She's as irredeemable as Arthas was.

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Why must she be redeemed?

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Sylvanas ? redeemed ?
Don't make me laugh.

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It's a matter of opinion. However, if someone was to post in a thread about Tyrande asking for ways in which she could be more active, and then someone said that she should remain Malfurion's housewife for eternity, I would consider it silly. Suffice it to say that I personally believe that it would be a waste to simply kill her off, considering all of her history and the fact that I believe the story of her fall is rather weak and uncompelling. A redemption story would be a good way to salvage this.

Beat me to it.

Let Sylvanas be the cold-hearted, uncaring, irredeemable banshee she's shaping up to be and lets see how it plays out. It makes for a more interesting story imo.

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No, please, not another redemption story. We've had enough of that for the last decade.

I disagree. I consider the story to be crap.

WoW hasn't even existed for a decade.

Why? You and your buddies have the Forsaken doing the "we are Lordaeron" crap that you were clamoring for.

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"Noble countrymen, evil is upon us. Darkness has befallen our shores. Rise and slay thy enemies… strike, strike so others shall live. The meek shall not fade into the night… live my brethren, live." - King Terenas Menethil II

I was talking about stories in general. Redemption stories are saturated and unoriginal.

Fuck redemption.


True heroes do what they feel they must do regardless of whether or not it makes them irredeemable. Redemption, really, is all about one's personal reputation, is it not? True heroes- those defined by the magnitude of their actions, seek not redemption but vindication.

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Well Metzen said he is a sucker for good redemption stories.

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One of the reasons why Admiral Proudmoore was badass.

I agree that killing her off would be a waste.

I have to disagree about her current story not being interesting but that is my opinion. Personally I don't want her to have a redemption story but I don't want her to die for a while.

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It's why my favorite character is still Maiev Shadowsong. She did what had to be done, because there is only one consequence: success or failure. Anything else is simply superfluous.

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Doing it badly. I'm certain you wouldn't want Varian to reclaim Lordaeron by performing a blood sacrifice of the remaining Gnomeregan exiles.

Everything is. "Killing the fuck out of it" stories are much more so, however, in WoW.

I second this.

Sylvanas is working as intended. Lrn2Lore.

That's an interesting way of spelling "truth". Not the way I would spell it but hey, to each their own.

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I'd still love to see her mortally wound (but not strike the final blow) on Kil'jaeden with the shattered husk of frost mourn.

It'd certainly be more interesting than him sending soldiers into the Lordaeron quagmire and a fresh, interesting twist on the character.

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Bit of a pity that little short of old god corruption (aka contrived bullshit) could set her straight now.

Every positive thing she's ever had going for her is gone. That last sentimental link to her elven roots? Gone. She buttered them up nicely to get more troops, and then threatened to let the homeland she died for be crushed again if her own former second-in-command didn't bow down to her wishes.

Her own race? Tools to be used and discarded as she sees fit, their sole existence simply to keep her meeting the fate she wove for herself with that "free will" she's been hammering on about.

She makes a good villain, and she's one of my favourite characters... but redemption is probably not going to happen here. They're taking quite some long strides to paint her as a monster.

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Then equally long strides back would be intriguing.

Please someone tell me what exactly it is that Sylvanas is doing "out of character" because so far, I'm not seeing it.

And another thing I wanted to get out. Guess what incident doesn't actually matter? If your guess was the assassination of Garithos, then you are correct.

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I wonder what will happen if she was brought back to life by accident. Continue her work with the undead or return to her high elf people.

Have you ever tried taking long strides in leather pants?

Not happenin'.

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But undead can't feel chafing.

The same thing that happens when High Elves are made playable.

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