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Old 11-08-2009, 08:55 AM
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Crossed Axes (War2) The Warhammer 40,000 Discussion Thread


Since the power of the 40K posts is more important the other less important spam in both the Spam Thread and the IPC Home Thread, I wanna start the Warhammer 40,000 Discussion/Appreciation thread!!!!!!!!!!!

Want to talk about Dawn of War(both games and the xpacks) then this thread is for you! I will also allow discussion about firestorm over Kronus

Want to talk about general 40k fluff? Then this thread is for you!

Want to talk about 40k stuff vs any other setting, then this thread is for you!

You can even talk about your battle reports, campaigns and armies here!

So it's for all 40K topics and whatever. Just like dead raid bosses society and Kerrah's Harry Potter thread.

And now let us begin!

For in the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, There is Only War!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:31 AM
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Woohoo first post in the new thread! Anyweay, erm, yeah, the Imperium rules. And Tau should be exterminated. And, err, well I just can't think of anything else. Other than that Necrons and Old Ones annoy me.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:35 AM
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Anyone read Eldar Prophecy? Good book.

So, what are the chances of Chaos being defeated, and by what means is such possible if it is?
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:45 AM
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As usual my fractured self is split between the savage orkz who have conquered all the ego problems a societhy might have.

They got no personality problems and they fight not because of some evil agenda but because thats what they are they love to fight and they should go on.

However I dont think Orkz can be eliminated at all, their reproductive cycle is pretty much a sign that they wont die in... forever.

Yet my soul harbours hope, that in 40K is nothing but a hollow word but there is one faction that stays true to it.

The Tau, idealistic and selfless believing that if we lowered our weapons and sent our diplomats so much bloodshed could be avoided, I respect strenght above all (which is why I like the orkz so much) but I only respect it because it is with strenght that one can defend noble ideals like these.

Words like rights, freedom, culture, art, love, fellowship... they are hollow and meaningless if one does not have the force of arms to protect those.

Yet I would fight for the tau because their vision is one that shines even in the darkest hour, they advance with clear knowledge that death looms nearer but a thing like selfish fear will not stop the Tau, for one must not be halted by individual doubts when fighting

FOR THE GREATER GOOD! Tau´Va!

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Anyone read Eldar Prophecy? Good book.
I would never read such a heretical book! Plus I've never heard of it.

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So, what are the chances of Chaos being defeated, and by what means is such possible if it is?
If you mean the chances of the Chaos Gods dying, then I don't think it is possible. If you mean their power being crippled\stopped in the material realm, then the Tyranids and Necrons could probably do it (Necrons because they plan on shutting off the warp from the Materium, and Tyranids because they are trying to kill everything that could possibly sustain the Chaos Gods). Chances are terrible though. I doubt the Tyranids can defeat the Orks or the Necrons (or the Imperium, but that is more likely), and the Necrons can't take on the Eldar\Chaos\Imperial forces at the same time (they would be fighting all three if they tried to shut off the warp).

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The Tau, idealistic and selfless believing that if we lowered our weapons and sent our diplomats so much bloodshed could be avoided
Idealistic, maybe. Selfless? Debatable. Anyway, they believe that the galaxy should bow to them and their beliefs. They wish to rule the galaxy because they think they are in the right. Not to mention O'Shovah, who selfishly broke away from the Tau Empire, (which proves the entirely race cannot be flawless). Also, the Xenology book implies that the Tau ethereals were engineered to enslave (through pheremones or some such) the Tau race (which explains why when Farsights ethereals' died he decided to split off). This in turn suggests that they are not selfless as the Ethereals are selfishly enslaving the Tau for their own purposes.

In short, they believe that everyone else should join them or die. That's not particularly idealistic, just blindingly arrogant. They also treat other races as second class citizens, which seems quite selfish to me.
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The Tau might not even have that. Not mention, they are bound by the Caste system, so they don't have a choice in their job, or even you their partners are (I think they try to breed subraces that are best suited for the different Castes, so no inter-Caste relationships (AFAIK)).

