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Old 07-20-2016, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Taintedmage View Post
Query, were the Crusades a defensive war?
We know from the speech at the Council of Clermont that Urban the II used the justification of the Seljuk Turks and the Arabs but I've heard of other reasons.
Muhammad and his Caliphate invade, various Caliphs invade, Seljuks invade. There is still a sizable Christian population in the Middle East and Egypt. Anatolia is still Christian.

One argument is that this is the first wave or another wave of European colonization. If that were the case then what were the Crusaders colonizing or taking? It surely was not native Islamic lands, that was not the case yet. North Africa was not even fully Islamic yet (it still has a small Christian minority).
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