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Old 06-20-2015, 05:43 AM
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Honestly if it's just 7 seasons, looking at the pacing thusfar, I don't know how they're going to round off the story in time, given that 6 will still introduce more characters and have more build-up.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:59 AM
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I'd rather have them explain why Lord Varys's balls were of magical properties in the first place.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:06 AM
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I'd rather have them explain why Lord Varys's balls were of magical properties in the first place.
My money is on "he's a Targaryan". Kingsblood has power in this setting.

edit: which reminds me, has GRRM ever talked about whether or not Book!Varys still has a dick? We know the show version doesn't but that doesn't mean much.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:15 AM
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The books don't even talk about Theon's dick.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:26 AM
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The books don't even talk about Theon's dick.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:33 AM
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I'm pretty sure I saw an interview where Ramsay's actor said he hates that meme.
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:04 PM
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My money is on "he's a Targaryan". Kingsblood has power in this setting.
Yes, it is expected, and nicely explained by the Blackfyre theory. But how are the TV people going to tie it up to their setting, where Daenerys is the last Targaryen?
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:11 PM
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But how are the TV people going to tie it up to their setting, where Daenerys is the last Targaryen?
Do they need to?

Without a

he's useless for any claim and he knows it. Dany's the only brown water shitting Targaryan that matters.
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:15 PM
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Do they need to?

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he's useless for any claim and he knows it. Dany's the only brown water shitting Targaryan that matters.
Yes, but the question is, what is a Targaryen doing under an undercover identity in the Free Cities AND in King's Landing? After all, in both the books and the TV, Varys wasn't paraded as "Lord Varys Targaryen" at Aerys II's court, which gives credence to Blackfyre and other "branch Targaryen" theories.
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:19 PM
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Free Cities? Isn't Varys de...-in hiding?
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:24 PM
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He's in Meereen on the show, helping Tyrion with ruling.
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure I saw an interview where Ramsay's actor said he hates that meme.
Jokes on him. His whole character is a walking meme now.
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:38 PM
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Free Cities? Isn't Varys de...-in hiding?
Well, his identity was A Guy From Free Cities. Lysene, I think?
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Old 06-21-2015, 01:48 PM
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What's this about Varys Targaryen? Have I walked in on a tinfoil party?

Reminds me that one of my friends is convinced the show makers are going to give Aegon Targaryen's role to Daario in the show.

He cited the Stormcrows being hired by Stannis as proof.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:00 PM
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What's this about Varys Targaryen? Have I walked in on a tinfoil party?
Varys's balls sacrificed for the king's blood + Varys's dubious reasons for supporting Aegon = Varys is somehow Targ-related

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Reminds me that one of my friends is convinced the show makers are going to give Aegon Targaryen's role to Daario in the show.

He cited the Stormcrows being hired by Stannis as proof.
How the hell does that work?
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:01 PM
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It's just a theory but I don't think blood needs to be royal or important for it to actually work some red god devily, IIRC Melisandre is the only red priest that we know of that beats on that drum.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:09 PM
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It's just a theory but I don't think blood needs to be royal or important for it to actually work some red god devily, IIRC Melisandre is the only red priest that we know of that beats on that drum.
And that's probably just a ruse by her as well.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:20 PM
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It's just a theory but I don't think blood needs to be royal or important for it to actually work some red god devily, IIRC Melisandre is the only red priest that we know of that beats on that drum.
If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't a Red Priest that sacrificed Varys's blood. So it may not be about the Red Faith rules, but with generic rules on blood magic in the setting.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:23 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't a Red Priest that sacrificed Varys's blood. So it may not be about the Red Faith rules, but with generic rules on blood magic in the setting.
Aye! It wouldn't surprise me if it's the same magic going on tbh.

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Maybe, Melisandre does seem to genuinely believe in what she's doing but she's a little sneaky and underhanded... the robes full of powder metals and the like spring to mind.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:32 PM
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Melisandre does believes Stannis is Azor Ahai reborn. Read her POV chapter.
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:45 PM
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Yes, it is expected, and nicely explained by the Blackfyre theory. But how are the TV people going to tie it up to their setting, where Daenerys is the last Targaryen?
The thing about themes like "the last x" is that you can only view that from what's "publicly known".
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:49 PM
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The fat witch used blood from a horse to "save" Khal Drogo. Does that mean the horse was secret Targaryen as well
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Old 06-22-2015, 01:59 AM
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The fat witch used blood from a horse to "save" Khal Drogo. Does that mean the horse was secret Targaryen as well
She also somehow sacrificed Dany's unborn child who was Targaryen, for obvious reasons.
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Old 06-22-2015, 04:13 AM
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The fat witch used blood from a horse to "save" Khal Drogo. Does that mean the horse was secret Targaryen as well
The horse was one Euron stole, who sold it to Drogo knowing that he would gift it to Dany. Thus, being used as a sacrifice and having her lose the child would mean Daario would be free to marry Dany when Drogo died.

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