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Old 03-31-2018, 01:39 PM
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It's not even that the Forsaken lack comeuppance for their behavior.

It's that their behavior has consistently failed to evoke a realistic response from their enemies or their allies. And that their activities fail to sync remotely with those of the Horde player, even if the player happens to be Forsaken as well. It creates the sense that the Horde would have welcomed Arthas with the Scourge and even Gul'dan with the Shadow Council into their ranks and let them both keep doing what they do as long as they claimed to be doing it "for the Horde."

It's just never really made sense for the player to help with the stuff they do in places like Silverpine and Hillsbrad, then suddenly transform into a noble and upright champion of Azeroth who's staunchly against such things on principle as soon as he/she sets foot outside of Forsaken territory, then reset back to gladly committing Scourge-tier atrocities whenever the occasional decaying psychopath from the Undercity shows up as a questgiver.

Some (definitely not all, but some) Horde players frantically defend them out of a sense that as a player of an undead character they are the Forsaken themselves, but frankly none of the Horde player characters are really them, undead included. Unless you PvP and do nothing else, the undead player's actions in-game just don't sync with the sentiments or behavior of their own race. Based on 99% of the Forsaken NPCs' interactions via quests and storylines, while the undead player is a hero of the Horde protecting its civilians and saving the day, the Forsaken as a race are largely complete monsters who'd just let such people die because they don't really give a shit about doing the right thing.

And the response from the rest of the Horde is to just blankly ignore it because the game mechanics prevent them from treating the Forsaken like they (and the Alliance) treat every other group in the game that behaves the way they do. Which will be worsened if post-BfA we see the Forsaken continuing that behavior in some plague-blighted stretch of Kalimdor and the rest of the Horde just shrugs and continues to ignore it. Because despite having what should be moderating presences like the Darkspears, tauren (plus Highmountain tauren now), blood elves (plus Nightborne now), druids and shamans (not counting Zandalari here because frankly even without Zul they're still a bunch of blood-sacrificing cannibals), the precedent has continued that said agencies don't actually do anything to temper the more damaging influences within the Horde, and they only really take action when things get completely out of control and nothing short of a civil war will ameliorate the problem.
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