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Old 06-08-2018, 11:31 AM
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Which seems to rather suggest that when separated into clans each clan is willing to entertain peace with the one non-hostile race in the face of everything else that threatens them.
From what we know, the Orcs hadn't done anything like that since the Iron Horde, which had mostly collapsed and only the three clans that made up the Mag'har had joined the Horde. The Draenei, however, had the numbers and the resources to start a war at the prodding of their "masters". The Orcs have rarely started wars simply of their own volition. First, they started on the Draenei due to lies and manipulation from the Legion, not murderlust. Same with the Humans. The only times the Orcs did go out on a conquest spree of their own volition, it was when Garrosh led the Horde and manipulated the Orcs from past Draenor into the Iron Horde (and even the latter example was just continuing the war the Legion had already started with Garrosh simply omitting the truth from the other Orcs), and even with that many Orcs hated him and didn't agree with his racist warmongering.

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But as soon as you unify the clans to the point that they can overcome those enemies, what was previously defensive aggression and survival instinct quickly translates into a lust for conquest. One of the enduring themes of the orcs on Draenor (both Draenors) has been that while they're ordinarily strong enough to survive, if united they become strong enough to conquer the world. And not surprisingly, when the clans are united that seems to become exactly what they want to do.
The problem, however, is that the Orcs, and Orc fans, are being mistreated by this portrayal. I don't get why the story seems to be going backwards to Warcraft II, when the writers should have stuck with the peaceful and honorable Orcs of Warcraft III, which were an interesting aversion of the "evil Orcs" trope. Saurfang (and classic Thrall) personifies this portrayal.
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