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Old 01-29-2014, 08:53 AM
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:54 AM
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By 40k standards Sargeras is the equivalent of a Daemon Prince.
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:57 AM
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By 40k standards Sargeras is the equivalent of a Daemon Prince.
Khorne appreciates Sargy's efforts, but it's not nearly enough.

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Old 01-29-2014, 09:00 AM
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You forget: These are warcraft III hero units, a non-playable race that is not high elves and two other guys who have equipment that doesn't fit with any playable class. These boys ain't PCs.
I want you to stand up and take three steps back from your computer, realize that you are methodologically dissecting an obvious joke with the zeal of an autistic nerd, ponder what has become of your life. Take five, take ten! Step away for a while
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:04 AM
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Don't take away my dreams of a 40k army invading Azeroth! The slaughter would be glorious.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:12 AM
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I want you to stand up and take three steps back from your computer, realize that you are methodologically dissecting an obvious joke with the zeal of an autistic nerd, ponder what has become of your life. Take five, take ten! Step away for a while
Don't worry, I did that before posting already.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:23 AM
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:58 AM
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Thanks!
Best spell there is.

And you're welcome.


Anyhow, this is a proper blood elf. Graceful and with arcane tattoos up the wazoo.



It's from the same artist who did Disney princesses as Warcraft races, there is also a nelf Pocahontas now, I didn't like it that much but I thought you might want to know.
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:27 AM
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Best spell there is.

And you're welcome.


Anyhow, this is a proper blood elf. Graceful and with fel tattoos up the wazoo.



It's from the same artist who did Disney princesses as Warcraft races, there is also a nelf Pocahontas now, I didn't like it that much but I thought you might want to know.
Fixed. Arcane doesn't go in that colour .
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Fixed. Arcane doesn't go in that colour .
Arcane can be any color it wants to be, it's magic

Plus, I consider fel a subset of arcane magic.

Either way, arcane tattoos
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:50 AM
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Plus, I consider fel a subset of arcane magic.
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:02 PM
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Fel is to arcane as shadow is to light.
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:52 PM
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Fel is to arcane as shadow is to light.
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:03 PM
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:09 PM
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You're all wrong. fel is to arcane as radioactive isotopes are to ordinary matter.
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Fel has little to nothing to do with actual arcane magic, beyond both being sources of magical power. Arcane magic is the art of drawing on and manipulating the energies from ley lines. Fel energy does not stem from ley lines, but is instead inherit to the bodies of demons (much like the light is inherit to naaru bodies). This difference is the reason why a mage, or even a warlock, can't randomly decide to go throw green fireballs; we simply don't have the neccesary energies in our bodies. To get the energy, we must have demons to give their power freely (the old horde), drain it by force (illidari blood elves) or scavenge energies they left behind (cataclysm ashenvale, warlock green fire quest).

Why fel magic and arcane magic are so frequently thrown together is that, while different sources, they are compatible with one another, and can be used to fuel the same magics.

Or at least, that's how it was in the RPG. Considering how much sense it makes and how they've been fairly consistent with it (to a surprising degree, actually, considering how much every single other aspect of magic has changed.), I'm inclined to think it's still canon.
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:46 PM
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Fel has little to nothing to do with actual arcane magic, beyond both being sources of magical power. Arcane magic is the art of drawing on and manipulating the energies from ley lines. Fel energy does not stem from ley lines, but is instead inherit to the bodies of demons (much like the light is inherit to naaru bodies). This difference is the reason why a mage, or even a warlock, can't randomly decide to go throw green fireballs; we simply don't have the neccesary energies in our bodies. To get the energy, we must have demons to give their power freely (the old horde), drain it by force (illidari blood elves) or scavenge energies they left behind (cataclysm ashenvale, warlock green fire quest).

Why fel magic and arcane magic are so frequently thrown together is that, while different sources, they are compatible with one another, and can be used to fuel the same magics.

Or at least, that's how it was in the RPG. Considering how much sense it makes and how they've been fairly consistent with it (to a surprising degree, actually, considering how much every single other aspect of magic has changed.), I'm inclined to think it's still canon.
I'm not saying fel draws on the same power as Arcane, more like Fel magic would be the anti-magic to Arcane. Or like Shadow/Void magic being the anti-magic to Light. I don't think Light and Shadow draw on the same source.
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I'm not saying fel draws on the same power as Arcane, more like Fel magic would be the anti-magic to Arcane. Or like Shadow/Void magic being the anti-magic to Light. I don't think Light and Shadow draw on the same source.
Light and Void don't draw upon the same source, but their sources are related, acting as opposites of one another in the cosmic scheme. The same does not appear to be true for arcane and fel magic, whose sources don't appear to have any relation with each other whatsoever.
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:50 PM
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Light and Void don't draw upon the same source, but their sources are related, acting as opposites of one another in the cosmic scheme. The same does not appear to be true for arcane and fel magic, whose sources don't appear to have any relation with each other whatsoever.
Other than the need or desire of Fel-Based life forms for Arcane magic? Wasn't it the Well of Eternity that attracted Sargeras to Azeroth initially?
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:55 PM
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Other than the need or desire of Fel-Based life forms for Arcane magic? Wasn't it the Well of Eternity that attracted Sargeras to Azeroth initially?
Indeed. As I said, the magic sources are compatible. Arcane magic is just as desirable to a demon as it would be to a human mage because of this.

Also, you'll notice that void creatures are very much not attracted to the light, so the claimed similarity doesn't really work in that regard.
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Indeed. As I said, the magic sources are compatible. Arcane magic is just as desirable to a demon as it would be to a human mage because of this.

Also, you'll notice that void creatures are very much not attracted to the light, so the claimed similarity doesn't really work in that regard.
Maybe not attracted to the light.. but, I'm reminded of the Ashbringer shard and its ability to absorb the Light magic that was cast upon it until it went from a shard of void to a shard of light.
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Maybe not attracted to the light.. but, I'm reminded of the Ashbringer shard and its ability to absorb the Light magic that was cast upon it until it went from a shard of void to a shard of light.
And that's not really similar to the way arcane and fel magic interact. Light and void are in a duality, one replacing the other. The holy energies weren't just added to the orb, they changed the nature of the energies already within the orb.

With arcane and fel, this is not the case. They fuel one another and mix. Light and dark are a switch, arcane and fel inter-mixable fluids.
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:13 PM
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What I meant is that if arcane were water liquid would be called water too.
(Not the best metaphorical explanation... Anyways, lava would be water too, but not water.)

There's the energy, arcane, and the type of magic called arcane whose energy sources are addictive, like fel and arcane.

So when I say that fel is a subset of arcane magic, I'm talking about one of the two major schools of magic, arcane and divine. Not about one of it's subdivisions or the energy.

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