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Old 06-16-2015, 06:40 AM
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The problem with the Daario = Euron Theory is that Grrm isn't that great a writer. We're talking about a guy who employs two people just to remind him which characters he's killed off last book because he can't remember anymore. He's an enjoyable person to listen to but his storytelling is... well..
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They can always do a spin off featuring Robert's rebellion. We can then see Stannis the Maddis making life hard for the defenders of Storm's End.
">Your grace, even the cats are gone, we can't even find any rats."
>Stannis scoffs, looking over Storm' End.
>"The children are too weak, they cannot man the garrison, they are but pointless mouths to feed..."
>"Y- your grace?"
>"Husband, please, I am sure we can wait..."
>"Silence, woman. You need your strength for when I put a boy in you."
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>"Have them butchered for meat."
>The camera moves across Storm's End, we hear the sound of a butcher's cleaver as it cuts to the Tyrell camp, a young, ugl- err, plain looking girl is stood beside her father.
>"I hope this siege ends quickly father, I can only feel sadness for the men forced to starve because of their stubborn Lord."

This will literally be Stannis' only scene in HBO's Game of Thrones: Rebellion written and directed by David Benniof and D.B. Weiss.
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Old 06-16-2015, 07:32 AM
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And Tyrion was born 273 AC
About nine months after Joanna visits the capital in 272AC.
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:35 PM
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It's kinda hilariously ironic how the show seems to have solved the Meereeneese Knot by simply speeding up Tyrion's arrival in Meereen.

See George? Turns out there was no need to introduce a new PoV after all IF YOU'D HAD JUST GOTTEN TO THE FUCKING POINT WITH TYRION!!!
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Old 06-16-2015, 02:56 PM
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I'm becoming more convinced that Tyrion's father was the Mad King.
No. No. No.

Stop right there, criminal scum.

This is just the worst possible theory ever.

It annihilates Tyrion's whole character as a tragic schemer. SUDDENLY, it makes total sense his father hated him - he wasn't his father! And now there's no crime of patricide upon Tyri - that asshole of a Lannister wasn't his father! Heck, it's so much better to be a dwarf of a Targaryen, than a scheming little Lannister lord, eh? Everything you ever wanted, St. Tyrion?

It's just the worst.

And, heeeey. If Aegon is really a Blackfyre (of which there is no actual proof yet), then what stops him from being a Dragon Head more than the hypothetical Targ Bastard Tyrion? TargBlood+FreeCities blood vs TargBlood vs LanBlood, and you think the latter is more important?
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Old 06-16-2015, 02:58 PM
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It's kinda hilariously ironic how the show seems to have solved the Meereeneese Knot by simply speeding up Tyrion's arrival in Meereen.

See George? Turns out there was no need to introduce a new PoV after all IF YOU'D HAD JUST GOTTEN TO THE FUCKING POINT WITH TYRION!!!
What the hell! The Meereeneese knot is solved by simply not having any of the attackers involved. No Volantis, no Quarth, practically no Yunkai. D&D just took out pretty much the entire Meereen arc, they did not solve it.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:15 PM
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Appreciating the Stannis/Davos avatars, guise.

Team Stannis till the end.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:22 PM
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Appreciating the Stannis/Davos avatars, guise.

Team Stannis till the end.
The Iron Throne was his, by right.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:23 PM
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The Iron Throne was his, by right.
Who is Stannis' rightful show heir now? All hail King Gendry Baratheon?
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:24 PM
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Edric Storm.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:25 PM
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Who is Stannis' rightful show heir now? All hail King Gendry Baratheon?
Would actually be cool. Here's hoping. If Stannis dies in the books (which he probably will soon in TWOW unfortunately) then Edric Storm is well placed to be legitimized by, say, Aegon or Daenerys.

