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Old 11-09-2013, 04:37 PM
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It's not a retcon because it's an adaptation. The movie won't be canon.
Then it sucks even more. Why can't they make it canon? Why can't we have an official lore movie? :/
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:40 PM
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Then it sucks even more. Why can't they make it canon? Why can't we have an official lore movie? :/
Official and canon are not the same thing. It's still going to be official and likely very good.

HED's Marvel comparisons are the best way to look at it.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:42 PM
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With all the books and extra lore they released? Nope, W1+W2+W2X is probably the best option for a trilogy. They're perfect, with lot of connections and a solid plot.
Obviously I disagree.

I think a totally new development would be best, but that might not work out so well commercially. So a historic event we've never seen would be a close second imo, like the Troll Wars or War of the Three Hammers, First War of Ahn'Quiraj... that kind of stuff.


But if going for a trilogy? I'd take the following:

Movie1: Arthas' story (Human+UD campaigns)
Movie2: Thrall's and Jaina's story with some elves (Orc+Early Night campaigns)
Movie3: Culmination at Mount Hyjal (rest of the NE campaign)

The campaigns wouldn't be followed strictly, we'd avoid the more game mechanicky moments and insert previously unseen events (Jaina's journey, for example).

Perfect.


@Sonne, eh, I'll see what you think when the movie is actually out.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:48 PM
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Those movies would be way more complicated plot-wise. For fans they would be fine, but a movie should be easy to understand to even non-fans, and I don't think anyone would understand any piece of Wacraft lore easily, except the first and second wars which are pretty simple and straightforwards.

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I'll send your infantile first line back to you. Listen to what Metzen said. Durotan represents what Metzen considers the ideal orc, honourable, concenred with family and clan, yet without losing his orcish savagery. His counterpart in Metzen's eyes is Lothar.
I'll also remind you to read Rise of the Horde as from your post I can see that you've never read it.
What if Metzen is wrong? Durotar is an exile. How can he be "the ideal orc"? He is the ideal orc during W3 when orc society is back to pre-corruption, not before, when orc ideals are all about war and Durotan is a weakling who got exiled to Azeroth after the Dark Portal was opened. But well, if you prefer to see an exile wandering around instead of the orc chieftains commanding the war, I guess you'll be fine.

And what does Rise of the Horde have to do with this, or are you just trying to invalidate my arguments through such a shitty excuse as "lol you don't read"? I'm behind pretty much all the novel pages on wowpedia. I do think I've read RotH, thank you.

During the First War orcs are demonic and somewhat evil. Shoehorning Durotan to make them look honorable is utterly shameless.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:49 PM
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What if Metzen is wrong? Durotar is an exile. How can he be "the ideal orc"? He is the ideal orc during W3 when orc society is back to pre-corruption, not before, when orc ideals are all about war and Durotan is a weakling who got exiled to Azeroth after the Dark Portal was opened. But well, if you prefer to see an exile wandering around instead of the orc chieftains commanding the war, I guess you'll be fine.

And what does Rise of the Horde have to do with this, or are you just trying to invalidate my arguments through such a shitty excuse as "lol you don't read"? I'm behind pretty much all the novel pages on wowpedia. I do think I've read RotH, thank you.

During the First War orcs are demonic and somewhat evil. Shoehorning Durotan to make them look honorable is utterly shameless.
Metzen isn't viewing the orcs in compartmentalized eras. He views orcs as a thing, and that the orcs of the First War era were deviations from the ideal, not a different ideal altogether.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:53 PM
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Metzen isn't viewing the orcs in compartmentalized eras. He views orcs as a thing, and that the orcs of the First War era were deviations from the ideal, not a different ideal altogether.
Thanks, someone that gets it.
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:30 PM
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Metzen isn't viewing the orcs in compartmentalized eras. He views orcs as a thing, and that the orcs of the First War era were deviations from the ideal, not a different ideal altogether.
This. Durotan is what remains of the original orcish culture during W1.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:26 PM
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In the midst of the hype I feel obligated to remind you all that the movie is still going to be shit.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:29 PM
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I'm overly excited for this film. As I watched the panels I got progressively excited by knowing all the detail and care going on behind scenes, but I remained worried about the plot.

