lack of villains, or neutral characters.

Most of the cast are good guys, and you can't really tell the story of a conflict like this. I don't understand why they're even fighting each other anyway.
Yeah I'd like to see more villain characters but also more "villain" skins. Some of them are pretty ambiguous, I suspect given the nature of the game we will slowly get more and more characters that can lean either way, which is kind of the point. The Junkers both are clearly villains, yet have been played out as just mercenaries. The Talon characters we do have are all basically our Villain options: Hanzo, Reaper, Widowmaker and now Sombra. I would expect this trend to continue. As for villain skins I'd consider: Omnic Crisis Bastion, Devil Mercy, Anubis Pharah, Blackhardt Reinhardt to be among those, which are stretches but I think fair.

But yeah, story wise to gameplay the character translation doesn't really work at all. The real hook is the plight of the Omnic, of which a number of both "good" and "bad" characters are more or less racist toward. At it's heart and the maps we have been given this conflict is central to the "story". Calling it a story though is pretty far off. A lack of narative will forever be a plight to this game. Zarya for example is pretty clearly a Villain given her map and personal view points in opposition to the Overwatch modus operandi, but most wouldn't consider her such.

Personally I like my villains deeper and more in the gray territory anyway. Overwatch is doing a good job of this to some extent. Most of the characters could really sway either way in some capacity, which makes how muddled the maps objectives are sort of work. It seems odd that Bastion, Genji and Zenyatta would ever deliver an EMP that would wipe them out to wipe out the Omnics in London, thats a failing but it's honestly a very minor suspension of disbelief you have to give it given the nature of the games core modes. We all want a single player game and given this last months brawl it might actually be possible, but I wouldn't count on ever seeing it. I would like to see more Omnics though, theres a few kicking around in the background of group shots in the art. It's all a matter of time... which is to say... it doesn't feel like they are releasing them fast enough, given how long Sombra has taken it's almost soul crushing. On the other hand how many characters is too many...
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:58 AM
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The lack of omnics is a problem.
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I'd say Overwatch's biggest problem is the lack of villains, or neutral characters.

Most of the cast are good guys, and you can't really tell the story of a conflict like this. I don't understand why they're even fighting each other anyway.
And this.
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Old 11-01-2016, 10:08 AM
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Need Co-Op mode with plot missions.

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This is neat fanart. Would folks have liked this more?



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Old 11-01-2016, 11:43 AM
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Old 11-01-2016, 12:34 PM
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I really sort of expected her to be the leader of the Los Muertos, Which I guess this sort of works as, I kinda wish she was a little more gruff if that was the case. I'm very curious about the implications mechanically of the the hacking ribbons we see in this picture. We know she uses an Uzi as her primary shooty shooty gun, but this is more interesting. Our first look at Ana was her Shrike skin, which is arguably "cooler" than her regular skin, but her regular skin is perfect for invoking the character. I think this will be a similar case.
There's still a good chance she'll turn out to be the leader of Los Muertos. She seems like the type to make her goons tattoo glow-in-the-dark skeletons on their bodies.
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Old 11-01-2016, 12:35 PM
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Need Co-Op mode with plot missions.

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Old 11-01-2016, 01:45 PM
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I want the sidecut meme to end.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:57 PM
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That sombra art looks stupid.

she will probably be a defense minion hero.
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:03 PM
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I want the sidecut meme to end.
Don't you want to be a strong woman who don't need no man, Drusus?
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:07 PM
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Don't you want to be a strong woman who don't need no man, Drusus?
I know a few non-SJW's who have it (and some who are). It still doesn't suit most women in my opinion, but here we are.
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:18 PM
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I know a few non-SJW's who have it (and some who are). It still doesn't suit most women in my opinion, but here we are.
Zyra is a SJW wet dream from her looks, but a nightmare from her opinions.

This one might be the same.
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Old 11-01-2016, 03:19 PM
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I want the sidecut meme to end.
Girl i like has recently a side cut, and 3 different hair colors in the last two months.

Bright purple, Blue, green.

I dont know what im doing with my life.
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Old 11-01-2016, 03:44 PM
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I know a lot of people who have that haircut and I'm just not a fan of it. I don't like any part of anyone's head to be buzzed or shaved. Long leonine manes for all!
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Old 11-01-2016, 03:53 PM
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The Talon characters we do have are all basically our Villain options: Hanzo, Reaper, Widowmaker and now Sombra. .
Hanzo isnt part of talon. widowmaker tries to recruit him in a voicelines, but he turns it down.
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:01 PM
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:20 PM
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I want the sidecut meme to end.
You get triggered by the weirdest shit.
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:29 PM
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Which anime-... Oh?
I thought it was that Hot Yoko Littner.
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:58 PM
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You get triggered by the weirdest shit.
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:59 PM
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Vi >>> Sombra.

Also, Drusus is right. It doesn't look good on most people.
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Old 11-01-2016, 06:01 PM
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Vi >>> Sombra.

Also, Drusus is right. It doesn't look good on most people.
Mallow is best girl

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Old 11-01-2016, 06:41 PM
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Even that is a better character design than Sombra.

Hell all of the new pokemon sun and moon characters are better character design and the same goes for the ultra beasts.
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Old 11-01-2016, 07:45 PM
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Eh, the skirt on Vi screams over designed. Sombra's art is at least consistent if heavy on the techno vibe.

And I'm a fan of symmetrical buzz, but the half shave trend is odd.
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Old 11-01-2016, 08:03 PM
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Even that is a better character design than Sombra.

Hell all of the new pokemon sun and moon characters are better character design and the same goes for the ultra beasts.
Pokemon characters = waifus.

Underaged but waifu material.

Primarily because they want to play pokemon with you.
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Old 11-01-2016, 08:29 PM
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Vi skirt is only there because they went too hardcore with the tech vibe and forgot Piltover is supposed to be steampunk

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I know a lot of people who have that haircut and I'm just not a fan of it. I don't like any part of anyone's head to be buzzed or shaved. Long leonine manes for all!
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Old 11-01-2016, 08:58 PM
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