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Old 04-29-2012, 04:53 PM
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:56 PM
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:14 PM
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Really, something like that leads to such problems?

In my opinion both sides were wrong in some parts.
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:15 PM
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:30 PM
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:20 AM
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I'm gonna ask everyone's opinion on this

http://bigthink.com/ideas/the-fallout-in-cranston
I have read that and 3 other posts by that guy and I can say he is more biased to his agenda then the pope is to Catholicism.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:40 AM
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:59 AM
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Let me know when groups of gay kids are beating Christians to death. Then you can start going on about how tough it is belonging to the privileged class.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:10 AM
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Let me know when groups of gay kids are beating Christians to death. Then you can start going on about how tough it is belonging to the privileged class.
Let me know when a group of Christian kids beats a gay kid to death. Because I'm pretty sure a group of church-going Christians hasn't ever done that.

Savage is the worst sort of self-entitled bully, and is the poster child for exactly what is wrong with the gay rights movement.

But, hey, he's gay, so I guess it's cool for you to justify his hate speech, right? I mean, he's only bashing Christians.

Remember, kids... white people who are straight and Jewish or Christian are "privileged" and fair game.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:13 AM
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I saw that vid, guy just looks like a complete dick now.

It's even more shameful that people are defending him because he's bashing religion. Whatever happened to allowing people to simply believe what they want and let sleeping dogs lie?

Don't get me wrong though, I only say this because it does tarnish the image of what's meant to be a good movement. (That I don't really care about anyway, but you get the idea.)

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Old 04-30-2012, 11:49 AM
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:00 PM
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Good video, I also really like this one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE5M8743a1s

(Hm, vid isn't showing on my comp with the YouTube borders, anyone else seeing it?)

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Old 04-30-2012, 12:10 PM
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I was one of those kids who was told if i don't worship Jesus i will go to Hell. Tormented for eternity. I don't know about you guys, but that traumatized me as a child. Tell a young kid, age 6-8 that he will burn in fire for eternity if he doesn't worship the sky. Let's see what happens.

-Edit- It wasn't my parents who told me this. It was my grandma, teachers, other parents of my friends etc.

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Old 04-30-2012, 12:12 PM
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I have read that and 3 other posts by that guy and I can say he is more biased to his agenda then the pope is to Catholicism.
I was talking about the case and not the author obvious bias
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:17 PM
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I was one of those kids who was told if i don't worship Jesus i will go to Hell. Tormented for eternity. I don't know about you guys, but that traumatized me as a child. Tell a young kid, age 6-8 that he will burn in fire for eternity if he doesn't worship the sky. Let's see what happens.

-Edit- It wasn't my parents who told me this. It was my grandma, teachers, other parents of my friends etc.
In my case it wasn't so much that I was afraid I'd go to hell, but I was afraid relatives/friends dear to me would go to hell(especially my dad), those lovely thoughts tormented me for some years.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:18 PM
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http://bigthink.com/ideas/the-fallout-in-cranston
So basically he's saying that people should never try to challenge the law, regardless of whether or not their personal beliefs differ? What sort of lesson is that to try to teach? The man strikes me as hugely arrogant.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:23 PM
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I was one of those kids who was told if i don't worship Jesus i will go to Hell. Tormented for eternity. I don't know about you guys, but that traumatized me as a child. Tell a young kid, age 6-8 that he will burn in fire for eternity if he doesn't worship the sky. Let's see what happens.

-Edit- It wasn't my parents who told me this. It was my grandma, teachers, other parents of my friends etc.
My grandpa used to always be like that to an extent with always bringing up how I wasn't religious and never went to church after I was no longer forced to. He ended up giving up.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:31 PM
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Blown out of proportion.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:42 PM
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Let me know when a group of Christian kids beats a gay kid to death. Because I'm pretty sure a group of church-going Christians hasn't ever done that.

Savage is the worst sort of self-entitled bully, and is the poster child for exactly what is wrong with the gay rights movement.

But, hey, he's gay, so I guess it's cool for you to justify his hate speech, right? I mean, he's only bashing Christians.

Remember, kids... white people who are straight and Jewish or Christian are "privileged" and fair game.
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Let me know when groups of gay kids are beating Christians to death. Then you can start going on about how tough it is belonging to the privileged class.
You know, I just realized how weird this argument turned out.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:54 PM
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Let me know when a group of Christian kids beats a gay kid to death. Because I'm pretty sure a group of church-going Christians hasn't ever done that.
http://www.thegaymanifesto.com/chris...ans-2000-2009/

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/01/u...in-his-murder/

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7556

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Old 04-30-2012, 05:57 PM
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Most arguments like this turn odd.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:09 PM
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I'm rather skeptical of the validity of most articles published by people, that includes ones that Bolvar brings here as well.

Some things are very laden with propaganda to push for an agenda that isn't completely necessary. You basically kinda proved his other point that this is more against Christianity, rather than against the fact that some people are just fucked up and devoid of all rationality.

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Old 04-30-2012, 06:21 PM
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If Bolvar doesn't believe that Christian Males are the privileged class in America, I dont know what to tell him. You have to provide more than "my book tells me so" when you are trying to push your agenda on others if you're a Muslim or Jewish or anything else.
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