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Old 10-28-2006, 12:48 AM
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Default WoW & how it doesn't affect WC story.

I'm not talking about actual true additions to the story, but rather a raid boss.

For example, guilds have killed Kel'Thuzad however, it is only for the purpose of WoW and loot, but he still is alive in the story.


An actual example of this is Lord Kazzek, he has been farmed forever by guilds, yet returns more powerful in TBC.


So.. need not worry about Illidan Vashj, Kael & Akama being killed off out of the story from random heroes.

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Old 10-28-2006, 02:47 AM
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You're right. Infact we have done nothing at all to the storyline by killing mobs or completing quests in the game. I just feel sad when i realize it.
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Old 10-28-2006, 05:34 AM
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There are still some quests in which you kill a certain wow character for good,for example onxiya,Ragnoras,Balnazzar and the scarlet crusade members.
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:19 AM
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There are still some quests in which you kill a certain wow character for good,for example onxiya,Ragnoras,Balnazzar and the scarlet crusade members.
Those aren't dead either.
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Old 10-28-2006, 07:31 AM
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So.. need not worry about Illidan Vashj, Kael & Akama being killed off out of the story from random heroes.
You should have been here when Kenzuki told us that Xaran Alamas told him that Metzen told him that no Lore Important characters will die in WoW.
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:49 AM
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Kel'thuzad has a reason to come back, though.

Basically: If there isn't a quest to kill someone. They're not dead. =x

So Onyxia, Nef, Rag (?), Baron Rivendare, Balnazzar (who was dead to begin with so it's all good), and VanCleef are all dead.

I just hope they don't actually have US KILL Kael, Vashj, Illidan... that'd be kinda stupid.
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:12 PM
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So Onyxia, Nef, Rag (?), Baron Rivendare, Balnazzar (who was dead to begin with so it's all good), and VanCleef are all dead.

Onyxia, Ragnaros and Kel´thuzad are all alive, as is Nefarion, we also learn that every class leader in the Scarlet Monastery are alive when the Scourge event initiated, as well as Balnazzar, no big guy died, not a single one, read the begining of the Burning Crusade history whre it resumes the current state of Azeroth.
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:26 PM
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Actually he said that no characters important to the plot were going to be perminantly dead. I don't care if Onyxia is dead, she needs to die the way she has been giving Stormwind a bad name. As for Ragnaros, when you "kill" a elemental on Azeroth you only banish him to the Elemental Plane.
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:32 PM
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As for Ragnaros, when you "kill" a elemental on Azeroth you only banish him to the Elemental Plane.
There´s also that but you wouldn´t belive the number of people that think that the Warcraft "god of fire" is dead...
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:34 PM
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There´s also that but you wouldn´t belive the number of people that think that the Warcraft "god of fire" is dead...
They did defeat him on this plane, allow them their respite....for now.
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:08 AM
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Actually he said that no characters important to the plot were going to be perminantly dead. I don't care if Onyxia is dead, she needs to die the way she has been giving Stormwind a bad name. As for Ragnaros, when you "kill" a elemental on Azeroth you only banish him to the Elemental Plane.
I know what you mean, she does need to die. What I want though is that they die properly. She's was screwing with Stormwind, so it is only fitting that a Stormwind expedition sent by Bolvar and led by some named character actually kills her.
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Old 10-29-2006, 09:52 AM
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She's was screwing with Stormwind, so it is only fitting that a Stormwind expedition sent by Bolvar and led by some named character actually kills her.
How about "DutchKillerMan78243" The leet Epix-Glad raid-leader?
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Old 10-29-2006, 10:09 AM
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Nonononono.

His name is Pwnerbull, he's a level 60 Tauren Shaman who can solo Onyxia...

