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11-04-2017, 08:14 PM
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11-04-2017, 08:20 PM
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@Whitrix, that implies the devs care about the night elven story. They clearly do not - if it does not benefit or advance the Horde's interest either overtly or covertly, they don't really include it in the game.
Blizzard doesn't give the same quality of writing to the Alliance that they do the Horde. The same level of attention and detail and what have you. That much has been apparent to me since I started this....moronic crusade seven years ago. JFC seven years I've wasted arguing on the internet about imaginary video game factions
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11-04-2017, 08:24 PM
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The zandalari still loyal to King Rastakhan will be joining the horde and they will be fightings these other trolls. Edit: Subraces faction gain. I really like the zandalar joining and that being a way to finally increase horde numbers more logically. I just disagree with Nightbourne and Highmountain. I think the argument someone gave how it's a bit fucked up for alliance players to see them now join the horde as well. Maybe blizzard does it right and not have Nightbourne and Highmountain be part of the horde in a sense of war commitment but more like tradepartners and adventurers joining. Last edited by taelon; 11-04-2017 at 08:29 PM..
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11-04-2017, 08:25 PM
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11-04-2017, 08:26 PM
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Lordaeron sure does have a weird placement of troops. Maybe Argentina declared their held territories neutral forcing both factions to go around them? Then again, no reason for either faction to just roflstomp them.
For people bitching about Suramar and Highmountain going Horde, remember that the Alliance gets to reclaim Gilneas and Stromgarde. If I recall in Legion, Dalaran is Alliance but allowed the Horde to stay.
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11-04-2017, 08:27 PM
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Stromgarde: Abandoned with like, ten people left inside. Net loss. Dalaran: Not Alliance, then. Suramar and Highmountain: full populations, magic, dragons, you name it. The favoritism is striking.
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11-04-2017, 08:30 PM
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I think these dark irons were get are the ones who stayed in Shadowforge and weren't yet under Moira's jurisdiction. Thus, the Alliance will get that whole new kingdom for themselves. Plus the Army of Light, who might not be huge in number but are very strong.
Anyway, what if Feathermoon Stronghold becomes the night elf capital? The Forsaken could get Stratholme, which is close to Quel'Thalas. I also think there's a good chance that the Silver Hand joins the Alliance again, and the blood knights and Sunwalkers leave it.
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11-04-2017, 08:32 PM
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Stromgarde has some holdouts outside of the capital city, with the League of Arathor. Stromgarde city itself had fallen to Galen Trollbane's undead. Dalaran is indeed an Alliance member state.
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11-04-2017, 08:34 PM
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11-04-2017, 08:35 PM
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11-04-2017, 08:39 PM
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11-04-2017, 08:42 PM
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The only gain their is the rebuild of Stromgarde. Which is a big thing. (It's a bit hard to see where the humans got the population/military to rebuild it especially after broken shore but horde suffers more from this.) The horde also gained a stronger foothold in Arathi Highland. Which is extremely weird as their are no supply lines for them or anyway to get their. Generally Arathis Highlands is 2/3th alliance and 1/3th Trolls with an outpost of the horde. In Loremaps I believe that their is a huge valley that opens the way from Arathi Highlands to the hinterlands which also made the Trollwars make more sense. But gameplay wise Arathi Highlands is just a beauty for a faction war.
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11-04-2017, 08:43 PM
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Also "unique models", I've read that the Zandalari trolls currently use NE animations, the Nightborne player models sure look more NE-ish to me, and aren't Highmountain tauren literally just Tauren models with some updates? That's sure unique right there. We're both getting "reskinned shit" here, man.
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11-04-2017, 08:47 PM
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11-04-2017, 09:10 PM
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I see the cinematic and my first thoughts as someone that like the Alliance are: Those Footman look awesome. Dwarves are awesome. Anduin's armor is really cool. Anduin's mass res is an awesome callback to the WC3 Paladin. I see this expansion and I'm thinking, holy shit, Kul Tiras is amazing. The Alliance actually attacked the Forsaken and won! Stromgarde was rebuilt! Playable Dark Iron Dwarves is fantastic. You don't have to live your life in perpetual misery.
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11-04-2017, 09:11 PM
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She didn't. She even dislikes not being at the shadows anymore, actually.
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11-04-2017, 09:25 PM
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Also, at the end of MoP, the Alliance reclaimed Gilneas according to Varian. The problem is that Gilneas is basically in the same shape as Southshore and is unlivable. The druids were trying to figure out how make the place inhabitable again. So while the Alliance has Gilneas, it's still a plague hellhole.
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11-04-2017, 09:33 PM
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11-04-2017, 09:44 PM
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So Krakhed was right.
So there is a facility in Nazmir, where the Titans were doing experiments on Old gods. They were trying to solve the Old god problem; and you can imagine when you start experimenting on an Old god, really bad stuff has the potential to happen. What they ended up creating was something far worse; and this sorta new blood god — who you are going to see eventually (and this a huge amount of spoiler for you), but this facility only has one of the three seals remaining on it. More at http://warcraft.blizzplanet.com/blog...battle-azeroth
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11-04-2017, 09:50 PM
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Okay, I'll be going into much more detail in a blizzplanet article when I get home, but basic summary:
-There are new districts in SW and Org. Called Stormwind/Orgrimmar Embassy. -SW embassy is on the farm behind the Cathedral district where Celestine of the Harvest used to be. -Org embassy has replaced the goblin slums. -Both are made entirely of garrison assets except for one new building in SW that looks like a cross between a farmhouse and a barracks (I think its for warfronts). -The main building has a meeting of all faction leaders. -Alliance leaders: Anduin, Turalyon, Alleria, Tyrande (yes she is there), Muradin, Mekkatorque, Genn, Velen, Aysa, and Wrathion (not present in the Org embassy) -Horde leaders: Sylvanas, Baine, Liadrin, Rokhan, Lor'themar, Gallywix, Saurfang, Eitrigg, Nathanos, and Ji Firepaw. -Baine, Nathanos, and Saurfang all have new models. Baine's is amazing, it looks just like the loading screen art.
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11-04-2017, 09:55 PM
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I'm both amused and annoyed that the Night Elves get a district right away but oh no we can't have a Gilnean district in Stormwind, so here's you're fucking smoldering crater for years.
Though as it apparently uses Garrison stuff, it won't look out of place. Still though.
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11-04-2017, 09:56 PM
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Did they move Celestine someplace else?
Kinda weird for them to completely shut out the Gilneans out of a capital city since they no longer even have their tree in Darnassus. Also, any night elf assests in SW? Lastly, what did they move the goblin area someplace else in Org?
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11-04-2017, 09:59 PM
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There's a sliver of the goblin slums left next to it (just the area where Boss Mida is) and the old NPCs are still there outside the main building (unlike in stormwind) not sure if it's intentional there like the mining trainer who is just swinging his pick axe into the air now.
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