Website Update: Draenei on the tBC website.

#1 05-10-2006, 12:25 PM
Cantus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: DC, U.S. Posts: 7,916 BattleTag: Cantus#1700	Website Update: Draenei on the tBC website. Just looking at it now... http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burni...l/draenei.html __________________ Rationalizing the irrational since 2005.

#2 05-10-2006, 12:26 PM
Tysar Sentinel Queen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Emeriss Posts: 849	that was fast of you hmmm.... Naaru, Valen, grand pursuit... no mention of how they joined the alliance though... Something to do with the crash landing? What 'bout Khadgar? Last edited by Tysar : 05-10-2006 at 12:31 PM.

05-10-2006, 12:31 PM

Cantus

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Heh, there's always someone keeping watch on the WoW forums, I simply kept watch for their posts.

As to the text itself...apparently the Holy Light is no longer a faith, it's the worship of the Naaru (a race of energy beings or something like that.) That and the Eredar did not become corrupt until after Sargeras went mad.

Ah the joys of retcons and bs...I've suddenly lost much of my taste for the Draenei.

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#4 05-10-2006, 12:32 PM
Dagren Ranger Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 342	Wow, great. Seems the Light they worship is more like Diablo's than the Human's in Azeroth

#5 05-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Tysar Sentinel Queen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Emeriss Posts: 849	whoa, check out the BE history... 6 chapters.. readin right now Last edited by Tysar : 05-10-2006 at 12:41 PM.

05-10-2006, 12:36 PM

Cantus

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From the tBC FAQ:

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In addition, the Draenei hold no affinity for certain Horde races. They outright hate the Orcs, who nearly drove the Draenei to extinction in Outland. And more recently, the Blood Elves stole technology from the Draenei and also sabotaged their dimensional ship, which crash landed on Azeroth.

Ok, now this is just bordering on ridiculous. Dimensional ships, Blood Elf thieves, are we looking at the foundings of Warcraft 40k or is it just me?

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05-10-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantus

Ok, now this is just bordering on ridiculous. Dimensional ships, Blood Elf thieves, are we looking at the foundings of Warcraft 40k or is it just me?

Yup. Expect the Humans to become Terrans, and the Draenei to become Protoss. Also expect significant retconning.

#8 05-10-2006, 12:46 PM
Dagren Ranger Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 342	SPOILERS From the blood elves history "The wizard Borel (also known as Krasus and the dragon Korialstrasz)"

05-10-2006, 12:50 PM

Kenzuki

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Oh my god....

So we throw out the this part in the lore then right.

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Sargeras and the Betrayal

Over time, demonic entities made their way into the Titans' worlds from the Twisting Nether, and the Pantheon elected its greatest warrior, Sargeras, to act as its first line of defense. A noble giant of molten bronze, Sargeras carried out his duties for countless millennia, seeking out and destroying these demons wherever he could find them. Over the eons, Sargeras encountered two powerful demonic races, both of which were bent on gaining power and dominance over the physical universe.

The eredar, an insidious race of devilish sorcerers, used their warlock magics to invade and enslave a number of worlds. The indigenous races of those worlds were mutated by the eredar's malevolent powers and turned into demons themselves. Though Sargeras' nearly limitless powers were more than enough to defeat the vile eredar, he was greatly troubled by the creatures' corruption and all-consuming evil. Incapable of fathoming such depravity, the great Titan began to slip into a brooding depression. Despite his growing unease, Sargeras rid the universe of the warlocks by trapping them within a corner of the Twisting Nether.

While his confusion and misery deepened, Sargeras was forced to contend with another group intent on disrupting the Titans' order: the Nathrezim. This dark race of vampiric demons (also known as dreadlords) conquered a number of populated worlds by possessing their inhabitants and turning them to the shadow. The nefarious, scheming dreadlords turned whole nations against one another by manipulating them into unthinking hatred and mistrust. Sargeras defeated the Nathrezim easily, but their corruption affected him deeply.

As doubt and despair overwhelmed Sargeras' senses, he lost all faith not only in his mission, but also in the Titans' vision of an ordered universe. Eventually he came to believe that the concept of order itself was folly, and that chaos and depravity were the only absolutes within the dark, lonely universe. His fellow Titans tried to persuade him of his error and calm his raging emotions, but he disregarded their more optimistic beliefs as self-serving delusions. Storming from their ranks forever, Sargeras set out to find his own place in the universe. Although the Pantheon was sorrowful at his departure, the Titans could never have predicted just how far their lost brother would go.

By the time Sargeras' madness had consumed the last vestiges of his valiant spirit, he believed that the Titans themselves were responsible for creation's failure. Deciding, at last, to undo their works throughout the universe, he resolved to form an unstoppable army that would set the physical universe aflame.

Even Sargeras' titanic form became distorted from the corruption that plagued his once-noble heart. His eyes, hair, and beard erupted in fire, and his metallic bronze skin split open to reveal an endless furnace of blistering hate.