Though I guess DutchKillerMan 78243 could be his Alliance counterpart. *Strokes chin*
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:41 PM
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I know what you mean, she does need to die. What I want though is that they die properly. She's was screwing with Stormwind, so it is only fitting that a Stormwind expedition sent by Bolvar and led by some named character actually kills her.
I think Richard Knaak should write that book, naturally Rhonin and Krasus would be in it, as well as alot of draconic lore. He's got a raging dragon fetish in Warcraft after all.
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Old 10-29-2006, 02:38 PM
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Well, if Knaak wrote it then Rhonin and Krasus would be in it. :b Because they'd have been the ones to kill Mannoroth and Archimonde if Knaak had written WarCraft 3.
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Old 10-29-2006, 03:10 PM
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Well, if Knaak wrote it then Rhonin and Krasus would be in it. :b Because they'd have been the ones to kill Mannoroth and Archimonde if Knaak had written WarCraft 3.
Well don't knock Knaak completely, he did help Metzen create Nozdormu, Ysera and Malygos afterall.
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Old 10-29-2006, 04:12 PM
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Not knocking him. Just saying he does like putting his characters into bigger situtations than they belong really. *Shrug*
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Old 10-29-2006, 04:26 PM
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Not knocking him. Just saying he does like putting his characters into bigger situtations than they belong really. *Shrug*
Than they "belong"? What do you mean, they helped save the Dragon Queen and beat Deathwing!
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Old 10-29-2006, 04:34 PM
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Not knocking him. Just saying he does like putting his characters into bigger situtations than they belong really. *Shrug*
Rhonin was a key character in Day of the Dragon who was led by Krasus, an elder red dragon, in what way don´t they belong in an epic situation? They helped in the defeat of fucking Deathwing.

Krasus also saved the essence of the Sunwell and was choosen by Nozdormu to help save the timeline, the guy is like the medivh of red dragons.
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And they're not deep enough characters for the situations they're put into in my opinion. They absolutely did not belong in the War of the Ancients. :b
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:28 PM
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And they're not deep enough characters for the situations they're put into in my opinion. They absolutely did not belong in the War of the Ancients. :b
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I think there should be books written by a score of writers to flesh out the events of WoW. If a character dies by our hands then it should be written and actual heroes should be crafted for those books. Myself? I'd love to see the War of the Sands as a stand alone or a trilogy (the ugy who did the WotA artwork should be rehired for that).
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And they're not deep enough characters for the situations they're put into in my opinion. They absolutely did not belong in the War of the Ancients. :b
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:00 AM
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Dunno, I thought the WotA thing worked with the characters involved. It allowed the actual legends involved to shine while Krasus, Rhonin and Brox danced around trying not to alter time more than necessary (though as with so many time travel stories, by the end it felt like they just threw their hands up in the air and said "Ah screw it, time'll fix itself once we're done with this mess.") Only thing I missed seeing portrayed was a Mannoroth vs. Cenarius confrontation. That could've been truly epic (especially since it clearly would've been a stalemate, with them both still being alive in WC3 and all), while most of the demigods' battles we ended up seeing were either them completely owning masses of lesser demons or being overwhelmed by sheer numbers or Archimonde himself. In WC3 Mannoroth said he'd relish a chance to fight the demigod again, yet in the novels the Pit Lord spent most of his time pacing around in Azshara's throne room abusing the Highborne and demons there. Mannoroth was supposed to be Archimonde's second-in-command, yet he got to sit around giving orders while the Eredar himself was actually on the front lines getting his hands dirty at times. That kinda disappointed me.
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Old 10-30-2006, 08:59 AM
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Dunno, I thought the WotA thing worked with the characters involved. It allowed the actual legends involved to shine while Krasus, Rhonin and Brox danced around trying not to alter time more than necessary (though as with so many time travel stories, by the end it felt like they just threw their hands up in the air and said "Ah screw it, time'll fix itself once we're done with this mess.") Only thing I missed seeing portrayed was a Mannoroth vs. Cenarius confrontation. That could've been truly epic (especially since it clearly would've been a stalemate, with them both still being alive in WC3 and all), while most of the demigods' battles we ended up seeing were either them completely owning masses of lesser demons or being overwhelmed by sheer numbers or Archimonde himself. In WC3 Mannoroth said he'd relish a chance to fight the demigod again, yet in the novels the Pit Lord spent most of his time pacing around in Azshara's throne room abusing the Highborne and demons there. Mannoroth was supposed to be Archimonde's second-in-command, yet he got to sit around giving orders while the Eredar himself was actually on the front lines getting his hands dirty at times. That kinda disappointed me.
The reason that happened was that Malfurion killed Xavius when he was not supposed to do so. This ment that Mannoroth had to stay behind. Mannoroth was also the one who was supposed to kill Agamaggan.
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