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Old 05-14-2011, 11:27 AM
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Keep all your belly-aching in this thread. Seriously.


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Old 05-14-2011, 11:33 AM
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Two Gnomes (depending on how you count chromie), a Dwarf, and two humans, versus Mankrik and Darnell up at Sethria's roost?

CLEAR FACTION BIAS!

I DEMAND EQUAL LOWBIE NPCS ELEVATED TO HERO-NESS!
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:39 AM
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:-( I want to do a UNFAIR joke post using ravenholdt npcs but I'm at work and my iPhone isn't the best tool for hyperlink web-Fu.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:11 PM
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To be fair, I don't think it's so unreasonable that Alliance players have some concerns in Cataclysm.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:28 PM
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I seriously doubt that this will end well.

That said, Blizzard loves dumping on the orcs. They lost their society, they lost their skin color, they lost the trust of their ancestors, they lost most of their population and outliers, they lost their planet, they lost their wars, they lost their importance to the Draenei, they lost their freedom, and most of all, they lost their original artwork.

They're there to be everyone's butt piggy. The same goes for the trolls, but they really don't have much of an animal analog like the orcs do.

So I am now engaged in writing a letter to Chris Metzen asking him not to absolve his company's sins against the collective race, but rather to acknowledge them and work towards a better future for the orcs.

As well as suing Blizzard on behalf of the orcs for one hundred billion dollars.

Now then, important news is important.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:36 PM
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To be fair, I don't think it's so unreasonable that Alliance players have some concerns in Cataclysm.
I don't disagree. But I do think some members of this forum have a hard time distinguishing between reasonable concerns and unreasonable wailing.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:41 PM
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To be fair, I don't think it's so unreasonable that Alliance players have some concerns in Cataclysm.
It's fine for them to have concerns, but so much garbage gets blown out of proportion and never -dropped-

Seriously, this latest thing for Thassarian for example


No one's talking about the awesome dungeon encounter lore, or the implications of some of the wording in there, no one's talking about what happened to Koltira, the Alliance is just bitching because they THINK a character arc was dropped and they have no idea what's going on yet.

Honestly this is one of the times we need a blue in that forum to go "Everything is fine, there is a method to our madness, put down your torch and pitchforks"
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Old 05-14-2011, 01:41 PM
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Considering that the stuff is still being datamined, doesn't mean that we have seen the end all be all when it comes to Thassarian and Koltira.

I've always presumed that whatever things Blizz has planned for Sylvanas, and I am sure that they do otherwise they wouldn't be dropping so many damn alussions to that fact, that the fate of Koltira will be explained and I'm leaving it at that. Unless we get to the end of Cata and the loose ends still weren't explained.

Hell, we don't even know enough about the appearance of Thassarian at MH to even say "Yes, Blizz dropped that arc because they hate Alliance". For all we know Thassarian got kidnapped and dumped into MH by Sylvanas. Until we get more information, just sit back and see what happens.

My only concerns have always been about the draenei and worgen lore that seems to be ignored, stagnant and just plain dropped aside when I play Alliance, but then when I play my Horde toons, its goblin and belf lore everywhere. Does it mean that Blizz hates the faction? No.

But that's something that people seem to understand here as well as on the forums in all of the "What happened to the draenei/worgen" threads that constantly pop up.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:26 PM
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Keep all your belly-aching in this thread. Seriously.
To Mods: Sticky Please.

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The influx of official forum posters is creating an influx of faction based whining.

The fact of the matter is, many of us have been on SoL, and fans of the series' lore, before WoW even came out. Hell, a shitload of us don't even play WoW anymore. We look at the lore holistically, lore doesn't belong to either faction.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:51 PM
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The influx of official forum posters is creating an influx of faction based whining.

The fact of the matter is, many of us have been on SoL, and fans of the series' lore, before WoW even came out. Hell, a shitload of us don't even play WoW anymore. We look at the lore holistically, lore doesn't belong to either faction.
This sticky is a necessary prophylactic for just those reasons. I expect we will see certain posters exclusively in this thread from now on, since some people literally contribute nothing but faction whining.
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The influx of official forum posters is creating an influx of faction based whining.

