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Old 05-03-2013, 01:06 AM
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:07 AM
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That's terrible. We should spread the word and try to get his rogue Blizzplanent blacklisted!
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:09 AM
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I'm devastated. I really need a /hug
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:10 AM
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My website along with all Facebook/Twitter/YouTube followers have been stolen by one I considered a friend.

I still own the domain name, but he never gave me FTP access to my own website. So I have no backups. Fatal blow.

He created the same domain name adding an "S" at the end. He asked all our social media followers to bookmark the new URL.

It's been an amazing 10 years, fellow scholars. Thank you Scrolls of Lore.
That's horrible.

Would you like action taken by the lore crowd?
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:13 AM
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Dude, what happened? PM me with the details and I'll see if there's anything I can do.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:18 AM
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Do you pay for any of this personally? Is said friend just the webmaster?

Are the social media pages under his name, and if so are they under his name as working for the company?

Do you use a free FTP backup? Do you host your own servers or are they on a hosting site?

If you own website, and this friend was helping out, legal action should be able to be taken.

IT's your site, in your name (I assume, since you mention you still have the domain name), and his popularity and following is coming off of your business.

This should be grounds for legal action, especially since he is claiming to be the same site, only suffering from domain issues.

It should be more than possible to, if nothing else, shut him down. A letter to Youtube with billing for web domain, ditto for twitter and facebook, along with media badges and other information to prove what you are saying is true and that YOU owned the website and he took it should be more than enough to freeze or lock out accounts.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:21 AM
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Unless you're not telling the full story you can take legal action.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:32 AM
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One thing I suggest you do is email your contacts at Blizzard and tell them that any new emails from blizzplanets should be ignored until this whole mishegas is sorted out.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:02 AM
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that's horrible.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:03 AM
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Is the deal in writing?
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:24 AM
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Oooookay... Now it is some big treason, here. I would like to help, but the american law (especially on the Internet) is not really my speciality. However, i could give you a little advice : just in case, look if you can't make play others laws than the american ones : it is sometimes possible, which would allow you to chose the one which offer you the greatest possibility of success.

Anyway, if the deal was made in a written contract, you should win, I think. However, the fact that he didn't abided the original agreement since more than one year and that you didn't react could be used against you, so you must be careful for this mean of defense, because a good lawyer could twist the court in its favor on this basis.

Now, I think that every American Court have a jury, who could be convinced by a great boaster, which would be another reason to seek a court in another country, where the sentence will be returned only by professional judges.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:45 AM
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Honestly, if you have no legal recourse, I think you should just leave that dick with an abandonned husk of a website with no content to draw viewers. Blizzplanet is a familiar name but it never seemed to have a big enough web presence that someone should covet it.

The real value of the website wasn't the domain or the logo (I honestly found both to be rather mediocre), but the written content you obtained through your inside contacts with Blizzard.


Create a new website with a new domain, or establish yourself as a columnist for another prominent website or network. Use this as an opportunity to come up with something you have personal control over, with better a design and a stronger web presence.

You have clout in the community, and the community will support you in this, especially when news spreads about the takeover. Given Blizzard's tacit endorsement of wowpedia in the past, I'd suspect they'll do what they can to support you, too.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:59 AM
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(Goblin Attorney notice: Goblin Attorneys are not a proper substitute for professional attorneys, and their advice is backed with no guarantee or available compensation. You listen to goblin attorneys at your own risk.)

Since all the infrastructure was in his and his friend's name, there's no way you're going to be able to claim ownership of it.

What you might be able to do is get all the content you've provided removed via DMCA. It's kind of a pain in the ass process, though, it'll just be some minor harassment and moderate to high costs for your end. There's no copyright certificate on this content, and most of this content is years old Blizzard news, right? I'm not sure a report from 2010's Blizzcon is worth enough money to fight over.

What you should do is just keep it all internal next time, as there's more stuff the court sees as his than as yours. If you actually created a good amount of the site's content, he'll probably have less going forward anyway. You're sort of lucky in that this is a news site basically.

