Allow me to quote that

See? He is not forged to, but he does it because he wants to

I think the Scarlet has many leaders, and Dathrohan is one of them.

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CRY MICH EIN RIVER!

No, he means hes gonna do it for pleasure, but he does actually have to kill Taelan, wether he'd enjoy it or not.
Imagine a factory worker ordering his boss around. That doesnt happen, and Balnazzar wouldnt be that to order a superior around. He doesnt have any, hes a manipulative Dreadlord that got to the top of the Crusade, and corrupted it.

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You didn't prove me wrong, I was going by official Blizzard informatino which was right. All you did was prove the timeline has shifted since the time of LoC and the leadership of the Crusade has changed slightly. N00b.

Well, at least now i know i´m sure that they were indeed in the influence of Balnazar.

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Warlock, Lord of Scrolls of Lore: Shut up, Timolas

LOOOOORE FIIIIGHT. >_>

Well then, let me get started. You dont impress me, and I dont think you impress a lot of other people here either. Beowulf spoke his mind, and he's pretty right. You screech about Arthas constantly like an old hag, and rely on statistics in little battle manuals or whatever. You call yourself a 'Loremaster', but yeah, I just pointed out Dathrohan is the leader of the Crusade Which it turns out, he is.
I never said Isillien and Abbendis don't control the East and Western Crusades, which they do, but if there wasn't a prominent figure inbetween it could almost be two different factions; since there wouldnt be a head.

Now, before you crawl around like a stubborn, vain little doop calling people Noobs, Mr. Noobslayer, go and realise that you're not an all powerful being like your dear Arthas. If you are SO addicted that you make it your life's goal to become the all mighty lore being, then.... get a life. I love Warcraft; we all do. But honestly, take a break. Because I wrote something contradicting an earlier statement, you have to get all personal. Take off your glasses and go for a walk in the fresh air.

Okay, I'm done. Gtg now, meeting my FRIENDS.

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Burn the heretic!

...Just kidding. I have friends aswell, belive it or not @.@

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CRY MICH EIN RIVER!

Wow, for someone who´s calling other people nerds, he´s taking this story alittle bit too serious.

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Warlock, Lord of Scrolls of Lore: Shut up, Timolas

I seriously don't care what you think about me mate. I think people dislike me because half the time I'm right and they don't like to be corrected.

Well - If it sounded like I was accusing all of you of being nerds that wasn't what I meant. I was basically just trying to make a point; that I was being called a noob over something I was right about.

Anyway, I can't accuse anyone of being friendless here, I don't know any of you irl. :> I didnt mean to either.

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We have a hunter in our guild by the name of Areborne. While we were in Ahn'Qiraj (20 man), we suddenly found out that this level 60 hunter did not have Viper Sting. His reason being "I didn't think I'de need it." He trained all the other skills, including Giantstalking, but not Viper Sting. By then we were all like "U Fuking N00b!".

So no, you are not a noob. But don't ever be a Areborne.

in test realm Hound Master Loksley's bro is at LHC and u can get Scarlet Coins for doin quests and stuff for the t3 hunter set i think

Mograine's dad, Loksey's bro. Wow, total family reunion here

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Whitemane's ex boyfriend wants revenge on Mograine for stealing his ex!

He will give quests in LHC

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CRY MICH EIN RIVER!

So does this mean Balnazzar is listed as officialy dead as of 1.11?

Well, when we are still talking about Naxxramas...
I love that Blizzard added some new skins! For example, Heigan the Unclean has model that is impossible to mimic! I love it <3

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CRY MICH EIN RIVER!

It probably has more to do with the way you correct them. Generally, if you tell someone that they're a 'n00b' and that you're better than them, they tend to dislike you a bit.
Just a thought.

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Scarlet Commander Marjhan: Your message did reach us, Commander, but by no means is our involvement here sanctioned by the Grand Crusader.
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: Your leader takes residence at the doorstep to Naxxramas. Do you think he does not feel the pressure?
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer lowers the sound of his voice to a whisper.
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: Even demons are capable of fear... Scourge activity in the Plaguelands has increased ten-fold. We are receiving reports of Scourge attacks from as far away as Kalimdor! Now how do you suppose this has happened? How have the wretched undead done that which was previously thought impossibe? Is nowhere safe?
Scarlet Commander Marjhan: The heathens will be forced to react. Orcs, bull-men...
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: Tauren.
Scarlet Commander Marjhan: Whatever. The revolting, unkempt Horde filth...
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: You lack tact, Commander. This is not surprising. However, you are right in that the Horde will be forced to act. But not just the Horde. They already come - heroes from across the world.
Scarlet Commander Marjhan: Too little, too late. The dam has broken. We are a bump in the road at best.
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: So why are you here? What are we to do if there is no hope?
Scarlet Commander Marjhan: There is always... Ashbringer.
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: So is this what you have come for? To try and claim that which is the reason for the Dawn's existence and the Crusade's downfall? You open old wounds with your words, Commander!
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: The Ashbringer is dead and there will never be another like him. The lesser Mograine is a far cry from the man his father was. You know this, Commander! It was, after all, your own leadership that was responsible for the death of the Scarlet Highlord Mograine.
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: It was your leadership that manipulated a grieving child to try and recover the sword. A child that has grown into a man with nothing but vengeance and hatred in his heart! And for what? You are no closer to the sword now than you were five years ago.
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: Yet you think that recovering Ashbringer will somehow turn the tide of battle? Let me let you in on a little secret, Commander: The power of the Ashbringer came from the man who would wield it... I was there, Commander. I watched him burn legions of undead in righteous fire before he would even unsheathe the blade. Alas, your grasp on history is ... lacking.
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer: Now be silent and note where you are, lest I inform Lord Fordring and his knights that you are no longer here on amicable terms. I am certain he would take great pleasure in seeing to your 'atonement.'

Here's the full Ashbringer text, notice the bolded parts

Wait a min, a scarlet boss and an argent dawn boss talking with eachother? I thought those guys hate eachother.

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Co-creator of UFS, a joint urban fantasy setting.

The Argent Dawn and Scarlet Crusade used to be one remember. It's no surprise that their members would know each other.

So, one would think that "Dathrohan" is alive.

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Warlock, Lord of Scrolls of Lore: Shut up, Timolas

Does that mean that the higher ups in the Scarlet Crusade KNOW that Balnazzar is in their ranks?! Cause I remember doing a quest for Strath and after killing Bal you get his head and you bring it back to the Forsaken leader at Lights Hope Chapel. So I understand the Dawn knowing of Bal being in the Crusade but does that mean, after that conversation from above, that the Crusade knows of Bal?

Hmmm, maybe. But they maybe think that the end justify the means?

Isnt full strength Balnazzar stronger than Kel'Thuzad?

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CRY MICH EIN RIVER!

Not anymore at least.

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Well....he's kinda dead now. That just might stop him from getting anywhere near that powerful. :p

Anyways, Scarlet Crusade are crazy, man. I don't try to rationalize it...

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"In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits Dreaming"

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