In the show, Gendry, yeah. Hard to imagine it happening, though.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:25 PM
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Who is Stannis' rightful show heir now? All hail King Gendry Baratheon?
You said we should ignore the show!
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:25 PM
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Edric Storm.
Well yeah, in the books it would be Stannis>Shireen>Edric.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:26 PM
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Let's not forget Queen Mya Stone.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:28 PM
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Let's not forget Queen Mya Stone.
Yes but Mya wasn't reckonized as much by Robert.


And do the Baratheon have cousins? Like, the Lannister family is really vast. Is it the same for Baratheon?
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:29 PM
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Yes but Mya wasn't reckonized as much by Robert.


And do the Baratheon have cousins? Like, the Lannister family is really vast. Is it the same for Baratheon?
You'd think so, logically. But, I don't believe that's the case. World of Ice and Fire would have said so.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:29 PM
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Would actually be cool. Here's hoping. If Stannis dies in the books (which he probably will soon in TWOW unfortunately) then Edric Storm is well placed to be legitimized by, say, Aegon or Daenerys.

In the show, Gendry, yeah. Hard to imagine it happening, though.
Wouldn't legitimizing a Baratheon bastard be kinda dangerous for their rule?
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:32 PM
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Then, Stannis' closest cousin would be... Aegon.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:33 PM
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Wouldn't legitimizing a Baratheon bastard be kinda dangerous for their rule?
Well it would be a distant, weak competing claim to the Iron Throne, but if Edric Storm were raised by Danny or Aegon, he'd play the part of Orys Baratheon to Aegon the Conqueror.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:40 PM
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Well it would be a distant, weak competing claim to the Iron Throne, but if Edric Storm were raised by Danny or Aegon, he'd play the part of Orys Baratheon to Aegon the Conqueror.
Yeah, but Daenerys or Aegon might think that the Baratheons might again rebel against them, which is why I doubt that they would legitimize them.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:42 PM
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Yeah, but Daenerys or Aegon might think that the Baratheons might again rebel against them, which is why I doubt that they would legitimize them.
Why would Edric Storm be any more predisposed to rebel than anyone else? I don't think that just because he is a Baratheon that he would be much more likely to. Baratheon is a house, but each of its members will always have unique personalities. Renly, Robert, Stannis, Edric Storm. What do they have in common beyond a name?
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:44 PM
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Why would Edric Storm be any more predisposed to rebel than anyone else? I don't think that just because he is a Baratheon that he would be much more likely to. Baratheon is a house, but each of its members will always have unique personalities. Renly, Robert, Stannis, Edric Storm. What do they have in common beyond a name?
I'm not saying that either Edric or Gendry would rebel. It's just that Daenerys or Aegon could think that they might rebel to get the Baratheons back on the throne.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:48 PM
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I'm not saying that either Edric or Gendry would rebel. It's just that Daenerys or Aegon could think that they might rebel to get the Baratheons back on the throne.
It's quite possible yeah.

Regardless I don't actually imagine Edric returning to the story unfortunately; there's just too much going on already.
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Old 06-16-2015, 05:39 PM
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I'm guessing that in the books Gendry might end up as the Baratheon "heir" so to speak. As for the question of who is going to legitimize him, I was thinking it could be Aegon? Gendry is supposedly the spitting image of the Baratheons (Robert/Renly at least), so having Aegon make him lord of the Stormlands could be a good way to win the favor of the Stormland lords.

And If I remember correct Varys was the one who arranged for Gendry to go along with the Night's Watch, might be he did it to keep him alive in case he had to produce a "true Baratheon" later.
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Old 06-16-2015, 07:24 PM
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Yes but Mya wasn't reckonized as much by Robert.


And do the Baratheon have cousins? Like, the Lannister family is really vast. Is it the same for Baratheon?
The only houses with surviving branches seem to be the Martell's, Tyrell's, and Lannisters.
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Old 06-16-2015, 07:47 PM
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The only houses with surviving branches seem to be the Martell's, Tyrell's, and Lannisters.
The Arryns supposedly have one as well but said branch was disregarded because they married into merchant commoners.
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