In his fury, Sargeras shattered the prisons of the eredar and the Nathrezim and set the loathsome demons free. These cunning creatures bowed before the dark Titan's vast rage and offered to serve him in whatever malicious ways they could. From the ranks of the powerful Eredar, Sargeras picked two champions to command his demonic army of destruction. Kil'jaeden the Deceiver was chosen to seek out the darkest races in the universe and recruit them into Sargeras' ranks. The second champion, Archimonde the Defiler, was chosen to lead Sargeras' vast armies into battle against any who might resist the Titan's will.

Kil'jaeden's first move was to enslave the vampiric dreadlords under his terrible power. The dreadlords served as his personal agents throughout the universe, and they took pleasure in locating primitive races for their master to corrupt and bring into the fold. First amongst the dreadlords was Tichondrius the Darkener. Tichondrius served Kil'jaeden as the perfect soldier and agreed to bring Sargeras' burning will to all the dark corners of the universe.

The mighty Archimonde also empowered agents of his own. Calling upon the malefic pit lords and their barbarous leader, Mannoroth the Destructor, Archimonde hoped to establish a fighting elite that would scour creation of all life.

Once Sargeras saw that his armies were amassed and ready to follow his every command, he launched his raging forces into the vastness of the Great Dark. He referred to his growing army as the Burning Legion. To this date, it is still unclear how many worlds they consumed and burned on their unholy Burning Crusade across the universe.

#10 05-10-2006, 12:53 PM
Tysar Sentinel Queen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Emeriss Posts: 849	I bet Metzen doesn't know about this... The guy who wrote that stuff seems not to realize that it was Eredar who 'corrupted' Sargeras, not the other way around. I wonder what're they gonna put in now...

#11 05-10-2006, 12:53 PM
Warlock Keeper of Lore Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,650 BattleTag: Warlock#1498	Haha yeah. I like this better though. And yeah, don't read the BE history unless you don't care about Ghostlands spoilers. It's horrible with them. __________________

#12 05-10-2006, 12:58 PM
Kenzuki Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Gates of Twilight Posts: 9,950	How did Sargeras become corrupt then?

#13 05-10-2006, 12:59 PM
Tysar Sentinel Queen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Emeriss Posts: 849	hey, remember the first trailer? The guys said we're going to encounter the race of Naaru (I guess it's not Nagru then )...

#14 05-10-2006, 01:08 PM
Dagren Ranger Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 342	Everything about Quel'Thalas in Lands of Conflict is outdated, too. And yeah, I'd like to see how they'll explain Sargeras' corruption...

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05-10-2006, 02:32 PM

Ersinus

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Originally Posted by Kenzuki

How did Sargeras become corrupt then?

mid-titan crisis

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05-10-2006, 02:38 PM

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mid-titan crisis

hehe! good one xD

Well, can you link me to the mind numbing bullcrap about dimensional ships? I mean really, cant they just make it... lore friendly and say portals? SPACESHIPS?

Who else thinks Naaru remind one of Xel'naga

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#17 05-10-2006, 02:45 PM
Syroco Druid of the Claw Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 114	Have you forgotten the Gnomes, Dwarves, and Goblins use ships as well? The Draenei's ship was probably just infused with magics so it could survive a travel from world to world. ehh?

#18 05-10-2006, 02:52 PM
Syroco Druid of the Claw Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 114	Have you forgotten the Gnomes, Dwarves, and Goblins use ships as well? The Draenei's ship was probably just infused with magics so it could survive a travel from world to world. ehh?

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05-10-2006, 02:55 PM

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I laughed at imagining a Protoss Carrier getting zapped by a Blood Elf Warlock, and crashing into Nordrassil, where they climb out.

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Most of the undead in WC look better than Moira.

#20 05-10-2006, 03:03 PM
Ablamar Chimaera Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 295	I think Chris Metzen might have amnesia.

#21 05-10-2006, 03:24 PM
Yuber8900 Site Staff - Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,490	This only further proves my point that they replaced Metzen with a robot!

#22 05-10-2006, 04:21 PM
Ersinus Site Staff - News Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 241	At least a robot would have given us a something more "logical". This is worse, its stupid. __________________

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05-11-2006, 09:12 AM

Kerrah

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Originally Posted by Yuber8900

This only further proves my point that they replaced Metzen with a robot!

Like in the good old GUcomic about the Everquest spokesman?

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#24 05-11-2006, 09:59 AM
Creative Arch-Druid Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In a mailbox near you! Posts: 1,923	Robot: Eredar-Draenei-Alliance-Good-Sargeras-Bad. BlizzDev: AHA! The Robot's wisdom guides us! Fast! Write down the lore for the new race! __________________ CRY MICH EIN RIVER!

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05-11-2006, 10:08 AM

Kerrah

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Originally Posted by Creative

Robot: Eredar-Draenei-Alliance-Good-Sargeras-Bad.
BlizzDev: AHA! The Robot's wisdom guides us! Fast! Write down the lore for the new race!

Robot: Sargeras-uncorrupted-long-questchain-help-kill-arthas.

I hope that never happens.

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