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09-26-2009, 12:26 PM

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http://mos.futurenet.com/video/pcgam...odcastno33.mp3

The podcast gives some information about cataclysm,reveals worgen and goblin starting story,and many more.Listen.

The story of the zone begins in the past, in Gilnaes itself - with you working with and for decendants of the King. The Gilneans' look is distinct from the Stormwind faction: they favor top hat, waistcoat and tails, an almsot Victorian appearance. Rumours of a plague have begun to spread, and you're to prepare the defences. You meet a dissenter Crawley, who's been sent to the castle stockades for causing trouble. Crawley believesthat the Gilnean appetite for isolation is a mistake - that they'd be better joining the Alliance in the fight against the Forsaken.
The Worgen curse, when it does arrive, is devastating, You and Crawley organise a fighting retreat, taking up a last stand in the Gilneas cathedral. As you fight and quest, the city is taken over by feral Worgen. Safe districts turn to fire thanks to Blizzard's phasing tech. As you realise the horrifiing truth - that the Worgen you're fighting are your former friends - you turn into one yourself.
The game cuts to years later. You've been wandering feral in the woods, when you are captured by Crawley. He puts you in the stocks, and feeds you a potion brewed to give you control over the plague. It works. If you enter combat you'll automatically shift. But you can still wander the cities in human form. It's under control.
You set about rebuilding and regrouping. But it's all too late, again Lady Sylvanas, the Forsaken leader, has decided that Gilneas and the surrounding area is to be a Horde port. She sends a vast fleet. By level six you're fending off Forsaken soilders, and preparing a fresh evacuation.
That's when the Cataclysm hits. In one almighty tsunami, the Forsaken fleet is wiped out and the Gilneans are saved. But in an impressive demonstration of Blizzard's phasing tech, half of Gilneas shore is flooded in the process. The Worgen have no choice - they must decamp, and join the Alliance at Stormwind.

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09-26-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandrabel

The night elves are apparently the ones who reach out to the Worgen in their time of need, talked about elsewhere, and they teach the Worgen druidism for whatever reason.

So NE handle druidism to other races like chocolate bars now?

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09-26-2009, 03:09 PM

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Yes, its a pretty safe bet that the Worgen are Druids of the Worg gone wrong or something.

My theory is that they were cursed whilst battling against remnants of the Burning Legion (aka the Lords of the Emerald Flame) still on Azeroth after the War of the Ancients, and twisted into savage, mindless wolf-men. As the curse spread too fast for the Night Elves to contain, they struggled to find a cure (irony being they had recently banished the Highborne, who being mages might have had better insight into the curse). With the curse becoming a full blown epidemic, they saw their only remaining choice to kill all those infected, and thus end the curse. Guilty over the actions they had to take, all existence of the Druids of the Worg, the Worgen and the curse were forgotten, never to be spoken of again.

The Scythe of Elune and Dalaran Portals cut though space and time, and brought forth the worgen, and their curse, from before the culling. The Night Elves coming to the aid of the Gilneans was because of guilt over killing so many cursed innocent elves so many decades ago. With news of the Gilneans finding a cure for the curse, they hope to redeem themselves and also save the time-displaced Night Elf-Worgen, as well as help and guide the Gilneans in their new Worgen forms. Perhaps Elune sending the scythe was to give the Night Elves a chance at redemption, for a dark deed committed so long ago.

And I'd assume because their Worgen form is druidic in nature, they sort of gain basic natural druidic abilities, and then the Night Elves help them from their. That said, considering the first couple of levels are pre-worgen form Gilneans, surely they will be Human Druids for 5-6 levels.

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#13 09-27-2009, 04:24 PM
Mandrabel Chimaera Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 258	I read the Wow.com story on this podcast and...I can't believe you left this out.... SPOILER ALERT Garrosh is confirmed to be the leader of the Horde, pushing all but Orcs and Tauren out of the center city since he says that "only they are strong enough to defend it". So, who wants to guess how Med'an dies to make Thrall the guardian? __________________

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09-27-2009, 04:26 PM

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I don't know. I really don't think Blizz would do this... especially if the Trolls don't have a city anymore. This just strikes me as amazingly fishy... you'd also think that multiple magazines/high profile game websites would be breaking similar news, as well, no?