P.S. I hate the Tau (except for killing).

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Old 11-08-2009, 11:30 AM
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Whatever, at least they dont worship a corpse
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What is the most recent historical event of import in the Warhammer 40k universe anyway?
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Bah! The Tau thinks they can unify the galaxy under the greater good bah! Like the Eldar and the Imperium before them they will only create their greatest nightmare(Eldar was Slannesh and Imperium was Horus and the traitor Legions) and ultimately will be engulfed in a cataclysm that will benefit chaos and that will slide them down to a slow extinction! In the end there can only be chaos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Tau may not be declining today but what about another millenium after the 41st millenium??
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I do not know anything about this setting, could any of you englighten me?
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Bah! The Tau thinks they can unify the galaxy under the greater good bah! Like the Eldar and the Imperium before them they will only create their greatest nightmare(Eldar was Slannesh and Imperium was Horus and the traitor Legions) and ultimately will be engulfed in a cataclysm that will benefit chaos and that will slide them down to a slow extinction! In the end there can only be chaos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Tau may not be declining today but what about another millenium after the 41st millenium??
The difference is that Tau don't have a warp-signature (btw: they have psyker-grade "tau", funny coincidence, isn't it?^^) which means that they can't create a warp god or a chaos versions of themself^^
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:47 PM
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The Tau are only a young empire. No empire started with a strong link in the warp. It's only the pinnicle of evolution! And then the decline begins!!!

And then we will spill onto them and corrupt those who first connects with the warp and they like all advanced empires will fall!!

Their castes will turn on themselves and engulf Tau empire in a civil war and those who listen to the temptation of chaos will perpetrate it! In the end if the Tau empire pulls itself back together it will be in a state of decline! And in the end those who are not corrupted by the chaos will be destroyed by their own cataclysm!!

All of this has happened before and all of it will happen again!!!

One day after the fall of the Eldar and the Imperium the cycle of death and destruction will befall the Tau!!!\

Chaos will spread!! Every single species that will advance will be consumed by the warp and destroyed by their own excess!!! We will spread until the day the stars have died and the Heat death consumes all!!! Then we will be surpreme!
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Tau blew up a world to make chaos not spread.
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Orks, eh?

Yup. That ork above has a chessboard for his shoulder armor, stole Terminator's hand, uses a guitar gun, and it looks like he has killed xenomorphs.
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Not choppy enuff tho.
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Orc Icon (War3) Not choppy enough eh?

This be choopy enuf for ya brudda? CAN'T STOP DA CHOP!!

Also, I know this is a bit off topic in this thread (seriously some kind of oxymoron-ic way to describe a thread started by the dark Chaos Lords) But this is an article I saw tonight while wandering around. I know I know WoW.com but I really like this column and it was something I really liked about WAR: Online and wish we had something similar in WoW. It would just be nice to have official references that we could easily point to in game, although I guess that would take a bit of the fun out of all this shit we talk about.
http://www.wow.com/2009/11/08/all-th...owl/#continued

In other WAR news we are having a new Games Workshop open near my place and I applied recently. Now that would be a killer job.
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In other WAR news we are having a new Games Workshop open near my place and I applied recently. Now that would be a killer job.
Good luck mate!
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Also, I know this is a bit off topic in this thread (seriously some kind of oxymoron-ic way to describe a thread started by the dark Chaos Lords) But this is an article I saw tonight while wandering around. I know I know WoW.com but I really like this column and it was something I really liked about WAR: Online and wish we had something similar in WoW. It would just be nice to have official references that we could easily point to in game, although I guess that would take a bit of the fun out of all this shit we talk about.
http://www.wow.com/2009/11/08/all-th...owl/#continued
By the time you read some information in WoW's version it would be retconned.

It sounds good...so it prolly won't be created.
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Tau blew up a world to make chaos not spread.
Imperium destroy planets to stop the taint from spreading.
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