When they dropped the ball about Durotan and Lothar I realized this film will be the next Iron Man, but for fantasy. It will start a series of movies and a massive hype for the genre.

I'm 100% sure they'll do an excellent job and the story will be superb. There's no other way to start telling a Warcraft story than the beggining.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:13 PM
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Yay First War movie!
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:13 PM
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I'm overly excited for this film. As I watched the panels I got progressively excited by knowing all the detail and care going on behind scenes, but I remained worried about the plot.

When they dropped the ball about Durotan and Lothar I realized this film will be the next Iron Man, but for fantasy. It will start a series of movies and a massive hype for the genre.

I'm 100% sure they'll do an excellent job and the story will be superb. There's no other way to start telling a Warcraft story than the beggining.
Sounds like a lot of confidence.

I'm still a little on the skeptical side, but it looks promising to say the least. Durotan and Lothar are characters that I really like.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:19 PM
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Like what I heard. Can't wait to hear more. Still not going to say it will be awesome, but its encouraging.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:21 PM
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Sounds like a lot of confidence.

I'm still a little on the skeptical side, but it looks promising to say the least. Durotan and Lothar are characters that I really like.
I know it really sounds like a little bit too much on my side, but I can really see where this is going on the choices they've made. Every single thing discussed today at the panel is positive for the movie, in my opinion.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:41 PM
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In the midst of the hype I feel obligated to remind you all that the movie is still going to be shit.
Even if it is, it'll at least be pretty-looking shit.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:54 PM
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I'm almost absolutely certain they're going to tweak the release date a little.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:28 PM
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You know me and my love for Lothar, so I was so glad to hear that. That being said, they did also show pictures of a floating Dalaran at the con, which is squarely in the WoW era, so the plot may jump around a bit.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:36 PM
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You know me and my love for Lothar, so I was so glad to hear that. That being said, they did also show pictures of a floating Dalaran at the con, which is squarely in the WoW era, so the plot may jump around a bit.
I'm thinking that will be from a montage in the beginning introducing Azeroth

Or just scrapped entirely like the old Teldrassil concept from a few years ago.
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And on that note, SoL is a forum I no longer enjoy. So, I'm done here. And I genuinely think the people who have absolutely nothing at all positive to say about the game and, the people whose posts are composed entirely of whining, really consider leaving (or at least sticking to non-WoW sections). Because if you truly get no enjoyment out of WoW, then why are you here?

With that said, goodbye.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:37 PM
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They probably just retconned Dalaran as always being in the air.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:41 PM
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Yeah, I'm guessing that for the purposes of the film Dalaran will be floating at the time of the First War.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:48 PM
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That works too. We did just get done talking about how adaptations don't need to be 100% accurate, I guess.
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And on that note, SoL is a forum I no longer enjoy. So, I'm done here. And I genuinely think the people who have absolutely nothing at all positive to say about the game and, the people whose posts are composed entirely of whining, really consider leaving (or at least sticking to non-WoW sections). Because if you truly get no enjoyment out of WoW, then why are you here?

With that said, goodbye.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:49 PM
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That works too. We did just get done talking about how adaptations don't need to be 100% accurate, I guess.
Unless you're Anansi.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:52 PM
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This is assuming Dalaran is in the movie.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:58 PM
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This is assuming Dalaran is in the movie.
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And on that note, SoL is a forum I no longer enjoy. So, I'm done here. And I genuinely think the people who have absolutely nothing at all positive to say about the game and, the people whose posts are composed entirely of whining, really consider leaving (or at least sticking to non-WoW sections). Because if you truly get no enjoyment out of WoW, then why are you here?

With that said, goodbye.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:17 AM
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That Stormwind concept art looks nice but it has a serious problem in that it makes Stormwind look tiny.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:30 AM
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That Dalaran art is so pretty.
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