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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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This five-chapter story will be about the Four Gods, a pet project to me and Timolas. In case you do not know what they are, the Four Gods are a bunch of Azerothian deities whom the humans like to think of as their pagan pantheon but who stretch further back into the mists of time than humankind's existence.
Chapters one to four will be about each of the four gods, showing what they stand for and what kind of people they attract under them. Chapter five will focus on the humans' special relation with these deities and show my personal view of how the Holy Light was introduced to humanity. Anyways: enjoy. Quote:
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Kerrah, I must say you truly depicted the Prophet in a wonderful manner. I love how you set the stage for the Kelani as well.
My only points I'll make are that by switching the Prophet's gender in writing from he to she proved confusing at first glance, even though I know you were trying to point out that the Prophet is not restricted in such a manner. And he could probably have done without shapeshifting as much with the dark trolls. And finally, it was Mueh'zala instead of Muel. Nice work, looking forward to the next one.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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I admit there was a bit too much transformation mess-around, I realised that during my final read-through, but fixing it would have required a lot of work since the pronouns are tied to it so I let it pass.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Dec 2007
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I liked it, especially how you tied it all in to the Warcraft III campaign. Taking a little plot hook and exploring it.
It’ll be good to see the future installments and learn more about the history of the 4 Gods that are at the center of the Great War.
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![]() Arch-Druid Join Date: Jan 2007
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An interesting start, and the use of Aszune is a neat touch. I'd practically forgotten about her, and you have me intrigued about how this will tie into that Warcraft III mission. Your take on the Shadowtooth Tribe is compelling as well, though the dark troll "savageness" one would expect from those who live as animals felt somewhat smoothed over. Then again, this was a pseudo-religious gathering so it makes sense for them to be on their "best behavior." I also liked how you didn't reveal what race the gatherers belonged to until later. Considering some of your other stories, I wasn't certain whether this was a troll or early human/Azotha gathering at first. By and large, the prose was good and quite readable, though errors occasionally crop up ("dearly home" instead of "dear home," "Tallepine" instead of Shadowtooth," etc.). And as Timolas said, the pronouns were a bit distracting at times but otherwise you did a great job conveying the Prophet and his mystical nature. So, all in all, a strong beginning.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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The following four chapters will be all me, so expect a sharp decline in quality. (PS. Thanks for the typo notes.) ---- If anyone can find a Monty Python reference in that chapter, by the way, they get a pat in the back.
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![]() Mountain Giant Join Date: Oct 2005
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Most impressive. You've made progress from when I was last around. I don't mean to imply that your stuff was bad back then- on the contrary, it has always been good. Now, as Rowan said, this is a very strong beginning with well depicted scenes and few spelling/grammar mistakes.
I look forward to more. I apologize for not providing better feedback. I will endeavor to do so in the future. |
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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If I can recommend something to you, Inq, there's Blood and Light, my magnum opus, at the end of that link.
It's 292 pages long in MS Works, so I can understand if you say no, though.
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![]() Mountain Giant Join Date: Oct 2005
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Mission accepted. |
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I'm sorry it took so long to read; but I remembered and got around to it.
I always love what you write, but I admit this is probably my least favourite piece so far. Mostly because it just jumps into a really long history essay, presenting no interest, very little character depth and no plot. I'd just have suggested you present the goal of the Perinany Legion alone as one of the first things, skip Kravekat's perspective, and then list the history once the reader has read enough to care about it. It was an interesting piece as regards background lore, but it wasn't a rollercoaster. It was hinted at that the Perinany fought some gnolls, and then march into town and the story ends.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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Chapter three is on (probably permanent) hiatus because of creative problems, but here's chapter four for you all.
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![]() Ranger Join Date: Sep 2010
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What the... You're still alive?! It's been a while.
Anyway, I wanted to ask how you can call the fight even when Tharn comes out with no superficial wounds. Granted, the bad knee would be just as crippling in a battle. Meh. You built this forum: you can do whatever you want.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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I couldn't make Tharn win by a hair, and I didn't want to, either, but I still didn't want to make him win effortlessly either.
I should probably have had him suffer some injuries, but done is done. Thanks for your feedback. Stay tuned for Chapter Five, which will be abuot Thoradin. With any luck, I'll have it out this decade. ![]()
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![]() Elune Join Date: Dec 2007
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Interesting take on Thoradin’s origins, not what I would have anticipated. Kind of a messianic figure for the Light, I suppose. It took the onus of being conquerors off his tribe, the Arathi, and placed it more on the religion he was spreading (which I assume the Arathi embraced). I would have assumed him to have just been Arathi nobility but this way characterizes a more difficult rise to power.
Though wasn’t the primary motivation of uniting the human tribes to form a united front against the aggressive trolls? It was also cool how you (intentionally or not) characterized the early Holy Light worshippers as a cult the same way the tidbit in Lands of Conflict did.
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As I said on MSN, great dialogue and characterization and I was also impressed at the son turning on the father, which was unexpected and really characterized the Bruxists.
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![]() Eternal Join Date: Aug 2008
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Like I said to you through msn when I read only the frist three paragraphs and when I finished reading it. Fantastic Kerrah your writting has really improved over the time, and despite it seems you haven't written in a long time you still have that magic touch that I love.
I am also glad, atleast I feel this was written with love.
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I'll try to avoid any further allegory regarding this connection, lest the fic become opinionated, crass or inaccurate. I admit I kind of lost my sight of the trolls in coming up with this story. I'm gonna try to explain why they weren't mentioned by the pagans in the fifth chapter without it being too obvious an excuse. We'll see how that turns out. Also, no, I did not know that the RPG materials have ever addressed the origins of the Church of Light. Quote:
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I'm glad that you all liked it. I'll try to take less than half a year for my next update.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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Oh hey, it took three days less than half a year to finish Chapter Five.
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As I said, it was 10x worth the laptop battery to read your updates. I loved Thoradin's characterization, especially him not being the warrior you'd expect, and the epilogue with Tharn fit perfectly into the cosmology of the Four.
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![]() Eternal Join Date: Aug 2008
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There isn't much to say, only that it was worth the wait, and that I loved your charaterizaton of Thoradin.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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Here's some information on the characters which didn't fit in the fic itself. I'm putting it here in case someone wants to reference them in Great War or something.
Ria later converted to Lightism, married Thoradin and became Queen Maria I of Strom. Corinus became the first Bishop of Strom. About a decade after the foundation of the kingdom, he was assassinated by pagan extremists who fled Lordaeron and were never heard of again. During the Troll Wars, Siegfried defended a rebel troll village which was separate from the war from human soldiers. Though he was paroned by Thoradin for the crime, he and his descendants were given the appellation Mogarin, "Troll-friend". This name later morphed into the family name Mograine.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Apr 2006
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The lost chapter, which I will release in two parts.
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