In the meantime, why is your domain still pointing to his site? You're just helping him readjust everyone to "BlizzPlanets". Get a page up somewhere (Tumblr, perhaps) explaining that you've lost the site that used to be at this domain and point people there. Don't say you got ripped off, just say the site is gone and you have no backup. You also aren't affiliated with any identical looking/sounding sites out there on the internet.

I've actually seen a lot of high quality blog-style web sites run off Tumblr with their own custom domain. If you aren't a designer but just want to focus on creating content it's not a bad way to go. Either way, start a new site, and don't call it BlizzPlanet ("World of Blizzard", perhaps? You can use that one license free if you do :b) but just continue to point your domain to it. He can't accuse you of squatting since the domain predates this stuff.

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Old 05-03-2013, 03:55 AM
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Wow, was about to mention about all the new stuff before seeing this.

Probably going to link this to a couple of guys on twitter if that's okay. Might help get a bit of support if there's enough noise made about it.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:04 AM
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Jesus. You've been a pretty frequent voice in the WoW community for a while now; surely this person can't just usurp everything you've done without consequence.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:09 AM
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Can't you... uhm, "sabotage" him by telling people the truth, on more frequented sites? The amount of people who read SoL is somewhat minuscule.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:11 AM
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Use the power of the social media, tell people what have happened so that none have anything to do with him.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:20 AM
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Just tweeted the official warcraft account, Zarhym, Bashiok, Nethaera and Eldtyara (EU blue, managed to get a few forum favours from her) this thread. Anybody else I should give a heads up to?
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:37 AM
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Can't you... uhm, "sabotage" him by telling people the truth, on more frequented sites? The amount of people who read SoL is somewhat minuscule.
The fastest thing to do, as I've said before, is to point his domain at another page instead of giving the guy more hits and more google traffic. And if the site's FeedBurner based RSS is in a Google account he controls, turn that off, too.

M.D., all an LLC means is that if he gets sued that the people doing the suing can't go after his personal belongings. My friend makes an $2 iPhone app and sells it under an LLC. It means basically he spent $100-$200, probably used LegalZoom.com or something to that effect to do the work for him.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:44 AM
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The fastest thing to do, as I've said before, is to point his domain at another page instead of giving the guy more hits and more google traffic. And if the site's FeedBurner based RSS is in a Google account he controls, turn that off, too.
He can't, if I understood him correctly. He owns the name, but can't change anything.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:47 AM
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No, the LLC has assets (which I guess in this case is the site hosting I guess), but it means that his personal assets (i.e. his car) are not up for grabs since he can not personally be named in a lawsuit for the LLC's actions.

At least, this is what is commonly thought. LLCs are relatively new (only a few decades old) and it's very easy for what everybody thought to be the status quo to be overturned by a court.

And again, I'm an idiot, not a legal scholar. I consulted Small Business For Dummies when finding this out.

Anyhow, you know my (lowly informed) opinion already on what you should do.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:01 AM
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Man, this sucks. I told my followers on Twitter to stop supporting this Blizzplanet until you get it back. I have at least one CM and a few MVPs among the followers, so it should get the message to some people. It's all I could do.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:12 AM
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He can't, if I understood him correctly. He owns the name, but can't change anything.
He owns the dot-com domain name though, which is pointed to the server he has no control over. That's why the guy is trying to get everybody to use the new one. Because M.D. could turn the old address off or point it somewhere else at any time.

The reason I pointed out Tumblr is because they not only let you set up a page for free, they have instructions on how to point your domain name to your page. He just has to go to whatever firm he's registered his domain with and point them to the new servers.

Even if he doesn't want to build his new site on Tumblr, they're fine for putting up a notice that the site is offline for now. Even if he had no interest in running a Blizzard site again, I'd tell him to point the domain at Frank's House Of Chicken And Waffles just to make it that much harder.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:15 AM
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He owns the dot-com domain name though, which is pointed to the server he has no control over. That's why the guy is trying to get everybody to use the new one. Because M.D. could turn the old address off or point it somewhere else at any time.
Ah, I thought you meant he should edit the site itself.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:20 AM
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I could put up a thread in general forums on the eu site, anything specific I should write?
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