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Cantus 05-29-2009 11:57 AM

The Warcraft Timeline
 
We keep seeing the WC timeline fluctuate with additions to the story, most recently with the Ashbringer finale and the Rise of Arthas. As of right now, it seems prudent to discuss and formulate how the timeline has probably developed into, if so that we can know what we're talking about in later threads. Once everyone's got a decent consensus I'll edit this first post with the proper dates.

Rise of the Horde Timeline by Vineyard
http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/...ead.php?t=4705

Dark Avenger 05-29-2009 12:06 PM

I feel like my mind gets fucked over whenever I try to assemble a cohesive Warcraft timeline.

Rashid 05-29-2009 12:17 PM

I think the general timeline of each war: WoTA, WotH, Troll Wars, WC1, 2, and 3 is mostly consistent. It might help to point out first which dates/events are in question before we can come to a consensus on them :P

Vineyard 05-29-2009 12:20 PM

I think it would make it a little bit easier if we look at the timeline step by step and look at events and dates presented in the last books, comics and Game Texts)

The Most Important are now:

- The Rise of the Horde and Pre-1st War Azeroth
- The First War
- The Second War - Beyond the Dark Portal
- The Interwar Years
- The Third War
- Before World of Warcraft
- World of Warcraft
- The Burning Crusade
- Wrath of the Lich King

Lon-ami 05-29-2009 01:02 PM

First of all:

Let's try to create order; just because introducing dates or amounts of time will kill us all.

I would take each single game, and then add the other sources' events trying not to retcon anything.

For some things, like the Eredar retcon, I'd include the 2 versions, and let the reader decide whether one of them isn't real or both could be canon.

Yuber8900 05-29-2009 01:11 PM

War1 was made and things were good.
War2 was made and things were still good.
War2ex was made and things kept steady.
War3 was made and things got a little messy.
War3ex was made and the mess grew larger.
WoW was made and things went to hell.
WoWex1 was made and things wish they were bad enough to be in hell.
WoWex2 was made and the world died.

Kerrah 05-29-2009 01:23 PM

Azeroth's timeline (no Legion/Titan/Draenei/Orc stuff included):

-Titans arrive to Azeroth and order it.
-The Old Gods arrive/appear, corrupting stuff.
-Titans come back and lock the Old Gods away.
-Night Elves appear and build an empire.
-WotA.
-The Highborn get exiled and the druids go to sleep.
-Quel'Thalas is founded.
-Strom is founded, the Troll Wars.
-The other human nations and Ironforge are founded.
-The Council of Tirisfal is founded.
-The Great War of Lordaeron.
-The War of the Three Hammers.
-WC1/The Last Guardian.
-WC2/Tides of Darkness.
-WC2x/Beyond the Dark Portal.
-Day of the Dragon.
-Lord of the Clans.
-WC3. The Arthas book (which continues on from here).
-WC3x.
-Circle of Hatred (or whatever that crap was called).
-WoW begins.
-And so forth.


edit: Cantus has to compile a conclusive one from the partial versions posted by people and edit it into the opening post. It's his duty.

Lon-ami 05-29-2009 01:24 PM

Yuber enlightened me.

There's a real consistent Warcraft timeline. The timeline of it's own destruction, a list of the events from outside Azeroth affecting Azeroth itself.

You know, like games or certain books. And we could make a parallel line with the effects it had over the community, like the Appendix wars and the Dawn of the Leprechaun, as well as invasions of bots and farmers.

I'd pay for a tale telling the nuke of TBC at E3, also known as the Draenerdar incident and the fall of the draenei.

Ashenmoon 05-29-2009 01:45 PM

I can just picture the movie - a drama-thriller, 24-style with a little clock ticking, depicting the events when the world found out about the draenei retcon. Or maybe Vantage Point-style - see the events from a coupl'a different perspectives, to squeeze all the angst, frustration and nerdrage possible out of the story.

Roderich 05-29-2009 01:47 PM

What was the "Great War of Lordaeron"? War beetween the Human Nations?

Kerrah 05-29-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roderich (Post 122305)
What was the "Great War of Lordaeron"? War beetween the Human Nations?

Yes.

http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/...ead.php?t=4549

Lon-ami 05-29-2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashenmoon (Post 122303)
I can just picture the movie - a drama-thriller, 24-style with a little clock ticking, depicting the events when the world found out about the draenei retcon. Or maybe Vantage Point-style - see the events from a coupl'a different perspectives, to squeeze all the angst, frustration and nerdrage possible out of the story.

All hail the new director!! :P

Rashid 05-29-2009 02:17 PM

Additions to Kerrah's timeline in blue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerrah (Post 122300)
-Titans arrive to Azeroth and order it.
-The Old Gods arrive/appear, corrupting stuff.
-Titans come back and lock the Old Gods away.
-Gurubashi/Amani vs Azj'Aqir
-Kaldorei appear and build an empire.
-WotA.
-The Highborn get exiled and the druids go to sleep.
-Quel'Thalas is founded.
-Strom is founded, the Troll Wars.
-The other human nations and Ironforge are founded.
-The Council of Tirisfal is founded.
-War of the Shifting Sands
-The Great War of Lordaeron.
-The War of the Three Hammers.
-WC1/The Last Guardian/Rise of the Horde.
-WC2/Tides of Darkness.
-WC2x/Beyond the Dark Portal.
-Day of the Dragon.
-Lord of the Clans.
-Of Blood and Honor
-WC3. The Arthas book (which continues on from here).
-WC3x.
-Sunwell Trilogy
-Circle of Hatred (or whatever that crap was called).
-WoW begins.
-And so forth.