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09-27-2009, 04:30 PM

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Yes, its weird that Wow.com would do it first, they're usually very late to the party. However, I think pushing the Trolls out could justify adding a Troll capital to counterbalance the Gnomes taking back Gnomer (this assumes that the part about Garrosh is true, which would validate the SA leak). Again, I'm very surprised that the Worgen/Goblin shit was talked about before this.

EDIT: should probably post the link to the article I'm referencing
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09-27-2009, 04:34 PM

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I heard about this pcgamer article and podcast a few days before WoW.com was talking about it... but I'm saying like, generally, when Blizzard does something like this, they either do this for a BUNCH of gaming news outlets (IGN, EGM, etc) or they link this on the front page. This... reeks of unprofessionalism. I don't know how reputable a source PCgamer is, so I'm not going to claim it is FALSE, but my skeptic's instinct is kicking in.

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09-27-2009, 05:18 PM

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I think I'm just going to assume that it's true for the purposes of this discussion, so I can stop having to preface all my sentences with speculative caveats. Anyway, it doesn't say that the other races are being evicted from Orgrimmar completely. It says that all but Orcs and Tauren are being pushed out of the CENTER of the city, which is just as likely to mean that the other Horde races have a "troll ghetto" they have been forced in to.

Perhaps the Trolls will force others to pay a Troll Toll to get in, even!

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09-27-2009, 05:37 PM

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im willing to bet that the normal zone containing the Capital cities are going to have there outposts and towns greatly expanded with fortifications and refugee camp like things.

e.g.
Mulgore will perhaps be more densly populated as tauren tribes pull inland after the Cataclysm and the Alliance Expansion

Durotar has an expanded ogrimmar and Sen'jin will probably grow expontentially into a settlement just short of a City in size because of the 4th? darkspear dispora. although they'll need to keep Vol'jin in grommash hold.
maybe the Troll district of Ogrimmar will take on a new feel mixing old darkspear architecture with Orchish, Elven, undead, Tauren and perhaps even goblin influence.

i have a question though, how could Thrall be so stupid, unless Garrosh is techniaclly only suposed to be regent of Durotar or something while thralls off making sure theres even a world left to conquer, and Garrosh uses durotar's hegemong to bring the other races behind him as the new warcheif.

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09-27-2009, 05:37 PM

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Well I didn't see much point in a new thread ut I just go PC Gamer this week and it has a cataclysm preview in it. It claims to be about Blizzcon and most of it is old info but there was some that I've not heard elsewhere so..forgive me if this is also seriously old and alot of it is quite minor anyway but here goes.

Horde side first:

Kezan - is basically Vice City

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Azshara -
The cliff (yes that one) is gone.
The coastline has been reshaped by the Goblins into a giant Horde symbol to 'cement their allegiance'
The Goblin 'city' has a giant tower in it, on top of which is a massive cannon tracking and firing at distant targets.
A nearby mountain (no idea which) has been turned into Goblin Mount Rushmore.

The big ogre-type guy in the goblin screenshots is described as "a goblins personal banker".

Orgrimmar (big wtf here) -
Garrosh and I quote "Assumes command of the Horde, retrofits Orgrimmar with black steel from Northrend, and kicks out all non-Orc (and the occasional Tauren) from the centre portion of the city."
Reason given - he's kicking out all those races he feels can't defend the city which apparently to him means everyone but Orcs and Taurens, yes even the trolls get the boot. At other parts of the article Garrosh is called Thrall's heir, but I suspect this is just speculation.

Garrosh taking over does not equal becoming Warchief just to clear that up. No mention is made of Thrall not being warchief or of anything else MMOchamp related.

Alliance:

Gnomeregan (sounds like writer speculating) - May be reclaimed for Gnomish kind.

Gilneas - You start out with Crawley as a human. He is a pro-Alliance Gilnean and believes the isolationist policy is a mistake with the threat of the Forsaken (possibly meant the scourge?). The curse arrives, and you and Crawley organise a fighting retreat towards the capital against the worgen. The city burns as you get forced back, eventually you make your final stand together in the Cathedral before turning into a worgen yourself. Cut to several years later and the Blizzcon demo. The flooding is described as a Tsunami that wipes out half of Gilneas forcing them to evacuate to Stormwind.

