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Old 08-24-2017, 06:22 AM
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There's a trinket from the raid that mentions the planet Tarratus. Seems interesting. It's a prison world where the Burning Legion keeps rebellious demons.
Huh, interesting. Greek mythology reference, I assume?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarus
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:00 AM
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Do we know how Velen's draenei became separated from the rest of the eredar refugees who became the Army of the Light?
No.

My theory is that the Xenedar and other vessels may have been following the Legion's advances, helping any draenei (and other races) that have been unable to escape a world that has been attacked. In the case of the draenei, they were the ones unable to reach the Genedar in time to escape in the many times the Legion came after Velen and the draenei.

That's how I explain Turalyon and Alleria being with the Army of the Light. The xenedar may have come to Outland during Magtheridon's reign and helped evacuate some of those that were fighting the demonic forces at the time.

Maybe that explains how Velen knows the Xenedar as well. He may have heard about it from the naaru.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:09 AM
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So does the term "Draenei" apply to any Eredar who remained free of the Legion or does it only apply to Velen's faction?
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:12 AM
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So was that e-sports shit the "big thing" or is there some other big reveal they haven't announced yet?
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:27 AM
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Do we know how Velen's draenei became separated from the rest of the eredar refugees who became the Army of the Light?
I'd been working under the assumption the army started as those draenei left behind in T'uure's artifact lore.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:55 PM
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Velens wife is called Nuuri.
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Old 08-24-2017, 04:46 PM
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But @Deicide, why would the Xenedar leave so many draenei on Outland?
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Old 08-24-2017, 05:06 PM
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But @Deicide, why would the Xenedar leave so many draenei on Outland?
Dunno. Maybe it came searching for the Draenei but they were hiding. They followed signs of battle, found Turalyon and Alleria needing help/disabled and took them away. Maybe it was attacked and couldn't stay for too long.
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Old 08-24-2017, 05:15 PM
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We know the AotL came to Outland at some point, since the lightforged elekk mount description says they learned about elekks from Alleria and Turalyon.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:47 PM
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In the Path to Argus video, Turalyon yells "You doomed us all!" right before engaging someone in combat. Who do you think it is? Does Illidan betrays us again?
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:49 PM
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In the Path to Argus video, Turalyon yells "You doomed us all!" right before engaging someone in combat. Who do you think it is? Does Illidan betrays us again?
My money is on Illidan, but I would love for it to be Xe'ra (spoiler: it won't be).
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:16 PM
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In the Path to Argus video, Turalyon yells "You doomed us all!" right before engaging someone in combat. Who do you think it is? Does Illidan betrays us again?
Illidan doesn't fuse with Xe'ra or something. So it dies and then Turalyon is sad.
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:24 PM
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In the Path to Argus video, Turalyon yells "You doomed us all!" right before engaging someone in combat. Who do you think it is? Does Illidan betrays us again?
Illidan kills Xe'ra instead of letting her turn him into an angel and Turalyon freaks out.
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Old 08-25-2017, 12:38 AM
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Illidan doesn't fuse with Xe'ra or something. So it dies and then Turalyon is sad.
ImO X'era's vision thought she would be the one to infuse Illidan but she read her prophecies wrong. Illidan will be light infused but not by Her. Probably by Elune or something greater.
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Old 08-25-2017, 02:14 AM
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Xera Forced herself onto illidan accordinbg to the people there.

They talk about the stuff before it happens

Also please tell me you understand that the cinematic where Illidan uses eye beam is against Xe'ra, He destroys her.

Using fel energy. which is the eye beam.

Which leads to this pic of clint eastwod.



also blizzcon is placed very badly as a week or 2 after 7.3.5 releases probably and that means people get to see the cinematic stuff then which means lots of questions that might get arisen because of end cinematic well... Kinda flops.

Coz you cant ask them.

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Old 08-25-2017, 05:39 AM
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also blizzcon is placed very badly as a week or 2 after 7.3.5 releases probably and that means people get to see the cinematic stuff then which means lots of questions that might get arisen because of end cinematic well... Kinda flops.

Coz you cant ask them.
If I'm not mistaken, if Blizzard keeps the 77 days between patches routine, 7.3.5 will come out one week after Blizzcon.
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:40 AM
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Hm, why old Zandalari and new KulTiras files
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Old 08-25-2017, 06:22 AM
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they are toying with people
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Old 08-25-2017, 07:01 AM
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they are toying with people
I wouldn't put it past them.

I'm sure removing the KT stuff is because they weren't meant to be in this patch, removing the Zandalari stuff is probably screwing with us; there's no reason to unless they're removing Throne of Thunder, which I can't see them doing.
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Old 08-25-2017, 07:08 AM
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We know the AotL came to Outland at some point, since the lightforged elekk mount description says they learned about elekks from Alleria and Turalyon.
They learned about their "usefulness", not about elekk. The war has been going for 1000 years, so they don't necessarily have to come from Draenor. Could be elekks from previous draenei that escaped. There's another mount description that says that the naaru took some flora and fauna with them from Argus.

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Old 08-25-2017, 07:12 AM
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They learned about their "usefulness", not about elekk. The war has been going for 1000 years, so they don't necessarily have to come from Draenor. Could be elekks from previous draenei that escaped. There's another mount description that says that the Army of the Light took some flora and fauna with them from Argus.
Elekk are native to Draenor. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...5797?page=2#40

If they were from Argus the AoL wouldn't need to be told how useful they are, they'd know because they'd know what they are.
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Old 08-25-2017, 07:24 AM
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Elekk are native to Draenor. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...5797?page=2#40

If they were from Argus the AoL wouldn't need to be told how useful they are, they'd know because they'd know what they are.
Ornyx does say "in current lore" and "as far as I can tell". Because on PTR Rakeesh has an elekk plushie. Likely just a designer who put that doodad there by mistake, but it's still to be taken into account for now.
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:05 AM
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:16 AM
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Yeah that trailer stinks.
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:56 AM
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The boner you people have for TFT is almost as large as Grackle's boner for WC2. That's not a good thing.
I'm a huge fan of WC3/TFT, and I repeatedly said it's one of the best games I ever played. However, retconning everything after it is no way to go forward. We can't keep going back. That's how you get the faction war shit that polluted WoW since its inception.

Go forward. Keep in mind the things that developed since then. The Chronicles are the best thing to happen to WoW lore since Warcraft III and no surprise, they are already contradicting them. Because we can't have good things.
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