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Old 08-07-2015, 11:59 AM
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Warlocks, while intellectually inferior to mages, are smart enough to avoid fel mutation. Demon Hunters aren't.

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Old 08-07-2015, 12:51 PM
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I'm glad we got this sorted out.
It's not like Age of Conan did something similar with Heralds and Demonologists.

What a crazy idea.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:17 AM
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Warlocks should join the Legion! Warlocks fighting against the Legion is like death knights fighting against the Scourge!
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:50 AM
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Demonology should never of become as "Demon Hunter-ish" as it did, in fairness.

It was, and should be, about a Pet-focused Warlock. Give them control of 2 Demons, and access to SEVERAL (not just the Felguard) Demons that the other Warlock specs don't. I really couldn't care less about Metamorphosis; it never should of been a Warlock spell/ability.
I preferred it more when it was a powerful cooldown and not something that we could just shapeshift into willy-nilly, since yeah it did basically shit on the main premise of the spec which was basically 'master of demons' and turned it into more of a stance-dance spec.

I would love to be able to command more demons, I want to actually use my succubus more often.
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Old 08-08-2015, 03:59 AM
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I preferred it more when it was a powerful cooldown and not something that we could just shapeshift into willy-nilly, since yeah it did basically shit on the main premise of the spec which was basically 'master of demons' and turned it into more of a stance-dance spec.

I would love to be able to command more demons, I want to actually use my succubus more often.
I still remember, with utter fondness, the original WoW cinematic (the one with random classes, no named NPCs) - and the striking shot of the Undead Warlock sending 2 Infernals charging head-on towards the camera.

It was awesome.

THAT is what Demonology should be.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:13 AM
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I still remember, with utter fondness, the original WoW cinematic (the one with random classes, no named NPCs) - and the striking shot of the Undead Warlock sending 2 Infernals charging head-on towards the camera.

It was awesome.

THAT is what Demonology should be.
That is indeed awesome, though it's too bad that Infernals are so underwhelming in the actual game. They die like shit to melee cleaves and don't seem to have Avoidance like the other pets do.

What I want Demonic Servitude to allow me to command two demons and... maaaaaaaybe have a third mega-demon that's basically a giantess succubi. You know for... reasons and things like that.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:19 AM
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Remember bugging your Priests and Mages to buff your pet to get more stats out of Demonic Knowledge?
Remember melting faces with Demonic Empowerment on your Felguard when the guy was still a powerhouse and people cried about Intercept?
Remember hard casting different demons in Cata to get the appropriate Demon Soul buff?
Remember being tough as nails thanks to Demonic Resilience and Metamorphosis being a OH SHIT cooldown?
Remember Fel Domination?
Remember fricking Spellstones?
Remember switching between fire and shadow spell schools based on your Molten Core procs?
Remember Demo Locks bringing a bad ass spellpower buff to the raid?
Remember ALL THE PET INTERACTIONS?
Remember when the spec was challenging and interesting?

I do.
And I miss it.
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Old 08-08-2015, 11:32 AM
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Warlocks should join the Legion! Warlocks fighting against the Legion is like death knights fighting against the Scourge!
Warlocks are nobody's bitches. They make the Legion their bitch instead.

Death Knights have always been the Litch King's bitches.
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Old 08-08-2015, 11:34 AM
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Warlocks are nobody's bitches. They make the Legion their bitch instead.

Death Knights have always been the Litch King's bitches.
Now Warlocks are Blizzard's bitches. You can't suffer a higher power than that.
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Old 08-08-2015, 01:51 PM
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That is indeed awesome, though it's too bad that Infernals are so underwhelming in the actual game. They die like shit to melee cleaves and don't seem to have Avoidance like the other pets do.

What I want Demonic Servitude to allow me to command two demons and... maaaaaaaybe have a third mega-demon that's basically a giantess succubi. You know for... reasons and things like that.
I wouldn't mind demonology being able to summon up demons like pit lords and dread lords.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:03 PM
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I wouldn't mind demonology being able to summon up demons like pit lords and dread lords.
Seems a bit much. Cool, sure, but the models for those demons have been consistently large or ridiculously huge. Dreadlords are more likely than pit lords, should it be seriously considered.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:04 PM
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Baby pit lords that look like maggots.
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That is disgustingly adorable. It should be part of Demonology's mechanics where you raise a pit lord from maggot to monster.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:38 PM
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Idk if dreadlords will fit. They seem like ranged, which after allowing terrorguards as pets I'm not sure if they'll ever add more.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:40 PM
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That is disgustingly adorable. It should be part of Demonology's mechanics where you raise a pit lord from maggot to monster.
Progresses from battle pet to companion pet to mount?

Oh crap, pit lords are demonology lock's artifact weapon.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:39 PM
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Warlocks are nobody's bitches. They make the Legion their bitch instead.

Death Knights have always been the Litch King's bitches.
Your arrogance will be your undoing.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:43 PM
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Hey, don't you know who you're talking to? That's Anansi Acnedriver! He's eaten souls for less!
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:45 PM
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:45 PM
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Nazja's a goblin.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:49 PM
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He means Anansi Acnedriver.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:53 PM
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Old 08-08-2015, 05:00 PM
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I'm shipping human woman warlock with human night elf demon huntress.

Also, WTB Diablo demon hunter-esque ranged spec.

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I think he was referring to the Legion's power of "ineffectual stupidity."
The Alliance has already weaponized that long, long ago.
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Old 08-08-2015, 08:56 PM
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Baby pit lords that look like maggots.
It's true, can confirm.
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Old 08-08-2015, 09:00 PM
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Let's not forget that dreadlords and pit lords are heroes, just as much as death knights and demon hunter are.
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Old 08-08-2015, 09:42 PM
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Ion already said that Demonology will be becoming basically the beastmasterish warlock.

So look at beastmaster, add cast times to attacks and remove the ability to collect your minions yourself and you'll probably have something close to what Demonology will be.

That's what annoys me. If they are basically going to rip out the core mechanic that a class has had for 7 years in one form or another at least replace it with something interesting rather than a dull class copy, dependent on crappy pet AI.
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