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![]() Only because you don't believe in it. You need to believe in Science to see Science! |
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![]() To be honest, cata also made me wish magic was toned down a bit and diversified. MoP did a pretty damn good job at that though. Actually, now that I think about it, MoP did a pretty good job at toning down and/or diversifying technology as well.
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![]() Oh my little tauren rogue, my tauren rogue. Why you gotta go and ruin my immersion!? Ooh you make my nerdrage run, my nerdrage run. Make me whine about my immersion! Never gonna stop, give it up. Such a fanboy mind. Always get it up for the spam of the younger kind. My My My o vi moo M M M Myyyyy Immersion
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![]() I've found an increase in tech levels in regards to warfare in the Warcraft setting doesn't bother me too much; airships, submarines, steam tanks, machine guns, bombs, etc.
But when the technology is smaller, more modern type devices with major applications outside of warfare, such as radios, cameras, etc. that's when it kind of bothers me. http://www.wowhead.com/quest=2944 But Archimedes nails it: Quote:
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![]() A lot of that is because WoW is a game designed to be fun to play that happens to have a story, rather than a game that is fun to play that also tells a story.
It's a subtle difference, but makes a huge difference to the coherence of the story. |
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![]() If WoW were set to real life dating standards, with the dawn of recorded civilization at around 4000 BCE matching up to the Sundering (which is a gross underestimate to the beginning of WoW civilization, mind) 10,000 years before the present events in-game, the setting takes place in the year 6000 ACE.
This whole conversation is silly. Warcraft has always had high levels of tech alongside the swords and spells. Especially since magic is the surrogate for technology in fantasy. If nothing else, it's just technological magic - like using elemental fire as a power source. Really, you can suspend disbelief for a magical crystal that lets you communicate across the astral planes, but if it comes in the form of a radio box, oh lordy no my immersion? If nothing nothing else, Titans did it. Some gnome found a camera on an earthen tourist's corpse and reverse engineered it. There. |
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![]() Warcraft's looseness (dunno if that's the exact word I'm looking for) with technology was one of the things that originally attracted me to the game. It wasn't just "swords and magic" or just "guns and ultra high-tech gadgets", it's a mix of both. I always liked the fact that some races relied heavily on high-tech weaponry and others relied on more traditional tools of war.
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Not to mention that you can tell easily within Warcraft just who's tech is who's because of how distinct they all are. |
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![]() The problem is nobody relies on technology. Despite the obvious advantages.
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Also, both can be seen equally hard to use for your average joe in WoW. For example, imagine a peasant holding a newest gnome assault laser rifle. Poor fella more likely shoot himself not knowing where to aim. He might see a magic scroll that tells you how to cast a fireball, but wait, he can't read. So I would argue that they are both pretty much equal and when something required to be blown up, they both can do a splendid job. Blizzard might not even explain in, since I don't personally see a big problem. It's almost like saying Blizz doesn't care about Alliance caring for Lordareon. They just haven't gotten around to doing it and exploring the subject. P.S. YES! Managed to sneak in Lordareon into the magic vs tech! Although kind of beaten to it.
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![]() I'm pretty sure Gnomes do.
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![]() Symptomatic. We don't see Gnomes doing anything, ever.
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![]() Goblins, and orcs more and more.
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![]() Forsaken and Dwarves both have some pretty heavy tech usage, as well.
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![]() I'd like to see every race, not just the same few, adapt (or at least adopt) some of these technologies we've been seeing since WC2 to suit their needs and according to their respective aesthetics.
At least acknowledge that technology's made leaps and bounds and that there's some stuff there which could be of use to everyone. |
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![]() The PTR just went down. New build incoming.
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![]() By all what is Holy! Finally!
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Might just be another case of Garrosh being an asshat. It's not just Trolls and Tauren though. When was the last time you say the Night Elves using anything higher tech than a glaive thrower? They've still got trees throwing rocks, for crying out loud. Even the Gilneans seem to have "dumbed down" their use of technology once the starting zone's are over with (If I'm missing something here, let me know, I'm not intimately familiar with the Worgen's every appearance.). |
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![]() And the night elves are starting to use cannons and rifles, according to Stonetalon.
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![]() Oh, didn't know that. :o
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![]() I would love to see primitive/tribal aesthetics applied to advanced technology.
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