Kerrah 05-29-2009 02:21 PM

Wasn't War of the Shifting Sands after WotA?

Rashid 05-29-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerrah (Post 122313)
Wasn't War of the Shifting Sands after WotA?

Yes, I mistakenly placed it before. Edited now... Good catch.

Kerrah 05-29-2009 02:31 PM

I think the Night Elves appeared after the Aquir war, too.

Roderich 05-29-2009 02:38 PM

All the Vrykul thing (Anguish of Nifflevar and so...) were 15 000 years before the Opening of the Dark Portal, right? Same time the Azj'Aqir vrs Troll Wars.

Rashid 05-29-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerrah (Post 122320)
I think the Night Elves appeared after the Aquir war, too.

That war is generally considered to be -16000 BDP, so my timeline assumes Night Elves existed 6000 years prior to WoTA, but that may or may not be correct.

I think at the time of WoTA, the Night Elves were the strongest civilization in Kalimdor, so their construction of an empure might coincide somewhat with the Aqir war. Will look into this further.

edit: World of Warcraft RPG has the well of eternity empowering the Kaldorei at -14000, so for all intents and purposes, the rise of the night elves was after the Aqir war. Fixed :D

Wulfang 05-29-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerrah (Post 122320)
I think the Night Elves appeared after the Aquir war, too.

Indeed. And the War of the Shifting Sands was a thousand years ago, so it was after the Troll Wars.

Kerrah 05-29-2009 02:45 PM

Yes, now I remember. In the document which first told us of the Aquir war, it was stated that the Troll nations were weakened enough by that war to allow the Kaldorei Empire to be born.

Roderich 05-29-2009 02:47 PM

Stormwind was founded 1000 years ago (comic).

Rashid 05-29-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wulfang (Post 122323)
Indeed. And the War of the Shifting Sands was a thousand years ago, so it was after the Troll Wars.

I checked and you are right. Don't know if it was before the Lordaeron war, but it was after the founding of the seven kingdoms.

Atomic_Piggy 05-30-2009 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerrah (Post 122300)
Azeroth's timeline (no Legion/Titan/Draenei/Orc stuff included):

-Titans arrive to Azeroth and order it.
-The Old Gods arrive/appear, corrupting stuff.
-Titans come back and lock the Old Gods away.
-Night Elves appear and build an empire.
-WotA.
-The Highborn get exiled and the druids go to sleep.
-Quel'Thalas is founded.
-Strom is founded, the Troll Wars.
-The other human nations and Ironforge are founded.
-The Council of Tirisfal is founded.
-The Great War of Lordaeron.
-The War of the Three Hammers.
-WC1/The Last Guardian.
-WC2/Tides of Darkness.
-WC2x/Beyond the Dark Portal.
-Day of the Dragon.
-Lord of the Clans.
-WC3. The Arthas book (which continues on from here).
-WC3x.
-Circle of Hatred (or whatever that crap was called).
-WoW begins.
-And so forth.

Where does Hakkar and co. come into this? I'd imagine it would be not long after the Sundering, possibly around the time of the troll wars?

Kerrah 05-30-2009 02:52 AM

I'm fairly sure it was before the Highborne were exiled. That would lead us to a line like this:
-Titans arrive to Azeroth and order it.
-The Old Gods arrive/appear, corrupting stuff.
-Titans come back and lock the Old Gods away.
-Gurubashi/Amani vs Azj'Aqir
-Kaldorei appear and build an empire.
-WotA.
-Gurubashi try Hakkar but give him up.
-The Highborn get exiled and the druids go to sleep.
-Quel'Thalas is founded.
-Strom is founded, the Troll Wars.
-The other human nations and Ironforge are founded.
-The Council of Tirisfal is founded.
-War of the Shifting Sands
-The Great War of Lordaeron.
-The War of the Three Hammers.
-WC1/The Last Guardian/Rise of the Horde.
-WC2/Tides of Darkness.
-WC2x/Beyond the Dark Portal.
-Day of the Dragon.
-Lord of the Clans.
-Of Blood and Honor
-WC3. The Arthas book (which continues on from here).
-WC3x.
-Sunwell Trilogy
-Circle of Hatred (or whatever that crap was called).
-WoW begins.
-And so forth.
Might be I'm wrong, of course.

Dark Avenger 05-30-2009 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerrah (Post 122380)
I'm fairly sure it was before the Highborne were exiled. That would lead us to a line like this:
-Titans arrive to Azeroth and order it.
-The Old Gods arrive/appear, corrupting stuff.
-Titans come back and lock the Old Gods away.
-Gurubashi/Amani vs Azj'Aqir
-Kaldorei appear and build an empire.
-WotA.
-Gurubashi try Hakkar but give him up.
-The Highborn get exiled and the druids go to sleep.
-Quel'Thalas is founded.
-Strom is founded, the Troll Wars.
-The other human nations and Ironforge are founded.
-The Council of Tirisfal is founded.
-War of the Shifting Sands
-The Great War of Lordaeron.
-The War of the Three Hammers.
-WC1/The Last Guardian/Rise of the Horde.
-WC2/Tides of Darkness.
-WC2x/Beyond the Dark Portal.
-Day of the Dragon.
-Lord of the Clans.
-Of Blood and Honor
-WC3. The Arthas book (which continues on from here).
-WC3x.
-Sunwell Trilogy
-Circle of Hatred (or whatever that crap was called).
-WoW begins.
-And so forth.
Might be I'm wrong, of course.

Now where on earth does the whole Rise of the Horde/Sargeras/Eredar retcon come into this?


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