Other -

Tol Barad is likely to be instanced due to the popularity/server lag/crashes of Wintergrasp.

Quoted from the Cataclysm Rumours Sticky at the top of this very forum! Penda posted this about a week ago.

I hope this means there's gonna be a phased Troll city on the Echo Isles then =/ I don't want to have to go and live with the elves or the zombies!

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09-27-2009, 06:11 PM

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That's where I heard all this stuff before, right. It actually took WoW.com a rather long time to actually get around to posting this shit. I also wonder where PCgamer is getting their info from, especially if this came from BLIZZCON.

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09-27-2009, 06:17 PM

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So, who wants to guess how Med'an dies to make Thrall the guardian?

Fact suggest that Thrall might leave the leadership of the horde to Garrosh to take the command of the Earhten Ring, I think on the cataclsym website he is listed as one of the leader.

If he became the leader of the Earhten ring, then he'll become somhehow a " Chaman Guardian" for the elements, very different from the guardian of tirisfal we know.

It is possible, but with a stretch, that he'll asks jaina for the power of the guardian to fullfill his position as leader of the earthen ring, put the element in their place once again, and give his power back when the task is done, but I'm sceptical. Moreover, Med'an as already the power of the guardian inside him, no need to imbue him with whatever the guardian had to be imbued with. He might very well be the Guardian while Thrall is appointed as a temporary guardian to fixe a temporary problem.

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09-27-2009, 06:25 PM

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The podcast says the interview took place at the Blizz HQ after Blizzcon had ended.

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09-27-2009, 06:27 PM

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Or he could be dead. Which would be much better.

He could be dead yea, but that'll be really an epic fail after so much emphazise around the character, look like he'll be " incomplete" and his story will never be closed...

"He was awesome yes, foretold by the prophecies and such, but on his first mission, he died. Yea it was bullshit, but destiny is always foggy"

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09-27-2009, 06:42 PM

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The podcast says the interview took place at the Blizz HQ after Blizzcon had ended.

Still just seems... fishy to me. Blizzard's been really tight lipped since Blizzcon, so I just... dunno. A lot of this just seems to "weird" for me to take. Perhaps if the magazine had some screenshots, or the info was corroborated by another source, I'd rest easier.

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#2 09-26-2009, 01:17 PM
Mark_Romaneck Arch-Druid Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara Posts: 2,211	Interesting... what does all of this has to do with druids tough? __________________

#5 09-26-2009, 02:29 PM
Revenant Arch-Druid Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,873	Blizzard said "more recent evidence suggests that their true origin might have a connection to the night elves and a secretive druidic order from Kalimdor's distant past." http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/catac...es/worgen.html A wolf form that went wrong and turned into a disease? NEs want to fix it?

#6 09-26-2009, 02:49 PM
Mark_Romaneck Arch-Druid Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara Posts: 2,211	Well the way the race starts make me wonder. They where initially humans who are cut off from the world, so did they gained their druidic knowledge while in feral form? __________________

#8 09-26-2009, 03:20 PM
Phyrez Faerie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 141	Heres some questions that have been bugging me. Your not a worgan until lvl 6 right, so it would go with out saying that the Nelfs haven't shown up and taught you druidism yet. What are your moves in those first 5 lvls? Will you learn your racials only when yo become a worgan at lvl 6? What the hell are you until then? __________________

#9 09-26-2009, 03:34 PM
Wart Faerie Dragon Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 125	I'd think you either get no racials or temporarily get human racials. I'd imagine the fact you have a human druid for 6 levels will just be ignored as a gameplay thing. It's either that make it so the Gilneans were druids to some extent anyway.

#10 09-26-2009, 04:57 PM
Warlock Keeper of Lore Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,766	I didn't hear any of that in the podcast.. what time is it at? All I heard was them talk about how Azshara will look like the Horde symbol now __________________ Last edited by Warlock : 09-26-2009 at 07:37 PM.

#22 09-27-2009, 06:24 PM
Fordragon Eternal Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Furillo, Furillo Province, Grand Duchy of Furillo Posts: 2,895	Or he could be dead. Which would be much better. __________________ "It's just two men sharing the night It might seem wrong but it's just right It's just two men sharing each other Just two men, like loving brothers." -Night Man by Charlie Kelly