The fact of the matter is, many of us have been on SoL, and fans of the series' lore, before WoW even came out. Hell, a shitload of us don't even play WoW anymore. We look at the lore holistically, lore doesn't belong to either faction.
What he said^^





This thread is just the beginning of an endless flamewar.....
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Old 05-14-2011, 03:48 PM
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This thread is just the beginning of an endless flamewar.....
But that's what the people want, and what the people want is what i do.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:54 PM
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It really doesn't make sense as to why Thassarian is in Hyjal or the fire lands, he should be in Lordaeron doing what ever he should be doing.

But people crying foul over it just dumb.

My only complaint is Darknell yelling "For Lordaeron" though I guess they are just trying to make the Forsaken hypocrisy stand out even more. But he is a joke character so I shouldn't really take it seriously.
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Old 05-14-2011, 03:02 PM
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Has anyone actually thought that he might be going there to ask fro future help from the Druids to heal the land in Eastern and Western Plaguelands i mean come on....

Those that moan to me due to there favourite faction not getting what they wanted are missing out in my eyes to the entire Lore because we all have our favourites no matter what but to soley enjoy them wouldnt be to enjoy Warcraft Lore as a whole.

And hating it because of your faction "missing" out is absolutely stupid.
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The problem is if you want this thread to be the dedicated thread to perceived faction imbalance, you're never going to get people that believe it's an issue to post here because of the condescending title.
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Old 05-14-2011, 04:04 PM
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My only complaint is Darknell yelling "For Lordaeron" though I guess they are just trying to make the Forsaken hypocrisy stand out even more. But he is a joke character so I shouldn't really take it seriously.
I think him yelling "For Lordaeron!" is pretty funny, considering all the whining the Alliance fanboys have been doing over that. It's almost like they're doing an in-game "Fuck you!" to them. And I play Alliance, so yeah...

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Has anyone actually thought that he might be going there to ask fro future help from the Druids to heal the land in Eastern and Western Plaguelands i mean come on....
But there are already druids healing the Plaguelands...
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:34 AM
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Keep all your belly-aching in this thread. Seriously.
Funny that you post this after you decide to faction change to Horde.

I'll belly-ache wherever I goddamned please about how Blizzard favors your bitchy emo ilk.
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Old 05-15-2011, 08:01 AM
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It's fine if you want a thread to it, but if you keep bringing it up, take it here. And certainly think about what is posted, or wait and see what it entails, before rushing headlong into complaints.
Why in the world should I take this condescending thread seriously?

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Or it could be to emphasize a part of the storyline they want to.

Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe, Blizzard has a direction for the Forsaken storyline that isn't what you imagine it to be?
Gameplay mechanics limit what they can do with the Forsaken. I doubt that a character as popular as Sylvanas will receive any comeuppance, and I doubt that Blizzard is going to let the Alliance have Hillsbrad or Andorhal back.

My money is on something happening to make Sylvanas and the Horde at large "super sowwy," some neutral faction will declare them "redeemed" with no say from the Alliance (or the Forsaken will make like the Orcs and decide that they've been redeemed with no input from their victims) and they'll have a bunch of cleanly conquered territory with a wiped clean moral slate in the end.

That's what I think is going to happen. Oh, and Sylvanas will keep on talking about how the Forsaken are a bunch of poor Scourge victims despite their actions.

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Why in the world should I take this condescending thread seriously?
I can't even blame you.
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:43 AM
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Hopefully if the raging fanboys dont take this thread seriously then mods (Im looking at you Omacron and Cantus) will just start moving their posts here until the fanboys reach the point where they can make a reply that does not amount to Blizzard Hates My Faction! Oh No! Not Fair Waaaaaaah!.

Seriously, if you contribute nothing more than that to this forum then this thread is where you belong.
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Hopefully if the raging fanboys dont take this thread seriously then mods (Im looking at you Omacron and Cantus) will just start moving their posts here until the fanboys reach the point where they can make a reply that does not amount to Blizzard Hates My Faction! Oh No! Not Fair Waaaaaaah!.

Seriously, if you contribute nothing more than that to this forum then this thread is where you belong.
That's great, but what thread are we going to direct all the pretentious stuck-ups who hate on other fans to?
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:50 AM
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That's great, but what thread are we going to direct all the pretentious stuck-ups who hate on other fans to?
You direct them to "Scrolls of Lore." That's practically this board's mission statement.

If you want to coddle those turning every thread into faction bashing, go ahead. Dont expect everyone else to do the same. This thread got stickied for a reason.
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